Lincoln City v Grimsby Town

Fed up that you haven’t got your football fix this weekend. Then why not make the short trip to Lincoln on Sunday, to support the Grimsby Town Women in their Lincolnshire County Cup semi final on Sunday.

It’s going to be a massive challenge for our women’s team against first class opposition from the FA Womens National League. Huge underdogs that would really appreciate your support.

Come along and cheer them on. They’ll be doing their best to cause a cup upset. Massive challenge and best of luck to them

Lincoln Moorlands Ground
1.30pm kick off I believe

Thanks for considering and UTM

Sounds like a plan. 👍

I’ve tried watching womens football it’s not for me good luck anyway red x away btw

I’d be interested to know how the women’s team have been/reacted since the departure of Dale Houlston as manager, have they sustained their league/cup form? Has their been progression recently or even a  regression since the manager left? Have the appointed a replacement as yet? Are they continuing to sign up good local talent on the playing and coaching aide? As a side note, has it actually been established reported what went on there with the manager leaving the post so quickly, and seemingly completely out of the blue!

What does the future, or at least the next 2-5 years look like for the team in terms of realistic ambitions against sustainable growth plan, these are both Jason and Andrew key strengths in business are t they, building companies and brands from the ground and making them into a success, the future for GTFC women seemed very bright indeed.

Now, of course, I appreciate and recognise the central point and where much of the focus and resources must go is the first team. But does it have to some at the expense of the wider club team, with their progression potentially stunted? I know there ain’t much money in the women’s game t the moment, and chance are the team are losing money, but this stance seems to go against the values and business mindset set out by Jason and Andrew thus far.

Has it actually been established what went on there? All seemed very quick.

I’ll admit, I do fear for the future of the women’s team at the moment. When asked about the future of GYFC Womwn is one of their recent interviews, Jason have quite a lukewarm answer, and not the positive,
Ambitious, strategic answer I might have expected, especially given their syncs on building one inclusive community, unites by a shared love for the club and sport. I’d have thought a progressive women’s teM would for right into that kind of strategy, building links (that have arguably always been missing) with the local young female demographic, inspiring a love for GTFC and female participation in sport. Instead, he kind of brushed it off by saying something along the lines of, ‘they Re excited for the team but the running of it hasn’t been part of the talks to agree on the club budget and, at present was not seen as a priority, as the focus had to go on funding and improving the first team’, I probably haven’t quite captured the right tone but I remember being quite surprised and disappointed with his answer

Hopefully we won’t see a sign if act decline as they sit out of focus.

I think, if I recall correctly, the women’s team were doing very well since their conception and had surprised a few, did they win their league in the first season and get promoted and there was talk at one point bout how far they could go and potentially playing some the sofa called ‘bigger, established women’s teMs, such was their promise and potential.
There seemed a lot of stories and the young female talent we were signing (many of which I taught at Grimsby Institute.it all quite rosy, given the tender age of the team and something potentially quite exciting was building. For the first time ever (at least as far as I can remember) the website was promoting the successes and plan of another team within the club that felt almost on or with the 1st team.

Then, boom and Dale Houlston has resigned as manager with immediate effect, with no real reason give , as far as I recall anyway. I feel like this coincided with the takeover going through but I may have joined up the wrong dots there and mis-remembered. Was Dale a Fenty sympathiser who felt he owed a loyalty to the outgoing non-Chairman?

Chances are this has been explained and I’ve missed it, but what I would say is the above statements regarding his relationship with Fenty is purely a potential theory and is not backed up with evidence at all, they may never have uttered a word for all I know. Just need to cover myself, we know how trigger happy one can get with claims of slander and the like!

In short fella no one gives a excrement about womens football no one cares about dale leaving his role or why he left putting it simply theirs no demand for it.  The only thing that matters is getting out of this excrement league and then possibly hopefully re locating to a new stadium that’s what will help the wider community

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

In short fella no one gives a excrement about womens football no one cares about dale leaving his role or why he left putting it simply theirs no demand for it.

