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Sandford1981
July 17, 2023, 9:13pm
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That's a job I've done countless times, although the sleeper walls were still in situ and just required a dpm and wooden wallplate bedding on.

I once moved into a house, only to find a big hole in the floor which had been hidden by a rug and a piano on viewing. I started to investigate and 4 hours later, I had no floors or joists in either the front room or living room. Bit of a nightmare to say the least.

I have to say that the labour does sound a tad high to me, as does the materials cost, but I'm a bit out of touch with prices nowadays being semi retired and only taking on small jobs nowadays.

When you say the sleeper walls have one brick; do you mean one brick in height, which is unusual, or one brick single skin wall a few bricks high?


4 sets spread evenly across the width of the room consisting of one brick in height and 18 in length.


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4 sets spread evenly across the width of the room consisting of one brick in height and 18 in length.


Righto!

18 bricks is 4 mts, so I presume it's a room roughly 4mts x 3mts.

Not a lot of brickwork and not a big room, so it does seem at the top end price wise to me.
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Junior doctor £14 p/h x 8  = £122 per day. Just saying.


Tbf you can make decent money from trades , I did a few bits to help a painter and decorator and then  brickie out a good few years ago was good crack and a decent handful of actual cash at the end in your hand .

It's suprising the amount of people you talk to now ,who went down the academic route who  wish they had learnt a trade instead (or maybe that's just the people I talk to ) .

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Tbf you can make decent money from trades , I did a few bits to help a painter and decorator and then  brickie out a good few years ago was good crack and a decent handful of actual cash at the end in your hand .

It's suprising the amount of people you talk to now ,who went down the academic route who  wish they had learnt a trade instead (or maybe that's just the people I talk to ) .



Radio 4 the other day - AI won’t be a threat to the skilled trades - too much thinking on your feet so would be way too costly to build the algorithms to operate the robots. Professions are much more at risk from AI.

Multi-skill mechanical and electrical operatives for retrofitting renewable technologies in millions of homes - heat pumps, solar, batteries, heat batteries, infra red heat, storage heaters - solutions will be multifaceted dependent on the property’s design and the skills will be like gold dust. They are already in massive under supply, and the third level institutions are just not gearing up fast enough to deliver the skilled people.

The gas engineers in their late 40s and 50s won’t retrain to install heat pumps without a big financial incentive - they’ll just do the residual work left for gas boilers then retire.

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Righto!

18 bricks is 4 mts, so I presume it's a room roughly 4mts x 3mts.

Not a lot of brickwork and not a big room, so it does seem at the top end price wise to me.


Yep bang on, you presume correctly! Glad it’s not just me. Thank you for your help.


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Righto!

18 bricks is 4 mts, so I presume it's a room roughly 4mts x 3mts.

Not a lot of brickwork and not a big room, so it does seem at the top end price wise to me.


Just had another quote for the same job and the Labour is  £750 which to me is much more like it and what I would say is fair.


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Just had another quote for the same job and the Labour is  £750 which to me is much more like it and what I would say is fair.


Nice one.

I'll waive my 10% consultation fee this time.
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Nice one.

I'll waive my 10% consultation fee this time.


😂 cheers I appreciate it!


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Junior doctor £14 p/h x 8  = £122 per day. Just saying.


Personally i would pay the £200 - £250 and get the builder to do the work rather than a junior doctor 😄


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Afraid not, no.

Done a few injection damp courses years back, which is relatively easy to do and you can hire the gear.

However, you first need to make sure you actually have rising damp as there are other reasons why a wall can be damp. Bridged damp course, poor ventilation, blocked air bricks etc. Beware unscrupulous builders who will charge you a fortune to 'fix' a problem that may not even exist and may not be cured with a damp course.

You need to bear in mind that damp proof remedies don't always work and that the work involved is very messy and disruptive because of the need to remove all the render and plaster up to a metre up the wall.

An effective and cheaper solution can be tanking, where you remove the render, paint the walls with a liquid membrane and re-render and plaster, with a waterproofing agent added to the render.

Then there is the traditional method of physically removing a course of bricks and fitting a DPC before replacing said bricks. This is done in small sections for obvious reasons.

I had quite a bad wall in my own house and I tackled it by covering it over with panelling made from water resistant MDF and painted. The damp is still there but you can't see it and it was done in 2 days.


Personally I would only go down the physical route in our local area. Injections, creams, etc just don't last/work. Same for osmosis. Whether that's the sea level , salt water , water table whatever...they just don't last.  
Got piles of useless "guarantees"  in our work files for properties with injections that were done 10 - 20 yrs ago but are riddled again.




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