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Holloway is on BBC 1 Breakfast now pushing his book, no idea if he will mention his spell at Town.
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Needless to say he didn't. He just came out with the type of guff which took the vast majority of us in. Looking at where we are now the only conclusion you can come to is that we ultimately dodged a massive bullet there.
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Needless to say he didn't. He just came out with the type of guff which took the vast majority of us in. Looking at where we are now the only conclusion you can come to is that we ultimately dodged a massive bullet there.
I don’t know about that, the bullet definitely hit. Without the urgent CPR applied by messrs Stockwood and Pettit we’d almost certainly be dead now. Important to remember both sides of the coin.
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Let's put a positive spin on it.
His arrival here was in some way linked to this bigger masterplan that involved Alex May, I'm pretty much convinced of that. I'm not sure if it was a business arrangement or that Fenty/May felt that Holloway would have the connections to make the inroads they wanted. Regardless, it happened.
That in turn brought the May saga forward, someone (thank you!) tipped off the local press and James Findlater (when we eventually get a new ground he's as deserving as anyone of a stand named after them!) dug and dug and dug, probably in very difficult circumstances to get that scoop and run with it.
Once the story was out it absolutely copulated Fenty over. Here was the second in command of the local council caught in bed with a convicted fraudster and it left him with his pants well and truly down. Whatever plans he had business wise in this area were done and dusted.
Had this not come out, Fenty wouldn't have let go on his grasp of GTFC because he viewed it as integral to whatever vision/scheme he had lined up. Only when the reality hit that he wasn't going to get to see this through, did he decide to sell out as we were no longer of any benefit to him.
Holloway's regime (first four months aside) was a disaster. But 22 months after he first arrived, we're in a ridiculously better position now. It's not even recognisable. I'm not grateful for his role in that because it wasn't intended, I'll sure as hell never thank him. But without him as the catalyst for the shenanigans to develop, I'm not convinced we would have our current ownership.
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media don't know what he is going to say next - that's why they love him cos he's a bumbling idiot Convinced if he didn't sound like a carrot cruncher they'd leave him well alone
They are laughing at him and not with him
From a neutral point of view he's very entertaining and I can see why he gets thousands for after dinner speeches
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My partner text me saying "It's the football manager on BBC that you don't like" swiftly followed by "he seems like he's insane". I feel a bit bad cause she has no interest in football at all so I must have been really ranting about him for her to remember his name.
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Holloway couldn't understand why he's getting no calls from clubs and England will win the World Cup in Qatar, says it all.
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Holloway couldn't understand why he's getting no calls from clubs and England will win the World Cup in Qatar, says it all.
We’ll win the World Cup? Yep. That’s the normal populist guff that spews out of his mouth.
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I genuinely couldn’t bear to listen to the bloke. So much so that it occurred to me when we signed Ryley Towler last season that he’d ruined the West Country accent for me in the same way Hitler ruined the toothbrush moustache.
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My partner text me saying "It's the football manager on BBC that you don't like" swiftly followed by "he seems like he's insane". I feel a bit bad cause she has no interest in football at all so I must have been really ranting about him for her to remember his name.
Say what you want about the bald bloke from Bristol… his acting works for him: he’s built a character that a lot of people find amusing. Let’s face it, he’s mentioned on here a LOT more than any other recent managers: Slade, Jolley, Bignot etc. If he angers you, the best thing you can do is ignore him- any publicity is good publicity…
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Makes the flesh creep, every time I hear his name, that all I can say while vomiting
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Say what you want about the bald bloke from Bristol… his acting works for him: he’s built a character that a lot of people find amusing.
Let’s face it, he’s mentioned on here a LOT more than any other recent managers: Slade, Jolley, Bignot etc.
If he angers you, the best thing you can do is ignore him- any publicity is good publicity…
Nah, his is an episode of our history we must not forget. Slade and Bignot did terrible jobs for us (Jolley does not fall into that category for me) but they were not part of a bigger scheme that could have destroyed the club, all for his financial benefit. And he also did the worst job of the lot of them to boot, but that frankly pales into insignificance. Bignot and Slade I will forget in time; Holloway will remain hatefully remembered until the day that I die - and preferably not before he does.
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[quote=123]Let's put a positive spin on it.
His arrival here was in some way linked to this bigger masterplan that involved Alex May, I'm pretty much convinced of that. I'm not sure if it was a business arrangement or that Fenty/May felt that Holloway would have the connections to make the inroads they wanted. Regardless, it happened.