Try telling that to the 41,000 who watched the rearranged FA Cup final at Wembley in December. Women's football is a HUGE growth area in the sport at the moment, so we'd do well to invest and try to climb the leagues now before the women's game mirrors the men's where only the richest clubs occupy the top leagues. It's already starting to happen in the WSL.

*Edit: There is no onus on you to watch women's football, by the way, and I really hope that you're not suggesting that we sacrifice funding for the women's team (and by extension any other team that might represent us) for the sake of the men's first XI.

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

I’d be interested to know how the women’s team have been/reacted since the departure of Dale Houlston as manager, have they sustained their league/cup form? Has their been progression recently or even a  regression since the manager left? Have the appointed a replacement as yet? Are they continuing to sign up good local talent on the playing and coaching aide? As a side note, has it actually been established reported what went on there with the manager leaving the post so quickly, and seemingly completely out of the blue!

What does the future, or at least the next 2-5 years look like for the team in terms of realistic ambitions against sustainable growth plan, these are both Jason and Andrew key strengths in business are t they, building companies and brands from the ground and making them into a success, the future for GTFC women seemed very bright indeed.

Now, of course, I appreciate and recognise the central point and where much of the focus and resources must go is the first team. But does it have to some at the expense of the wider club team, with their progression potentially stunted? I know there ain’t much money in the women’s game t the moment, and chance are the team are losing money, but this stance seems to go against the values and business mindset set out by Jason and Andrew thus far.

Has it actually been established what went on there? All seemed very quick.

I’ll admit, I do fear for the future of the women’s team at the moment. When asked about the future of GYFC Womwn is one of their recent interviews, Jason have quite a lukewarm answer, and not the positive,
Ambitious, strategic answer I might have expected, especially given their syncs on building one inclusive community, unites by a shared love for the club and sport. I’d have thought a progressive women’s teM would for right into that kind of strategy, building links (that have arguably always been missing) with the local young female demographic, inspiring a love for GTFC and female participation in sport. Instead, he kind of brushed it off by saying something along the lines of, ‘they Re excited for the team but the running of it hasn’t been part of the talks to agree on the club budget and, at present was not seen as a priority, as the focus had to go on funding and improving the first team’, I probably haven’t quite captured the right tone but I remember being quite surprised and disappointed with his answer

Hopefully we won’t see a sign if act decline as they sit out of focus.

I think, if I recall correctly, the women’s team were doing very well since their conception and had surprised a few, did they win their league in the first season and get promoted and there was talk at one point bout how far they could go and potentially playing some the sofa called ‘bigger, established women’s teMs, such was their promise and potential.
There seemed a lot of stories and the young female talent we were signing (many of which I taught at Grimsby Institute.it all quite rosy, given the tender age of the team and something potentially quite exciting was building. For the first time ever (at least as far as I can remember) the website was promoting the successes and plan of another team within the club that felt almost on or with the 1st team.

Then, boom and Dale Houlston has resigned as manager with immediate effect, with no real reason give , as far as I recall anyway. I feel like this coincided with the takeover going through but I may have joined up the wrong dots there and mis-remembered. Was Dale a Fenty sympathiser who felt he owed a loyalty to the outgoing non-Chairman?

Chances are this has been explained and I’ve missed it, but what I would say is the above statements regarding his relationship with Fenty is purely a potential theory and is not backed up with evidence at all, they may never have uttered a word for all I know. Just need to cover myself, we know how trigger happy one can get with claims of slander and the like!

I’m sorry you felt the need to ask all of these questions. I thought I’d made it clear previously that my resignation was nothing at all to do with the new owners. I’m incredibly delighted and impressed with the new owners and their activity at the club?

