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Can’t say fairer than a vote. Now let’s put it to bed….
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It won, fair enough but can they stop calling it a crest!?
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Great news. Glad 62% of those who voted kept a tiny flag in perspective, saw and understood the benefits and we can all move forward.
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It won, fair enough but can they stop calling it a crest!?
let's vote on it.
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Great news. Glad 62% of those who voted kept a tiny flag in perspective, saw and understood the benefits and we can all move forward.
To put a different slant on it: the new owners who want to ‘build a community’ have managed to split the fan base 60/40 with their first major (needless) change.
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To put a different slant on it: the new owners who want to ‘build a community’ have managed to split the fan base 60/40 with their first major (needless) change.
It wasn’t a needless change though. As discussed there are numerous versions of the badge in use containing: different fonts; fish with/without eyes; FC with/without/with only one full stop; equal/unequal stripes and different thickness of piping/lines around the badge. We finally have a definitive official badge. That needed doing whether you stick a flag on the trawler or not.
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To put a different slant on it: the new owners who want to ‘build a community’ have managed to split the fan base 60/40 with their first major (needless) change.
For someone who always wanted to be rid of Fenty you seem to be very keen to find any negative slant you can about the new ownership.
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Why oh Why vote for it.???????? sadly a done thing
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Fairly clear majority (unless you are Donald Trump)
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To put a different slant on it: the new owners who want to ‘build a community’ have managed to split the fan base 60/40 with their first major (needless) change.
That’s what I would call putting a mischievous slant on it. People can be fully supportive and be 100% part of a community whilst having differences in opinion on any given subject.
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To put a different slant on it: the new owners who want to ‘build a community’ have managed to split the fan base 60/40 with their first major (needless) change.
If they had given us the third option that many requested the result would have probably been one that the majority didn't vote for. The whole thing has been a farce, it's been concluded now so time to move on.
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Great news. Glad 62% of those who voted kept a tiny flag in perspective, saw and understood the benefits and we can all move forward.
What benefits?
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To put a different slant on it: the new owners who want to ‘build a community’ have managed to split the fan base 60/40 with their first major (needless) change.
If any fans feel so aggrieved at a tiny change to a badge that was put to a democratic vote, so much so that they now feel split/disillusioned from the club then there’s probably no helping them. If it’s not this that they’ll kick off about, it’ll be something else.
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To put a different slant on it: the new owners who want to ‘build a community’ have managed to split the fan base 60/40 with their first major (needless) change.
No, the fan base isn't split at all. I like the new badge, but feel it wasn't needed, so wasn't really fussed on the outcome. Its about opinions, and they put it out there, so the majority can decide. I see no reason for any fans to argue, or to carry on, when it was done in the fairest means possible
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It wasn’t a needless change though. As discussed there are numerous versions of the badge in use containing: different fonts; fish with/without eyes; FC with/without/with only one full stop; equal/unequal stripes and different thickness of piping/lines around the badge.
We finally have a definitive official badge. That needed doing whether you stick a flag on the trawler or not.
So you’re saying it could have been done without the flag in the first place to save this bother? Rodley: I’ve been negative about the new owners on this issue alone. It’s been handled so badly from the start and they used up the ‘at least it’s not Fenty’ credit they had built up. I am sick to death of people in positions of power in this country making rules only to break them themselves. Doing that triggered some petty statements from club and designer and we had a bit of an unfair vote between something that exists and something that might exist. It’s over now but they better hope results pick up so they can build up some credit.
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Presumably the flag is there to make a clear differentiator now of it being the new and correct version of the badge. Without it, would be easy to get confused which was which so there had to be SOME visual element that was subtle but different.
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If they had given us the third option that many requested the result would have probably been one that the majority didn't vote for.
The whole thing has been a farce, it's been concluded now so time to move on.
What third option would you have liked?
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What third option would you have liked?
I would have liked to have seen the new version without the flag. All in all, I'm just glad we can draw a line under this terribly managed situation and hopefully the board have learned something.
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I'm amazed this is still going on.
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I would have liked to have seen the new version without the flag. All in all, I'm just glad we can draw a line under this terribly managed situation and hopefully the board have learned something.
I assumed that was what you meant. If the old badge has won the vote it would have received the “digitised” treatment minus the flag. This information was buried at the bottom of the voting article. I’ve spoken to quite a few people who voted for the new badge that wouldn’t have done if they had realised (or read the full article) that the old badge would receive an update if it won. I wonder how many others did? Ah well, now we’re stuck with a daft flag on a trawler I guess. At least it’s sorted now and we can move on.
