Wrexham v Bromley  (BT Sport 1)

Good luck to Wrexham. Their support held up very well after relegation in 2008. They've had even more traumatic times than us what with attempts made to take the ground away from the club.

They had similar sized support to us when we got promoted to the second flight in 1980. They'd been up there for a few years at that time.

I'd back Wrexham all the time against the likes of Bromley, a truly toxic club in my experience.

I've actually been impressed that they were getting 4000+ after a decade in the fifth tier, a length of sentence that we thankfully never endured. We were barely pulling 2000 at the end of our first season and plenty of our crowds struggled to get much above 3000 subsequently.

If any fans in the National League deserve a promotion for sticking by their club and successfully fighting off predators it is Wrexham's. Okay, we may find the media circus around them tiresome but I doubt we would have complained if we had been the beneficiaries prior to our own takeover.

Quoted from thornemariner

Good luck to Wrexham. Their support held up very well after relegation in 2008. They've had even more traumatic times than us what with attempts made to take the ground away from the club.

They had similar sized support to us when we got promoted to the second flight in 1980. They'd been up there for a few years at that time.

I'd back Wrexham all the time against the likes of Bromley, a truly toxic club in my experience.

I've actually been impressed that they were getting 4000+ after a decade in the fifth tier, a length of sentence that we thankfully never endured. We were barely pulling 2000 at the end of our first season and plenty of our crowds struggled to get much above 3000 subsequently.

If any fans in the National League deserve a promotion for sticking by their club and successfully fighting off predators it is Wrexham's. Okay, we may find the media circus around them tiresome but I doubt we would have complained if we had been the beneficiaries prior to our own takeover.

Completely agree with this and good luck Wrexham. Looking at points so far this season it would be a sickener if Notts did not go up as well. Two automatic promotion places are essential and so we do not have this farcical situation where teams drop out of the league and it is extremely difficult to get back. Even though we are back in the league I would wholeheartedly support this, as having one rotten season should not condemn you too many seasons in the National League when you have achieved over 90 points, it is ridiculous. Utm

Yes, the current system is grossly unfair but it would be a much less exciting league if just the top two went up. The only solution to that would to make a 3rd promotion spot for the playoffs but league clubs aren't going to agree to such a notion I wouldn't have thought. A choice between excitement or fairness then? 🤔

Quoted from Badger57

Yes, the current system is grossly unfair but it would be a much less exciting league if just the top two went up. The only solution to that would to make a 3rd promotion spot for the playoffs but league clubs aren't going to agree to such a notion I wouldn't have thought. A choice between excitement or fairness then? 🤔

I think if the National league and the EFL could come together and we just had a league 3, the stigma would be removed and we could have a more realistic promotion and relegation system.

The National league is league 3 in all but name now that so many league clubs have been relegated into it with more to follow this season.

If I was going to be pedantic, I'd note that every club relegated into the National League is a Football League club...  

Was there some recent talk of upping the promotion slots to 3 in the NL?

Seemed like it was being looked at favourably now.

Quoted from ginnywings

Was there some recent talk of upping the promotion slots to 3 in the NL?

Seemed like it was being looked at favourably now.

I seem to recall some talk about it for next season, or it could have been the season after that. As the EFL clubs have to vote on it somebody posted something like 'Turkeys don't vote for Christmas'. Whether it has gone through or not I'm not 100% certain.

Genuine question ... are all national league clubs run as Full time clubs? If so then it should be known as a football league table (league 3 for example). 10 - 15 years ago it was roughly split 50/50 with full time and part time clubs so I understand why it wasn't considered then to be changed

Quoted from lukeo

Genuine question ... are all national league clubs run as Full time clubs? If so then it should be known as a football league table (league 3 for example). 10 - 15 years ago it was roughly split 50/50 with full time and part time clubs so I understand why it wasn't considered then to be changed

Dorking, Maidenhead and Wealdstone are the only 3 teams in this years National League that are not fully professional.

Quoted from lukeo

Genuine question ... are all national league clubs run as Full time clubs? If so then it should be known as a football league table (league 3 for example).

It is not merely a name though is it? It is a separate league run by a different authority (although within the same pyramid). In the same way that the EFL is different to the PL, the NL is different to the EFL. Why would the National League want to call their top division "League 3"?