Am I a Fenty sympathiser? I’m not really sure what that means. In general terms, I speak as I find when it comes to people. In my time at the club, I found John Fenty incredibly kind and supportive towards me and the women’s team. And he was one of the first people to contact me to when I resigned, to thank me for my efforts with the women’s football project during my time there, and of course during the time that he was the major shareholder of the club. I’d add, that it was John that I originally directly emailed, when I requested that the club considered supporting me with the launch of women’s football. He was very accommodating, and was immediately all over this, forwarding my email to Ian Fleming and instructing him to embrace this to get it up and running. So in summary my experiences with John were only good ones. I think it’s a bit sad that we have to keep harping on about John. His time here is over and we have some super new owners now, so it’s about time people stopped dwelling in the past and started enjoying the present and the future.

I’m very happy, and fully supportive still of the Womens team and Womens football in general. The intention of my post was to try to gather a bit of support for tomorrows tough game at Lincoln

Best wishes

Dale

Was there ever anything put on the OS re Dale leaving?

Quoted from kafunanapar140909

Try telling that to the 41,000 who watched the rearranged FA Cup final at Wembley in December. Women's football is a HUGE growth area in the sport at the moment, so we'd do well to invest and try to climb the leagues now before the women's game mirrors the men's where only the richest clubs occupy the top leagues. It's already starting to happen in the WSL.

*Edit: There is no onus on you to watch women's football, by the way, and I really hope that you're not suggesting that we sacrifice funding for the women's team (and by extension any other team that might represent us) for the sake of the men's first XI.

The big clubs run a womens team to look like equality matters to them but in reality do you think the sheiks of Man City settle down on a afternoon and watch a game ? Do you think Roman at chelski gives a toss about his ladies team nah I don’t think so …just because sky and others are pushing it doesn’t mean it will sell world wide , until I see the standard improve and the attendances vastly improve I’m not convinced

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

The big clubs run a womens team to look like equality matters to them but in reality do you think the sheiks of Man City settle down on a afternoon and watch a game ? Do you think Roman at chelski gives a toss about his ladies team nah I don’t think so …just because sky and others are pushing it doesn’t mean it will sell world wide , until I see the standard improve and the attendances vastly improve I’m not convinced

Keep going mate and I'm sure you'll get some attention soon.

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

The big clubs run a womens team to look like equality matters to them but in reality do you think the sheiks of Man City settle down on a afternoon and watch a game ? Do you think Roman at chelski gives a toss about his ladies team nah I don’t think so …just because sky and others are pushing it doesn’t mean it will sell world wide , until I see the standard improve and the attendances vastly improve I’m not convinced

I definitely don't think the Sheiks of Man City watch their women's teams, and it'll be very interesting to see what Newcastle's new owners will do with their women's setup, given the cultural standing of women in Saudi Arabia.

But there has always been an underlying interest in women’s sport in this country – football included. Even the most casual football fan should be able to tell you that, before the FA ban, women’s football was hugely popular. During WWI, when the men’s game was obviously suspended, women’s football was watched by tens of thousands – male private, Kerr Ladies FC was the most famous team and for one of their games at Goodison over 50,000 watched.  

Right now women’s football is finally finding its feet again. Sky Sports and the BBC have paid £8million between them in broadcasting deals for the WSL. That’ll move games from the red button and online streaming to mainstream channels, and with it a predicted 300% increase in viewers. Barclay’s also seem to think women’s football is worth investing in: in 2019 they paid £15million to sponsor the WSL for three years, and in renewing their deal last year they doubled that to £30million.

Fair enough if it’s not for you but it’s here and growing fast, and we’d be stupid not to get on board with it.

