What's Next ?

Today was worse than dire, not an off day but just write it off completely. According to many on here we were not expected to win, but the size of the defeat and performance leaves me cold.

As posted we now 6 games to make a recovery,

Sat 21 Jan     H     Harrogate Town           
Tue 24 Jan     A     Crawley Town                
Sat 28 Jan     H     Newport County           
Sat 4 Feb     A     Crewe Alexandra                
Sat 11 Feb     H     Colchester United                
Tue 14 Feb     A     Gillingham

Let's hope that Hurst brings in a forward ( or 2 )  to replace McAtee and we need a central defender to replace Smith, whose consistency has deserted him over the last few games.

We should grind out enough points to keep us out of the danger zone and, being an optimist, 16/18 points and we'll be on the verge of the play offs. Our future does not depend on the next 5 weeks but it will certainly define it.     

Harrogate at home.

No.point looking any further than that.

Any one know what Paul Hurst's EFL stats are like ? Apart from that season at Shrewsbury it can't be great ?

We beat Harrogate next week.

Quoted from oochiad

We beat Harrogate next week.

And we will.

We’re still in the Cup!

9 points from the next four games is next.

Quoted from It Bites

Any one know what Paul Hurst's EFL stats are like ? Apart from that season at Shrewsbury it can't be great ?

Well if that’s the case, why not rule out the basket cases of Ipswich, Scunthorpe and towns half season when we went down. You either want the facts or not.

Quoted from It Bites

Any one know what Paul Hurst's EFL stats are like ? Apart from that season at Shrewsbury it can't be great ?

You know Google…?

We are not playing Newport at home on 28th January.

Quoted from It Bites

Any one know what Paul Hurst's EFL stats are like ? Apart from that season at Shrewsbury it can't be great ?

Here you go:

Town MkI: P14 W6 D2 L6 (42.8%)
Shrewsbury: P97 W47 D23 L27 (48.5%)
Ipswich: P15 W1 D7 L7 (6.7%)
Scunthorpe: P38 W12 D10 L16 (31.6%)
Town MkII: P49 W13 D14 L22 (26.5%)
Overall: P213 W79 D56 L78 (37.0%)

On the whole, not bad nor amazing, but generally speaking well below par in the EFL since leaving Shrewsbury.

This of course omits last season’s promotion, which is a significant piece of contest when it comes to attempting to draw patterns from the above stats.

Quoted from Poojah

Here you go:

Town MkI: P14 W6 D2 L6 (42.8%)
Shrewsbury: P97 W47 D23 L27 (48.5%)
Ipswich: P15 W1 D7 L7 (6.7%)
Scunthorpe: P38 W12 D10 L16 (31.6%)
Town MkII: P49 W13 D14 L22 (26.5%)
Overall: P213 W79 D56 L78 (37.0%)

On the whole, not bad nor amazing, but generally speaking well below par in the EFL since leaving Shrewsbury.

This of course omits last season’s promotion, which is a significant piece of contest when it comes to attempting to draw patterns from the above stats.

You'd have to admit that them stats are fairly poor, considering a large chunk was in the conference.... Also though he managed more games than 14 in his first time with us.

Quoted from Corkyefes

You'd have to admit that them stats are fairly poor, considering a large chunk was in the conference.... Also though he managed more games than 14 in his first time with us.

Read it properly. That is Hurst's record in the EFL and excludes his time managing in non-league.

Quoted from Corkyefes

You'd have to admit that them stats are fairly poor, considering a large chunk was in the conference.... Also though he managed more games than 14 in his first time with us.

None of them were in the Conference. That’s just the EFL stats, which was the request. Naturally, if you include his time in non-league, the stats are much better.

Quoted from Poojah

None of them were in the Conference. That’s just the EFL stats, which was the request. Naturally, if you include his time in non-league, the stats are much better.

Argh apologies, it is Monday morning!

But within those stats there's the spells at basketcase Ipswich and Scunthorpe. Plus half a season with basketcase Town.

Ipswich were many years making in a decline and it took a fair while for things to start to turn around there. Scunny's record since Hurst left is a lot, lot worse than when he was there.

I don't think Pep would gave got a tune out of us in the second half of 2020/21.

Quoted from easypeersy

We are not playing Newport at home on 28th January.

Theoretically we might do if the Wigan v Luton game is postponed tomorrow night and again next midweek and has to be played on 4th Round weekend.