That in turn brought the May saga forward, someone (thank you!) tipped off the local press and James Findlater (when we eventually get a new ground he's as deserving as anyone of a stand named after them!) dug and dug and dug, probably in very difficult circumstances to get that scoop and run with it.
Once the story was out it absolutely copulated Fenty over. Here was a the second in command of the local council caught in bed with a convicted fraudster and it left him with his pants well and truly down. Whatever plans he had business wise in this area were done and dusted.
Had this not come out, Fenty wouldn't have let go on his grasp of GTFC because he viewed it as integral to whatever vision/scheme he had lined up. Only when the reality hit that he wasn't going to get to see this through, did he decided to sell out as we were no longer of any benefit to him.
Holloway's regime (first four months aside) was a disaster. But 22 months after he first arrived, we're in a ridiculously better position now. It's not even recognisable. I'm not grateful for his role in that because it wasn't intended, I'll sure as hell never thank him. But without him as the catalyst for the shenanigans to develop, I'm not convinced we would have our current ownership.[/quote
I hate you Diehard. Now i cannot undo the image of Fenty with his trousers down.
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I would say he drew in 98% of people and we all thought that Fenty had pulled off some form of major coup when he was announced as manager. Rumours of Charlie Adam signing, his willingness to stump up £100k and ambition from the board were all, quite basically bullshit.
That first (half) season was promising but the major fu(k up of the signings pre covid season and the financial lies will all he will be remembered for. And quite rightly so.
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I hate you Diehard. Now i cannot undo the image of Fenty with his trousers down.
[youtube]u9e0QgHjDZc[/youtube] Can complete the picture now...
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Jolley left with a classy goodbye message.
Hollow words / runaway promised to stay promptly left and never explained himself, I don't count that new owner contact nonsense weak excuse.
So I remember one as classy polite and wish him well
And the other quite the opposite
I'd actually be far interested in a jolley book or interview than a Holloway one but that's the way these things work ...
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Has anyone actually bought his new book?
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Holloway is on BBC 1 Breakfast now pushing his book, no idea if he will mention his spell at Town.
I would say we'll be in his book definitely. He's mentioned us a few times since in podcasts and so forth, things that I have listened too out of morbid curiosity. In one Podcast he said Grimsby fans are some of the best he's ever had in his career and that he is absolutely gutted that we all hate him now. He commented that we'd raised X amount of money for a mental health charity during Covid times and he thought that was amazing. Think he followed the usual drivel about leaving because he came here to work with the current regime, but went on to apologise for ruining anyone's football club (if we thought that) and that he didn't honestly mean to set out to do that (I would imagine that's more aimed at us and Millwall fans)
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I would say we'll be in his book definitely.
He's mentioned us a few times since in podcasts and so forth, things that I have listened too out of morbid curiosity.
In one Podcast he said Grimsby fans are some of the best he's ever had in his career and that he is absolutely gutted that we all hate him now.
He commented that we'd raised X amount of money for a mental health charity during Covid times and he thought that was amazing.
Think he followed the usual drivel about leaving because he came here to work with the current regime, but went on to apologise for ruining anyone's football club (if we thought that) and [b[that he didn't honestly mean to set out to do that (I would imagine that's more aimed at us and Millwall fans)[/b]
He wouldn't have intended to but the fact remains that it seems extremely likely that he got into bed with Fenty and a convicted fraudster in a nefarious bid to make them all some money using the club as the vehicle to do so. His own arrogance would have made him think that he could have carried the football side of things and been the front for it. I doubt it was even his idea, he would have been seen by Fenty and May as the extremely useful idiot to help keep things sweet on the pitch. Doesn't excuse him though, he's still a n ob.
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(trimmed for brevity) That in turn brought the May saga forward, someone (thank you!) tipped off the local press and James Findlater .
With a good script writer this would make a decent drama, like a modern version of the Watergate scandal, maybe call it "All the not Chairmans men"
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If we're going down a political thriller type, it has to be the Ides of March May.
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Holloway was told he would have money to spend.....
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For a man that’s had nothing funny to say for nigh on 20 years, he rarely shuts up.
Fraud, charlatan, crook…
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He just spouts garbage. Fundamentally we signed players (with the exception of Scannell) who were at best National League level (Williams) and in Gibson, Rose, Jackson, Bennett who were substantially below that level. It's no wonder we got relegated.
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