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

I’ve tried watching womens football it’s not for me good luck anyway red x away btw

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

In short fella no one gives a excrement about womens football no one cares about dale leaving his role or why he left putting it simply theirs no demand for it.  The only thing that matters is getting out of this excrement league and then possibly hopefully re locating to a new stadium that’s what will help the wider community

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

The big clubs run a womens team to look like equality matters to them but in reality do you think the sheiks of Man City settle down on a afternoon and watch a game ? Do you think Roman at chelski gives a toss about his ladies team nah I don’t think so …just because sky and others are pushing it doesn’t mean it will sell world wide , until I see the standard improve and the attendances vastly improve I’m not convinced

Im not sure, a few doubts are creeping in that you are not a fan of women playing football. Its just a hunch. Anybody else get the same feeling? Maybe you think they should all be at home washing the dishes and looking after the kids.

Theres a word for people like you, Sunshine, Be careful what you say. You can upset people, you know.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Im not sure, a few doubts are creeping in that you are not a fan of women playing football. Its just a hunch. Anybody else get the same feeling? Maybe you think they should all be at home washing the dishes and looking after the kids.

Theres a word for people like you, Sunshine, Be careful what you say. You can upset people, you know.

What’s the word sunshine ?

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

What’s the word sunshine ?

Misogynist.  

Quoted from darren9

Misogynist.  

Based on my thoughts on womens football 😳 only on the fishy

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Based on my thoughts on womens football 😳 only on the fishy

No, based on the fact that you post on a site about male football, which you support, but are not interested in women's football. The obvious conclusion is that you are interested in football as long as it is only played by men. As a point of interest do you watch tennis? If so, is it only the male version you watch or do you watch women's tennis as well?

Quoted from rancido

No, based on the fact that you post on a site about male football, which you support, but are not interested in women's football. The obvious conclusion is that you are interested in football as long as it is only played by men. As a point of interest do you watch tennis? If so, is it only the male version you watch or do you watch women's tennis as well?

That would describe me too. I've watched women's football and it did nothing for me.

Does that make me a misogynist?

Quoted from ginnywings

That would describe me too. I've watched women's football and it did nothing for me.

Does that make me a misogynist?

No. You don’t keep banging on about it, like Diaperz

Of course you can prefer men’s football to women’s football and not be a misogynist.

The point is that this was a fairly light-hearted thread posted by Dale, pointing out that our women’s team are playing against Lincoln if anyone fancied taking in a match this weekend, yet for some reason dapperz felt the need to jump on and declare his hatred of the women’s game.

The absolute lack of any reason to do this is why people are questioning him.

Quoted from rancido

No, based on the fact that you post on a site about male football, which you support, but are not interested in women's football. The obvious conclusion is that you are interested in football as long as it is only played by men. As a point of interest do you watch tennis? If so, is it only the male version you watch or do you watch women's tennis as well?

Stop talking crap, I don't watch woman's football because it is very poor quality compared to men's football. If it was anywhere near as good it would possibly get similar crowds but it doesn't.

Are all those that watch mens football and don't watch woman's, misogynists?

Quoted from rancido

No, based on the fact that you post on a site about male football, which you support, but are not interested in women's football. The obvious conclusion is that you are interested in football as long as it is only played by men. As a point of interest do you watch tennis? If so, is it only the male version you watch or do you watch women's tennis as well?

That is not the definition of misogyny at all!

Are you really trying to say the majority of men who don't like to watch women play football are misogynistic? It is a niche sport, lots of women don't like watching women play football. It is just a preference, nothing more nothing less.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Stop talking crap, I don't watch woman's football because it is very poor quality compared to men's football. If it was anywhere near as good it would possibly get similar crowds but it doesn't.

Are all those that watch mens football and don't watch woman's, misogynists?

I watched a bit of womans football during the start the England and Arsenal forward Kelly Smith scoring a worldie of a volley a technique only some men can do.  Then i lost interest as soon as Aluko and her gob started talking shite (womans wages should match the mens).  If the interest isn't there you cant go and force people etc (much to what i felt Aluko was trying to do).

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

That is not the definition of misogyny at all!

Are you really trying to say the majority of men who don't like to watch women play football are misogynistic? It is a niche sport, lots of women don't like watching women play football. It is just a preference, nothing more nothing less.

