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August 23, 2023, 6:34pm

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Inevitably, Prighozin has met his maker.

Good riddance. Hopefully Putin next.
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An air crash seems a bit more than we usually expect in Russia. People who displease Putin usually have the misfortune to fall out of windows of tall buildings. There weren't a load of other Wagner-ites on this plane, by any chance?
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An air crash seems a bit more than we usually expect in Russia. People who displease Putin usually have the misfortune to fall out of windows of tall buildings. There weren't a load of other Wagner-ites on this plane, by any chance?


If not Wagnerites - 9 people - a completely trifling amount of collateral damage that…on the Putin scale

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August 23, 2023, 11:33pm
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It’s unbelievable it took Putin that long.

Radio Humberside called Fenty a pillock and he had Philip Day cauterising the BBC in under an hour.
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August 23, 2023, 11:41pm

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Revenge is best served cold .  Putin 2023


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The Russian general, Surovkin, who was pally with Prighozin and hasn't been seen since the attempted coup has apparently been relieved of his duties now as well. I suspect that Putin and his cronies have been trying to get to the bottom of exactly who was against them and who wasn't and this has led to the delay in dealing with Prighozin.

Anything which helps to degrade the Russian forces is good with me. If Ukraine was given the aircraft and long-range missiles they required and have been asking for since last year, they'd be able to make a quicker move against the Russian defences. As it stands, we're asking them to fight a war in a way which we would never even attempt and it will mean it is long and drawn out.

Not sure if I've recommended him before, but there's a Professor of Strategic Studies, Phillips O'Brien who posts some really good stuff on twitter and substack. Really interesting to read analysis of what is going on.
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While Russia are getting very little damage in their own country Putin will carry on regardless.

If Ukraine could damage  Russia like they are doing to Ukraine  Putin will come under pressure to end the conflict.

Giving arms to Ukraine with restrictions on where they are allowed to use them is just prolonging the war and more deaths on both sides.

Give them to tools to do the job properly.


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They've got to win their own territory back first, Pete. The Russian army might be in a shambles, but it's still massive and Ukraine only have so many resources. They'll definitely be aiming to get Crimea back, hence the attacks on the Kersch bridge, but otherwise, it doesn't make sense for them to waste much in the way of resources on the Russian mainland which is vast. Hitting a few sites in Moscow with cheap drones is one thing. Using conventional stuff anywhere but the front line (or to hit the Russian logistics) is a waste. Especially when they are reliant on not hitting the mainland to be provided with the F-16s they desperately need.
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It’s amazing the propaganda we receive regarding Russia! If we had a leader like Putin this country wouldn’t be heading towards a 3rd world cesspit.
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It’s amazing the propaganda we receive regarding Russia! If we had a leader like Putin this country wouldn’t be heading towards a 3rd world cesspit.


And the opposition would be dead or in prison along with a lot of journalists and anyone who dares to raise a question about this hypothetical British version of Putin.

So you're saying that Britain needs a dictator and no real democracy.


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