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Who have we got locked down, who do we want locking down and who are we looking for upgrades on?
I unfortunately haven’t made many games this season but have listened to a fair few but a run down is always useful to have from those who get to most games
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Who have we got locked down, who do we want locking down and who are we looking for upgrades on?
I unfortunately haven’t made many games this season but have listened to a fair few but a run down is always useful to have from those who get to most games
If I was to make an educated guess I would expect the following regardless of what happens between now and the end of the season, A few may swing the other way Scannell, Wright, Crookes, Sousa perhaps, but I expect the above. Under ContractShaun Pearson Harry Clifton Ollie Battersby Gavan Holohan John McAtee Jordan Maguire-Drew Harvey Tomlinson Aaron Braithwaite Jamie Bramwell Edwin Essel Offered New DealMax Crocombe Danny Amos Michee Efete Jordan Cropper Jaz Goundry Luke Waterfall Ben Fox Max Wright Ryan Taylor ReleasedJames McKeown Adam Crookes Scott Burgess Giles Coke Evan Khouri Erico Sousa Luke Spokes Lenell John-Lewis Luis Adlard Sean Scannell Available on a Free Transfer
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I'm quite disappointed we have allowed key players contracts to run down again. I didn't expect that of the new owners. I'm sure there must be reasons the likes of Ben Fox, Michee Efete and Ryan Taylor's deals have been allowed to expire. But I can't understand it. Even if it was a two tier contract depending on what division we are in next season, surely not beyond the wit of man?
Put it this way, if I was Fox, Efete or Taylor I would have instructed my agent to see what's out there some time ago. It's their livelyhoods, how they pay their mortgages.
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I'm quite disappointed we have allowed key players contracts to run down again. I didn't expect that of the new owners. I'm sure there must be reasons the likes of Ben Fox, Michee Efete and Ryan Taylor's deals have been allowed to expire. But I can't understand it. Even if it was a two tier contract depending on what division we are in next season, surely not beyond the wit of man?
Put it this way, if I was Fox, Efete or Taylor I would have instructed my agent to see what's out there some time ago. It's their livelyhoods, how they pay their mortgages.
From what I understand, that isn't the case. Deals have already been offered to players who they want to stay but Hurst doesn't want anything publicly known until after the season ends. We have a one year option on Efete which I believe the club have already exercised.
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I would keep Scannell and Sousa over than that the list is about right
If I was to make an educated guess I would expect the following regardless of what happens between now and the end of the season, A few may swing the other way Scannell, Wright, Crookes, Sousa perhaps, but I expect the above.
Under Contract
Shaun Pearson Harry Clifton Ollie Battersby Gavan Holohan John McAtee Jordan Maguire-Drew Harvey Tomlinson Aaron Braithwaite Jamie Bramwell Edwin Essel
Offered New Deal
Max Crocombe Danny Amos Michee Efete Jordan Cropper Jaz Goundry Luke Waterfall Ben Fox Max Wright Ryan Taylor
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James McKeown Adam Crookes Scott Burgess Giles Coke Evan Khouri Erico Sousa Luke Spokes Lenell John-Lewis Luis Adlard Sean Scannell
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I think Scannell is worth keeping. he should be available to play some time in the new year and could well be an asset in next seasons run in.
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From what I understand, that isn't the case.
Deals have already been offered to players who they want to stay but Hurst doesn't want anything publicly known until after the season ends.
We have a one year option on Efete which I believe the club have already exercised.
Fair enough, thanks for the reply.
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I think Scannell is worth keeping. he should be available to play some time in the new year and could well be an asset in next seasons run in.
If he's snapped his achilies tendon then I'm sorry but at 32 he'll do well to come back from that and play professionally at all and recovery usually no less than nine months. Best wishes to him.
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Wanting to keep Scannell is driven by sentiment. We're not in position to be utilising a salary on someone who could struggle to play next season regardless of the quality of his performances in the past few weeks. I think Max Wright will leave as well. Crocombe is an interesting one I think. I think it's clear Battersby is out number 2 for next season so does Hurst see Crocombe as good enough to be Number 1?
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I would keep Scannell and Sousa over than that the list is about right
If I was to make an educated guess I would expect the following regardless of what happens between now and the end of the season, A few may swing the other way Scannell, Wright, Crookes, Sousa perhaps, but I expect the above.
Under Contract
Shaun Pearson Harry Clifton Ollie Battersby Gavan Holohan John McAtee Jordan Maguire-Drew Harvey Tomlinson Aaron Braithwaite Jamie Bramwell Edwin Essel
Offered New Deal
Max Crocombe Danny Amos Michee Efete Jordan Cropper Jaz Goundry Luke Waterfall Ben Fox Max Wright Ryan Taylor
Released
James McKeown Adam Crookes Scott Burgess Giles Coke Evan Khouri Erico Sousa Luke Spokes Lenell John-Lewis Luis Adlard Sean Scannell
Available on a Free Transfer
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[/quote] There’s no way we could offer Scannell a deal if he’s out until at least Christmas, that would be ridiculous.
