Kit supply : not just gtfc!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62256634

For those complaining about the availability of the new kit, this gives some context.....

But it is…people on here said so and have one example of a team dealing with it…

Only 7% of kit sales is kept by clubs which is shocking! Don't Palace wear Macron?

Barnsley who have Puma kits played their first friendly (unsure about subsequent) in last seasons away kit.

Kevin McGuire from the Price of Football was on the radio this morning and a ManC shirt is £70 or £100 if you want a match day one. That’s an staggering £30 more than the same garment from the same supplier costs for a Stockport one. Obscene.

44 out of the 92 clubs have kit forsale at the moment. Puts our situation into perspective, all those impatient people!!

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Only 7% of kit sales is kept by clubs which is shocking! Don't Palace wear Macron?

Barnsley who have Puma kits played their first friendly (unsure about subsequent) in last seasons away kit.

I'd assume that "7% commission" refers to kit sold by 3rd parties, you'd expect that margin to be higher when sold through club shops.

7% is for the Premiership, I believe it’s much higher for the lower leagues

Quoted from oochiad

7% is for the Premiership, I believe it’s much higher for the lower leagues

I think the Premiership teams get a chunky fee upfront on top of this too.

Something was said when Dixons were our shirt sponsor, I believe they paid £100k to the club but it was sad they would get a significant amount of that back as they would get a percentage of every shirt sold.

Caught the back end of the story on talksport this morning, its not just relica tops, some clubs do not have their new kits for the first teams available at the moment.

Thats the problem these days when everything is manufactured abroad. I worked for Falcon Cycles when all the bikes were manufactured in Brigg, employing two to three hundred people then a big wig had a idea to have the bikes manufactured abroad in Turkey & Vietman to save a tenner per bike, resulting in all those job losses.

I said at the time it was a bad move, ordering 6 months in adavnce, no flexability with production, quality control and delivery times. I was proved right, we had poor quality build, when the bikes did arrive, did not sell (reduced the price of bike in the end to shift them), had this happened while being made in Brigg, production was altered to meet customer demand,  A ship sink with thousands of bikes lost, disrupting the whole supply chain.  In the end cost all those people's jobs for nothing in the end.

I try not to buy anything that's made in China, but its getting harder to find alternative options.

I was in the shop today and there seemed to be plenty of stock of kit and training kit , I never bothered looking at the sizes but I’m sure they have plenty

What we need is to cut out the middle man.  Take the production of the kits in house, ideally with a really crappy logo that falls off.  Who knows, we might even be able to then sell kits to other clubs in the future!

Quoted from The Yard Dog

Caught the back end of the story on talksport this morning, its not just relica tops, some clubs do not have their new kits for the first teams available at the moment.

Thats the problem these days when everything is manufactured abroad. I worked for Falcon Cycles when all the bikes were manufactured in Brigg, employing two to three hundred people then a big wig had a idea to have the bikes manufactured abroad in Turkey & Vietman to save a tenner per bike, resulting in all those job losses.

I said at the time it was a bad move, ordering 6 months in adavnce, no flexability with production, quality control and delivery times. I was proved right, we had poor quality build, when the bikes did arrive, did not sell (reduced the price of bike in the end to shift them), had this happened while being made in Brigg, production was altered to meet customer demand,  A ship sink with thousands of bikes lost, disrupting the whole supply chain.  In the end cost all those people's jobs for nothing in the end.
I try not to buy anything that's made in China, but its getting harder to find alternative options.

This is worth a read    https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180517-the-cost-of-swapping-shirts

Quoted from diehardmariner

What we need is to cut out the middle man.  Take the production of the kits in house, ideally with a really crappy logo that falls off.  Who knows, we might even be able to then sell kits to other clubs in the future!

O yes whatever happened to that idea

Wimbledon lose plot as they release blue away kit to go with their blue home kit.

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The kit supply issue is mainly caused by the Chinese governments “zero COVID” policy. If there is one case of COVID a whole community has to shut down for 2 weeks. This meant that the shirt suppliers who produce in China had their production disrupted by unplanned shutdowns. And the same policy has led to shipping issues in and out of China.

Town’s kit is made in Italy.

Ah, yes, because Italy hasn't been affected by Covid, either...

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Town’s kit is made in Italy.

That is almost certainly false.

It will be manufactured in China. It may be distributed from Italy ***

Most cheap ‘Italian’ off-the-peg clobber is made in Asia. The more expensive clothing is made in Italy by Chinese workers. Only low production, bespoke clothing tends to be truly ‘Made in Italy’ these days.

*** I doubt even that because aren’t UK tariffs lower than EU tariffs for Chinese made goods. Presumably Macron import Chinese manufactured kit into the UK straight from China using their new UK company.

Quoted from SteffiMariner

Ah, yes, because Italy hasn't been affected by Covid, either...

Does the Italian government have a zero covid policy that has forced Macron to close their factories in Italy for an extended period? No.

Have Macron been effected by the disruption in shipping container transit times from Asia to Europe? No.