No it isn't but it could be interpreted as one element of it. It wasn't so much as saying that a majority of men don't like watching women's football, a debatable point in itself, merely that the poster said "nobody gives an excrement about it". That is a very sweeping statement and not true. I watch it and I know quite a few male friends who do.

Quoted from rancido

No, based on the fact that you post on a site about male football, which you support, but are not interested in women's football. The obvious conclusion is that you are interested in football as long as it is only played by men. As a point of interest do you watch tennis? If so, is it only the male version you watch or do you watch women's tennis as well?

Isn't he just discussing the topic at hand (at a slight tangent) on a football discussion forum, happens all the time on here. He has a different view to you.

The women super league attendances do not even match some of the smaller clubs in our league.

Quoted from Gaffer58

The women super league attendances do not even match some of the smaller clubs in our league.

WTF!

“They’re selling bananas cheap at Tescos. Get yourself down there.”
“Bananas are not as good as pork chops.”
“Pork chops are worth more per pound than bananas.

Quoted from Gaffer58

The women super league attendances do not even match some of the smaller clubs in our league.

And your point is?

Folks, stop getting carried away in this debate. Believe me, women’s football at all levels, knows where it is in its development. Especially in regard to small but growing attendances, as well as participation, where growth in female football across the ages is growing more than any other sport in existence.

People in the female game really aren’t making comparisons to the men’s game. They really aren’t. There’s been less than a handful of female pro’s in the world, that have made daft assertions about the need for equal pay etc. Those of us that are sensible and intelligent in the game, know that those outlandish claims are balderdash, for all of the unviable commercial reasons. Apart from those wallies, the vast majority of people in the Womens game do not seek to compare it to the mens game. That would be stupid.

If you took time to know folk involved in the female game, what you would actually find, is great people, that are extremely passionate about their sport, enjoying their sport of choice, and really enjoying being a part of the growth of the female game and the journey it’s going on as it continues to evolve.

You’d also find some extremely gifted athletes, extremely gifted technicians, and equally some average and below average participants too, just like you will in any other sport that is enjoyed by women and men. You’ll find extremely knowledgable people involved in the women’s game, that are first class students of the game. Including some incredibly talented coaches. You won’t find the same level of power or physicality in the Womens game as you do in the men’s game, but, as I’ve said, people that are involved in the Womens game aren’t suggesting that those similarities exist or that those comparisons should be made.

There’s plenty of people out there that struggle to warm to women’s football. Some that are rude about it, and they are mostly men that are, let’s face it, dinosaurs with outdated chauvinistic attitudes to women in sport. Unfortunately we have to live with that. But believe me, that will not be barrier to girls’ and women playing football, and the acceleration in the growth of Womens football will not abate anytime soon.

Nobody is trying to force Womens football on people. My original post was a message to let people know that the Womens team has a big game and huge uphill challenge today. If that resulted in a few more Grimsby fans going along to see them play and support them, then that’s fantastic. If not, we’ll that’s fine too.

The game is being played at Yarwood Sports and Leisure Centre in Lincoln, and it’s a 2pm kick off, and it’s free admission

Good luck to the players’ today in their massive challenge. Do your best in a game where nobody expects you to cause an upset. And hold your heads up high no matter what the outcome is

All the best
Dale
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game is being played at Yarwood Sports and Leisure Centre in Lincoln, and it’s a 2pm kick off, and it’s free admission

Think that should be Yarborough Leisure Centre which is straight off the A15 roundabout.

At the very top level - Arsenal.Chelsea,Man City etc - there are some very good players providing great entertainment.
Although their game is rapidly becoming more popular they cannot expect pay deals any way near the men's game until they generate equivalent revenues.
I would still go & support our girls if I lived anywhere near NE Lincs.
Anyone got the half time score there?