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There is no way wwe can sign a player who has scarcely played the last few years due to repeated injury,and who has just suffered a potential career ending injury.
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I think Scannell is worth keeping. he should be available to play some time in the new year and could well be an asset in next seasons run in.
This might not be popular as I know we aren't a charity but Scannell was in great form and he got a nasty injury playing for us. It would show that our club cares and has moved on if we offered him a one year deal so that he could focus on rehabilitation without having to worry about that loss of income whilst he's injured. I know that might be unpopular, I know we aren't a charity, I know there is a salary cap and I know football is a ruthless business but compassion could help set us apart from others and Scannell is apparently a great character around the place.
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There’s no way we could offer Scannell a deal if he’s out until at least Christmas, that would be ridiculous.[/quote] I’ve no idea what the situation is regarding player insurance but would hope that we look after Scannell through his rehabilitation in whatever way we can.
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I'm sure PH will already be sounding out the players he wants to keep and will also be making tentative moves to recruit new players.
He did a mid season re-build of the team and made it better, with a few positions improved upon, so I'm sure he can conjure up some more players for the squad with the whole of the summer to work with.
I'm fairly confident he will be making the squad stronger for next season and I hope to see some more upgrades on what we currently have.
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From what I understand, that isn't the case.
Deals have already been offered to players who they want to stay but Hurst doesn't want anything publicly known until after the season ends.
We have a one year option on Efete which I believe the club have already exercised.
I saw and heard one player telling someone he's being released before the Maidenhead game. I've also heard that another player is getting a new deal so it seems clear that things are happening. What we get to know and what actually goes on are two completely different things.
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I saw and heard one player telling someone he's being released before the Maidenhead game. I've also heard that another player is getting a new deal so it seems clear that things are happening.
What we get to know and what actually goes on are two completely different things.
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All I will say is the player getting released is young and going to uni in York. The one I got told is getting a deal played on Sunday.
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All I will say is the player getting released is young and going to uni in York. The one I got told is getting a deal played on Sunday.
Interesting it could be a few, i have a gut feeling its Dieseruvwe * out of contract (not sure about Bramwell 13 Battersby 32 Cropper *5 Pearson 30 Burgess *3 Crookes *38 Bramwell 35 Jones *8 Coke *19 Wright *25 Maguire-Drew 12 Dieseruvwe *Substitutes 9 Abrahams 17 Raikhy 31 Khouri 34 Braithwaite 37 Tomlinson
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Interesting it could be a few, i have a gut feeling its Dieseruvwe
* out of contract (not sure about Bramwell
13 Battersby 32 Cropper * 5 Pearson 30 Burgess * 3 Crookes * 38 Bramwell 35 Jones * 8 Coke * 19 Wright * 25 Maguire-Drew 12 Dieseruvwe *
Substitutes 9 Abrahams 17 Raikhy 31 Khouri 34 Braithwaite 37 Tomlinson
There is another one out of contract at the top of the starting 11 😉
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All I will say is the player getting released is young and going to uni in York. The one I got told is getting a deal played on Sunday.
Take it you're on about Cropper, or just trying to pull our p!ssers..🤣
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Take it you're on about Cropper, or just trying to pull our p!ssers..🤣
Cropper has done ok, i bet its Burgess not really done much although he hasn't started many games, but he is of the pace.
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There is another one out of contract at the top of the starting 11 😉
So I think he means Battersby
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Very important that the players we re-sign and keep are good enough for League 2 or we won’t be ready for next season. We’re going up I feel it.
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For me:
Offer new contracts to: Michee Efete Luke Waterfall Danny Amos Harry Clifton Ben Fox Ryan Taylor
Release: Max Crocombe James McKeown Jordan Cropper Adam Crookes Scott Burgess Giles Coke Evan Khouri Erico Sousa Luke Spokes Lenell John-Lewis Max Wright Luis Adlard Sean Scannell
Keeping Scannell is ridiculous, we can't offer a player a new contract just cos he might get fit sometime next season. I don't know if insurance could cover him through his rehab and we'd give him a glorified trial to prove his fitness?
Max Wright's race is run, as much as it's difficult to say cos we all love the lad to bits but we can't have a player whose modal situation is get an injury, 4 weeks out, gets fit, comes on for 15 mins and looks sharp, gets injured, repeat.
Battersby will be much cheaper than Crocombe and particularly Macca, so it's better off having Battersby as your proper No2 and combining the wages of Macca and Crocombe to find a top keeper at this level, this would be even more necessary if we got promoted. Crocombe has done well but we can find better I'm sure.