That was my point. Our issues are caused by us failing to anticipate demand and because Macron got a kit huge deal with UEFA to supply a whole raft of lower ranked international sides as part of UEFA’s Kit Assistance programme and prioritised that over the spring meaning clubs like us got our deliveries a couple of weeks later than normal whilst the season is starting earlier than normal. The perfect storm.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Does the Italian government have a zero covid policy that has forced Macron to close their factories in Italy for an extended period? No.

Have Macron been effected by the disruption in shipping container transit times from Asia to Europe? No.

That was my point. Our issues are caused by us failing to anticipate demand and because Macron got a kit huge deal with UEFA to supply a whole raft of lower ranked international sides as part of UEFA’s Kit Assistance programme and prioritised that over the spring meaning clubs like us got our deliveries a couple of weeks later than normal whilst the season is starting earlier than normal. The perfect storm.

They’re Italian, coming from Italy…we should be thankful we’re getting them at all…

Our issues are caused by us failing to anticipate demand

Really?..they had to order in February, at which point we sat outside the play offs were on a bit of a downward trajectory...then the miracle of 2022 started to gain momentum...
So, no they didn't "fail" because at the point of putting that order in, nobody and I mean nobody could predict what came after!..

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Does the Italian government have a zero covid policy that has forced Macron to close their factories in Italy for an extended period? No.

Have Macron been effected by the disruption in shipping container transit times from Asia to Europe? No.

That was my point. Our issues are caused by us failing to anticipate demand and because Macron got a kit huge deal with UEFA to supply a whole raft of lower ranked international sides as part of UEFA’s Kit Assistance programme and prioritised that over the spring meaning clubs like us got our deliveries a couple of weeks later than normal whilst the season is starting earlier than normal. The perfect storm.

The time has come where you have become the 2nd person I have blocked on The Fishy. You're constant whining and moaning and the drivel you post on here has finally made me make this decision.

This shirt whining is rather tiresome to some extent. So we’ve shifted around 1500/600 shirts in total and about a handful weren’t able to get them. Let’s assume the club had gambled hugely in February and ordered 3000, that would still probably leave a 1000 on the shelf until a few are purchased at crimbo.

Hardly seems the cryarsing. It’s an unprecedented amount shifted on the first day but in truth, it’s less than a fifth of season ticket holders…

Surely the biggest issue this summer is accommodating new fans and walk ups, not worrying because a few middle men can’t get a shirt…

They doubled the normal order, but sales were way beyond what anyone could have anticipated because we not only got unexpectedly promoted, but we did it in such an incredible way, against all the odds, that it created a buying frenzy.

I don't think anyone could foresee what was about to happen when the order went in 3 months before the season ended.

Quoted from ginnywings

They doubled the normal order, but sales were way beyond what anyone could have anticipated because we not only got unexpectedly promoted, but we did it in such an incredible way, against all the odds, that it created a buying frenzy.

I don't think anyone could foresee what was about to happen when the order went in 3 months before the season ended.

I’m not having that ginny, I predicted that very thing as long ago as last August. If only they had listened…

https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1627825584/s-0/#num3

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Our issues are caused by us failing to anticipate demand

Really?..they had to order in February, at which point we sat outside the play offs were on a bit of a downward trajectory...then the miracle of 2022 started to gain momentum...
So, no they didn't "fail" because at the point of putting that order in, nobody and I mean nobody could predict what came after!..

I seem to recall reading posts last season in which somebody kept saying "Going Up"

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Our issues are caused by us failing to anticipate demand

There isn't a forecasting model in the world that would have come even close to predicting this level of increased demand.  It's that simple.  

Even doubling the normal order is bold, very bold in fact.  To expect the club, or any club, to have predicted this is completely unrealistic.

Quoted from Poojah

I’m not having that ginny, I predicted that very thing as long ago as last August. If only they had listened…

https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1627825584/s-0/#num3

Nostradamus.

Some kind of witchcraft at least.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Does the Italian government have a zero covid policy that has forced Macron to close their factories in Italy for an extended period? No.

Have Macron been effected by the disruption in shipping container transit times from Asia to Europe? No.

That was my point. Our issues are caused by us failing to anticipate demand and because Macron got a kit huge deal with UEFA to supply a whole raft of lower ranked international sides as part of UEFA’s Kit Assistance programme and prioritised that over the spring meaning clubs like us got our deliveries a couple of weeks later than normal whilst the season is starting earlier than normal. The perfect storm.

Of course Macron are going to prioritise UEFA and nations over English fifth fourth tier Grimsby Town. We doubled our order in February, when we didn't look like going up.

There are global supply chain issues but it's a cashflow issue too. If we ordered triple, Macron could have told us to do one as they have other customers too.

Football is back tomorrow so hopefully you can stop crying about our kits, how bad you think the communication is and start appreciating all the good things that the board have done rather than crying about having to go to the game wearing a town top with Young's across the front.

My youngest really wants the home kit for his birthday in September but I've already explained it might be a problem but I will get him one when I can. He's taken that news better than many adults.

Quoted from ginnywings

Nostradamus.

Some kind of witchcraft at least.

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