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October 27, 2022, 10:48am

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Was a big fan of VAR but not so sure now.

Harry Kane's goal last night was ruled offside despite "ball went backwards" claim.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1585381377301962752


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October 27, 2022, 11:03am
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I was at the match and talk about destroying the joy of football!, it’s ruining the game as a spectacle and should be scrapped. Can you imagine how we would have felt if Waterfall’s goal at Wrexham had been struck off because of Smithy’s actions or Dissy’s goal at County for hand ball?

Bloody hate the system
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October 27, 2022, 11:04am

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The whole point of VAR was to address clear and obvious errors. This is neither clear nor obvious. VAR is sucking the life out of football, and I’m grateful we don’t have it in the lower leagues.
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kane was in front of the ball despite it going backwards....Right decision, even if i dislike VAR

I find it hard to have any sympathy at all with these clubs and the millions they spunk about on a yearly basis
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kane was in front of the ball despite it going backwards....Right decision, even if i dislike VAR

I find it hard to have any sympathy at all with these clubs and the millions they spunk about on a yearly basis


Correct. Technically it was offside.

If you’re a Sporting fan you’d be pïssed off it wouldn’t have been checked by VAR and the goal stood. Someone is going to be annoyed, that’s football. If the technology is there you have to use it.

It’s just an excuse for lazy, thick football pundits to show their lack of understanding of the laws of the game. Talksport would have nothing to moan about if VAR didn’t exist.
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Don't like VAR but have greatly enjoyed the selfie-stick footage of Spurs fans celebrating in a very self aware manner before going all sad. Loads of them on Twitter with a 'Game's finished' statement and they are all hilarious.
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Quoted from Hagrid
kane was in front of the ball despite it going backwards....Right decision, even if i dislike VAR

I find it hard to have any sympathy at all with these clubs and the millions they spunk about on a yearly basis


Well he wasn't really was he? Where they draw the vertical line, connected to another line showed his kneecap half an inch ahead. Some may say that half an inch is half an inch, but it is subjective as to where you draw the lines, the angles and the precise moment the ball is headed across. It's not football to disallow goals like that.

Whenever a goal is scored the authorities are actively looking for ways to disallow it. Sometimes they go back and look during the build-up to the goal 30 yards out. It is completely ridiculous.

I have said it before but why don't the players or managers refuse to play with VAR as it is ruining the game.

My only team is GTFC but imagine the Spurs fans and staff and players last night - it is becoming a bloody nightmare.
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October 27, 2022, 11:23am

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This was always going to be the case and plenty of normal people had pointed out that introducing VAR was a “Pandora’s box” type situation, but the talking heads, pundits, managers, journos etc just wouldn’t let it be. The whole thing’s fúcked now and I wouldn’t swap our place for one in the Prem with VAR for any money.

It was best summed up by someone on MOTD the other week, might’ve been the City/Liverpool match where there was a contentious VAR decision that could’ve gone either way. The pundit said “some go for you, some go against you, they tend to balance themselves out over the course of a season”….err, yeah, that’s what happened since football was invented and everyone just accepted it. Now you’ve got the same outcome, but you can’t celebrate a goal in case it’s pulled back for someone farting the wrong way 50-yards up the pitch, and the game is held up for 10 mins while the ref does a performative stare at a TV monitor.

Said it before, if we had VAR in the playoffs we would’ve never had that joy we felt after the two goals at County or McAtee at Wrexham, which would’ve probably been all pulled up.
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Correct. Technically it was offside.

If you’re a Sporting fan you’d be pïssed off it wouldn’t have been checked by VAR and the goal stood. Someone is going to be annoyed, that’s football. If the technology is there you have to use it.

It’s just an excuse for lazy, thick football pundits to show their lack of understanding of the laws of the game. Talksport would have nothing to moan about if VAR didn’t exist.


I feel incredibly disappointed in myself for agreeing with Andy Gray, but I don't go to football to see goals scrubbed out for offside knees.  

Yes, I completely agree that the rules are the rules and this belief that VAR is ruling goals out, when it's the application of it to the rules that is causing the issue.

But I just don't like what it's doing to the game as a spectacle.  It's too refined in the decisions.  Football isn't a perfect art.  It's the human errors in it that make it so fascinating, to me anyway.  I think referees need help and I think technology can certainly be used to do so, retrospectively after game in instances of diving etc.  But during the game, I think I'd be much happier if VAR wasn't a feature at all.  
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October 27, 2022, 12:00pm

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Quoted from ska face
This was always going to be the case and plenty of normal people had pointed out that introducing VAR was a “Pandora’s box” type situation, but the talking heads, pundits, managers, journos etc just wouldn’t let it be. The whole thing’s fúcked now and I wouldn’t swap our place for one in the Prem with VAR for any money.

It was best summed up by someone on MOTD the other week, might’ve been the City/Liverpool match where there was a contentious VAR decision that could’ve gone either way. The pundit said “some go for you, some go against you, they tend to balance themselves out over the course of a season”….err, yeah, that’s what happened since football was invented and everyone just accepted it. Now you’ve got the same outcome, but you can’t celebrate a goal in case it’s pulled back for someone farting the wrong way 50-yards up the pitch, and the game is held up for 10 mins while the ref does a performative stare at a TV monitor.

Said it before, if we had VAR in the playoffs we would’ve never had that joy we felt after the two goals at County or McAtee at Wrexham, which would’ve probably been all pulled up.


The thing is, if we had VAR then that Wrexham game would have been totally different. Maybe Wrexham's early award of a penalty would have been overturned but if not Mullin's goal would definitely have been disallowed for handball and the game would have played out completely different.

Keep VAR in the Prem, we don't bloody want it down here.


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