Quoted from Heswall Mariner

Anyone got the half time score there?

It's currently Lincoln 3 Grimsby 1 after 60 mins played

Quoted from rancido

No, based on the fact that you post on a site about male football, which you support, but are not interested in women's football. The obvious conclusion is that you are interested in football as long as it is only played by men. As a point of interest do you watch tennis? If so, is it only the male version you watch or do you watch women's tennis as well?

Personally for me, I’m not into women’s football and I have said so much on this forum before. However, in answer to your question on tennis, I find it a tedious ‘sport’, but I find the women’s game exponentially more entertaining than the men’s, actually.

As for football, I think with me, I’m like most - it’s a tribal thing, in your blood since birth, we watch Town and England because it’s important, rather than being down to a desire to be entertained (good job too!). The men’s game has a 100+ year advantage that will never be caught, and for that reason women’s football will always play second fiddle.

And that 20-0 against Latvia did the women’s game no help at all, and i think the England women’s team probably realise that.

Quoted from Heisenberg

Personally for me, I’m not into women’s football and I have said so much on this forum before. However, in answer to your question on tennis, I find it a tedious ‘sport’, but I find the women’s game exponentially more entertaining than the men’s, actually.

As for football, I think with me, I’m like most - it’s a tribal thing, in your blood since birth, we watch Town and England because it’s important, rather than being down to a desire to be entertained (good job too!). The men’s game has a 100+ year advantage that will never be caught, and for that reason women’s football will always play second fiddle.

And that 20-0 against Latvia did the women’s game no help at all, and i think the England women’s team probably realise that.

Fair points especially about the Latvia game. Certain other countries do take it more seriously and have a longer association with it. I have a granddaughter who is American and it is taught to girls at school from the age of 6. This could be a reason why the USA have produced consistently good teams and players over the recent years. Of course it is still in it's relative infancy over here and will never replace the popularity of the FL pyramid . However I do find some posters very dismissive of a movement to promote womens football at all levels. One poster referred to it as very poor quality with very low attendances. But these are exactly the same points made to me by Premiersh*t team supporters when I tell them I support GTFC - who are a non-league team with an average home gate below 6,000.

Quoted from pizzzza

It's currently Lincoln 3 Grimsby 1 after 60 mins played

Thanks for that Pizzzza.

Quoted from Heswall Mariner

Thanks for that Pizzzza.

It finished 6-1

Just back. Absolutely soaked to the skin and high winds too. Really tough conditions for both sets of players.

For a game where Town weren’t expected to win against FA Women’s National League players, they did pretty well today and certainly didn’t disgrace themselves. Player for player, it was obvious that Lincoln were a class or two above Town, and that’s how it should be given the level they play at. But even so, Town played well in the first half, with a great deal of effort and bravery. They actually took the lead on around 20 minutes through a Dani Brighton finish, and for the most part of the first half looked the better team. Unluckily not to go in 1 nil up and the first half finished 1-1,

Some people I know involved at Lincoln City were very complimentary about Town at half time.

That said, Lincoln had the luxury of keeping a number of their usual starters on the bench, including their very experienced captain Amy Kay, who is a Grimsby girl. They started to bring these players on in the second half, and with a howling wind behind them, Lincoln started to turn up the heat  and it was then pretty much one way traffic and a huge defensive challenge for Town.

It finished 6-1 to Lincoln, deservedly so, and Town’s GK Dani Richardson was a big part of keeping that scoreline down, with a lot of bravery and being prepared to put her body where she would get hurt.

I think the Town team can be quite proud of themselves today. In the big scheme of things, being 5 goals behind a National League team is pretty commendable. Very proud of them, even though they are no longer my players to work with.

As always, massively impressed with Jess Rousseau for Lincoln, a player I had the honour of working with at Boston United Academy. A very intelligent and capable forward with pace to burn

Well done Town. Now go and win that league 👏👏👏

Dale
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Thanks for the update dale