Cropper was a coin toss for me but on balance I think he needs replacing. Michee is a bit fragile, he isn't going to play 46 games a season so we need to get a backup right back of pretty good quality and I think if it weren't for Cropper's long throw, we'd say he was out of his depth. It's a useful weapon no doubt but again, I think we can do better.
I think the others all speak for themselves, regardless of which league we're in, I'd keep the same players.
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Can we please stop talking about binning off players when they're part of a squad trying to win the playoffs!
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What happened to ancient GK Sam Russell? - The Twerp put him a 3 year contract until 2023?
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Cropper hasn't put a foot wrong in any of the games I've seen him play. Not one to push forward as Efete (sometimes) does, but that throw is such an asset, that I'd have him starting regardless.
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Cropper hasn't put a foot wrong in any of the games I've seen him play. Not one to push forward as Efete (sometimes) does, but that throw is such an asset, that I'd have him starting regardless.
Yep, (though only judging from what I've seen on videos) Cropper looks ok defensively at this level, and his throw is an asset at any level. So both he and Efete are fit...who starts? (I could see Efete making an effective & mobile CB or a decent defensive midfielder. I could also see him moving to a bigger club. I'll leave that one to PH) Have we really seen enough of Khouri & Adlard to decide they should go? I'd leave that one to PH too. Sean Scannell's injury gutted me at the time ... and I don't feel much better about it now. I posted a bit ago that if he couldn't stay fit till the season's end, we'd have to let him go. Which is what I expect to happen. But I wouldn't criticise the club if they offered him a contract till (say) 31st December - allowing him that time to prove fitness (& enjoy Xmas). We're not likely be able to replace him with anyone with his class and ability imo. I'd make a rubbish manager, I know...
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Even with his injury record I think Scannell should be given a new 1 year deal. He’s a class above NL and probs LG2 should we get there. He’s worth the gamble in my opinion. We carried several injury prone players this season. Out of them he’d be the one I’d keep.
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Cropper hasn't put a foot wrong in any of the games I've seen him play. Not one to push forward as Efete (sometimes) does, but that throw is such an asset, that I'd have him starting regardless.
Have we scored as a direct result of a Cropper throw yet? Can’t think of one; hopefully he’s saved a couple for the play-offs.
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Have we scored as a direct result of a Cropper throw yet? Can’t think of one; hopefully he’s saved a couple for the play-offs.
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Have we scored as a direct result of a Cropper throw yet? Can’t think of one; hopefully he’s saved a couple for the play-offs.
Most teams don't score many goals from corners, either. Doesn't mean it isn't worthwhile having players who are good at whipping a ball in. With my former full-back hat on (one who didn't have a particularly long throw), it's just a massive asset to have available anywhere on the pitch. Getting pinned back in your half and with a throw-in near your own goalline? WHOOSH - you're suddenly challenging for the ball 40 yards upfield instead of nearer to the edge of your box. Near the halfway line? Quick throw down the line to set your winger away, or, if close enough in, chuck it into the box with the defenders up (especially if you're chasing a game). Rose's long throws helped keep us up under Jolley that season when it looked as though we were doomed and it's certainly a very good plan 'B' to have available if you're struggling to play through or around teams. The main thing is to be able to mix it up and not rely too much on any one aspect of play. Cropper looks a decent enough defender to me in addition to his throw and I personally would have him in ahead of Efete who hasn't impressed me as much as he has some others on this board.
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Cropper is more than satisfactory as a back-up defender. Agree his long throws can be a weapon. Other teams use the same tactic to good effect.
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Have we scored as a direct result of a Cropper throw yet? Can’t think of one; hopefully he’s saved a couple for the play-offs.
That's not his fault though, more the other 9 outfield players who aren't taking advantage of it. Considering Cropper joined us mid-season after 9 months out through injury and a whole year since he last played, I think he's been excellent. With a full pre-season behind him I think he'll be a huge asset whatever league we're in next season.
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That's not his fault though, more the other 9 outfield players who aren't taking advantage of it.
Considering Cropper joined us mid-season after 9 months out through injury and a whole year since he last played, I think he's been excellent. With a full pre-season behind him I think he'll be a huge asset whatever league we're in next season.
Just to point out we have scored from it tho, at Barnet by smith
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I've bemoaned our lack of a good throw for what feels like forever so I hope he stays. He's not a bad defender and I don't think he's shown us anything like what he's capable of given his injury troubles so I think he should be kept on.
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Even with his injury record I think Scannell should be given a new 1 year deal. He’s a class above NL and probs LG2 should we get there. He’s worth the gamble in my opinion. We carried several injury prone players this season. Out of them he’d be the one I’d keep.
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The PFA used to pay most of the salary of injured players. I'm sure they do the player insurances.
There’s no way we could offer Scannell a deal if he’s out until at least Christmas, that would be ridiculous.
I’ve no idea what the situation is regarding player insurance but would hope that we look after Scannell through his rehabilitation in whatever way we can.[/quote]
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