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Shame really as that flag does look awful, but thats democracy
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Underwhelming transfer business, board members ranting on social media, flag controversies. It’s just like Fenty all over again…
I’m joking, by the way, before anyone has an aneurysm.
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I voted against it. I don’t particularly like the flag. I don’t like the way the whole thing was done. I don’t like the fact that the Trust board members never saw fit to tell the board we should have had a say. I lost. I have to accept it and I do. So no whining and complaining from me. There are more important things at the moment to worry about as far as I am concerned.
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No problem with them adding the 1878, but it should have been on the hull IMO, which is the third option we didn't get.
Other than that, Meh!
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Fairly clear majority (unless you are Donald Trump)
This vote has ignored the validity of the sample,an internet vote is going to eliminate a higher proportion of elder vote who are more likely not to use social media.The people constructing this vote has not assessed sample validity so not really methodologically valid.
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FLAG MEANS FLAG
Flags can be deconstructed.
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Democracy in action, the votes been counted and the new design won. Time to move on.
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Vote for Flagexit
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This vote has ignored the validity of the sample,an internet vote is going to eliminate a higher proportion of elder vote who are more likely not to use social media.The people constructing this vote has not assessed sample validity so not really methodologically valid.
True to an extent as every year goes by, the proportion of people not on the internet at all diminishes. Even social media has its generations. Facebook, with 42 million UK users, is favoured by older people, most over 80s I know are on it. Would very old, non-online people even notice the badge, or care enough to participate in a vote? Maybe a few, but enough to swing the vote? Doubtful.
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So you’re saying it could have been done without the flag in the first place to save this bother?
Rodley: I’ve been negative about the new owners on this issue alone. It’s been handled so badly from the start and they used up the ‘at least it’s not Fenty’ credit they had built up. I am sick to death of people in positions of power in this country making rules only to break them themselves. Doing that triggered some petty statements from club and designer and we had a bit of an unfair vote between something that exists and something that might exist. It’s over now but they better hope results pick up so they can build up some credit.
I think I have seen you posting twice over the weekend about the price of a sandwich you didn't buy? You always seem a pretty calm and rational poster but the highlighted bit above suggests the loss of a bit of perspective here. And I must have built up a lot more 'at least it's not Fenty' credit than you. They've cocked up a minor change to the badge, he took us out of the football league twice, saw off other investors, tried to bring in a convicted fraudster and repeatedly treated us with utter contempt.
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This vote has ignored the validity of the sample,an internet vote is going to eliminate a higher proportion of elder vote who are more likely not to use social media.The people constructing this vote has not assessed sample validity so not really methodologically valid.
You were also able to vote in person at the club shop/ticket office, i believe.
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More than the Brexit vote - out means out - flag means flag Always go with the majority
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More than the Brexit vote - out means out - flag means flag Always go with the majority
Not aware of the concept of ''tyranny of the majority'' then.
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'New crestit means new crestit' 😂
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I voted against it. I don’t particularly like the flag. I don’t like the way the whole thing was done. I don’t like the fact that the Trust board members never saw fit to tell the board we should have had a say. I lost. I have to accept it and I do. So no whining and complaining from me. There are more important things at the moment to worry about as far as I am concerned.
These are my thoughts exactly
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What third option would you have liked?
An iceberg looming on he horizon.
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I think I have seen you posting twice over the weekend about the price of a sandwich you didn't buy? You always seem a pretty calm and rational poster but the highlighted bit above suggests the loss of a bit of perspective here. And I must have built up a lot more 'at least it's not Fenty' credit than you. They've cocked up a minor change to the badge, he took us out of the football league twice, saw off other investors, tried to bring in a convicted fraudster and repeatedly treated us with utter contempt.
I’m not going to blame the owners for private contractor’s pricing structures. It doesn’t seem fair. I don’t think it’s an unfair comment that I’ve made either. I could go further and ask how someone can just ask if they’re allowed to provide something to the club without it being tendered to others to see if anyone else can come up with anything better too? I’m happy to leave it there though. I was unfair to say they’ve lost all their credit on the badge issue. Of course they have have some left - although if the poor run continues…
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Just keep the badge designer away from the design of our new ground. My 5 year old grandson wants a go.
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An iceberg looming on he horizon.
We've already hit it.
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It just isn’t really anything to lose sleep over, it’s a badge, the old one wasn’t amazing anyway…I’d imagine the only people truly annoyed are those that had it tattooed on them…
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No problem with them adding the 1878, but it should have been on the hull IMO, which is the third option we didn't get.
Other than that, Meh!
In Hull. Are we going to invade?
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