Quoted from diehardmariner

But within those stats there's the spells at basketcase Ipswich and Scunthorpe. Plus half a season with basketcase Town.

Ipswich were many years making in a decline and it took a fair while for things to start to turn around there. Scunny's record since Hurst left is a lot, lot worse than when he was there.

I don't think Pep would gave got a tune out of us in the second half of 2020/21.

An uncomfortable fact, but Holloway’s record that season was better than Hurst’s…

Holloway: P19 W5 D4 L10 (26.3%) - 1.0 PPG
Hurst: P25 W5 D8 L12 (20.0%) - 0.92 PPG

We were 19th when Holloway left, 24th come the end of the season. No doubt Hurst inherited a mess, but he made an absolute hash of that half-season and I suspect the man himself would tell you as much.

We got progressively worse as that season went on. The impact of a farcical pre-season and then shitty training methods started to take hold.

By the time Hurst got the job he had an inherited an unfit, uncoached, indisciplined and unmotivated squad. Everything was wrong and major surgery was needed mid-season, with sod all resource wise.  We didn't even balls blown up correctly.

Don't get me wrong, Hurst made mistakes but his task was impossible.

Quoted from Poojah

An uncomfortable fact, but Holloway’s record that season was better than Hurst’s…

Holloway: P19 W5 D4 L10 (26.3%) - 1.0 PPG
Hurst: P25 W5 D8 L12 (20.0%) - 0.92 PPG

We were 19th when Holloway left, 24th come the end of the season. No doubt Hurst inherited a mess, but he made an absolute hash of that half-season and I suspect the man himself would tell you as much.

I think what Runaway got away with was that a lot of teams weren't very prepared for the season but they soon sorted themselves out whilst we were turning Cheapside into Ally Pally.

24 games of Hurst MkII are this season and he has a 33.33% win rate. Still not very good but we were at least 4 weeks behind the rest of the division when it came to recruitment.

Time isn't a valid excuse for January and whilst I'm willing to consider mitigating circumstances for the win rate this season, it needs to improve next season, no exceptions.

It's highly unlikely that Paul Hurst could take GTFC any further than where they are now. If you check out the 'Peter Principle' you will see that where he is now along with the clubs position, he has attained his level of incompetence. That's not to be rude about him in any way, but this is his highest level of achievement, he does not have the skills necessary to take this football club to the next level.

Quoted from chelseacity

It's highly unlikely that Paul Hurst could take GTFC any further than where they are now. If you check out the 'Peter Principle' you will see that where he is now along with the clubs position, he has attained his level of incompetence. That's not to be rude about him in any way, but this is his highest level of achievement, he does not have the skills necessary to take this football club to the next level.

I mean he took Shrewsbury to within a game of The Championship so I'm not sure your theory is correct.

Quoted from chelseacity

It's highly unlikely that Paul Hurst could take GTFC any further than where they are now. If you check out the 'Peter Principle' you will see that where he is now along with the clubs position, he has attained his level of incompetence. That's not to be rude about him in any way, but this is his highest level of achievement, he does not have the skills necessary to take this football club to the next level.

But you are being rude, suggesting he is incompetent, and who are you to say that he does not have the skills to take us to the next level?

As long as we stay up this season was always going to be a free ride for Hurst , he’s early that to say the least .
This window Hurst and it’s owners need to show some intention which is going to cost some money

Quoted from Poojah

An uncomfortable fact, but Holloway’s record that season was better than Hurst’s…

Holloway: P19 W5 D4 L10 (26.3%) - 1.0 PPG
Hurst: P25 W5 D8 L12 (20.0%) - 0.92 PPG

We were 19th when Holloway left, 24th come the end of the season. No doubt Hurst inherited a mess, but he made an absolute hash of that half-season and I suspect the man himself would tell you as much.

This is what I'm afraid of given our last 10 games.

Quoted from chelseacity

It's highly unlikely that Paul Hurst could take GTFC any further than where they are now. If you check out the 'Peter Principle' you will see that where he is now along with the clubs position, he has attained his level of incompetence. That's not to be rude about him in any way, but this is his highest level of achievement, he does not have the skills necessary to take this football club to the next level.

Chelseacity? Why have you got that name?

You’re entitled to your opinion of course, even though it’s factually wrong about his achievements, but I’m wondering why you say he doesn’t have the skills. Can you elucidate a bit? Are you an assessor? Work in the football industry in some capacity?