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Says it all when China, the world's biggest carbon emitter couldn't even be bothered to send President Xi Jinping.
We need to all work together on "Climate Change" or what's the point.
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Says it all when China, the world's biggest carbon emitter couldn't even be bothered to send President Xi Jinping.
We need to all work together on "Climate Change" or what's the point.
Exactly absolute waste of time, only thing certain to come out of the meeting is the fact we will all be paying more taxes!
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Unless the big polluters like China engage, little can be achieved. That’s not to say we shouldn’t try, but you’ve got to bring them to the table. Sadly the world is now reliant upon China for manufacturing and they know it!
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Despite China’s behaviour I still expect them to meet any token climate target well before the US. Admittedly, China will probably achieve it by strapping solar panels to the back of every Uyghur.
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China are more likely to start World War 3 than cut their emissions as they promise. Then the world will be fooked.
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If China wants to meet climate targets it will achieve it. The populace will do as they are told. China already has the largest solar panel capacity in the world. China will have the technology, means and manufacturing capabilities to achieve their goals. China can make money out of this, whilst strengthening their geopolitical position.
Other countries are are a larger obstacle to change. The OPEC bloc and the USA are a much greater threat to the environment. Only Saudi Arabia and Indonesia have a higher percentage of climate change deniers than the Americans.
I am always shocked when I visit California - supposedly one of America’s most progressive and ‘green’ states - and it is so far behind many European countries in terms of environmental protection and sustainability, it is embarrassing.
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Actually, I heard an analysis on the radio the other day which noted that the fact the Chinese had made a minor change to the wording of their commitment (such as it is at the moment) was a good sign. They don't apparently make empty promises in this regard, so minor changes actually mean something. It's the direct opposite to the way in which most other countries are operating where they make grand promises which they know they are unlikely to fulfil. Whether or not it will be nearly enough is a different matter. The Australians are the ones really taking the urine the most - grand claims for what they'll do which rely on technology which hasn't been invented and at the same time they are opening up coal mines and shipping gas to anyone who'll buy the stuff from them.
The only way to get to net zero is nuclear power - i.e. modern fission reactors - but it is only really a handful of countries (including China) who are seriously building and developing reactors. The chances of somebody suddenly cracking fusion power is miniscule and energy storage is still much too expensive to allow greater use of renewables.
For all the promises, we're taking baby steps and hoping for science to save us in a few decades rather than using the technologies we have now to really make a difference in time.
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There’s an argument that once again, knowing the Chinese wouldn’t attend gives them west another opportunity to stir up anti China rhetoric without too many folk taking it too serious because ‘they’re thinking about then environment and China are not’…
Odd really isn’t it? Especially when you consider the amount of excrement we’ve sent over there to be burned, buried and gotten rid of…
China will undoubtedly do more than they’re ever given credit for, meanwhile, the USA will continue to ignore everything but try and police the world…
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Actually, I heard an analysis on the radio the other day which noted that the fact the Chinese had made a minor change to the wording of their commitment (such as it is at the moment) was a good sign. They don't apparently make empty promises in this regard, so minor changes actually mean something. It's the direct opposite to the way in which most other countries are operating where they make grand promises which they know they are unlikely to fulfil. Whether or not it will be nearly enough is a different matter. The Australians are the ones really taking the urine the most - grand claims for what they'll do which rely on technology which hasn't been invented and at the same time they are opening up coal mines and shipping gas to anyone who'll buy the stuff from them.
The only way to get to net zero is nuclear power - i.e. modern fission reactors - but it is only really a handful of countries (including China) who are seriously building and developing reactors. The chances of somebody suddenly cracking fusion power is miniscule and energy storage is still much too expensive to allow greater use of renewables.
For all the promises, we're taking baby steps and hoping for science to save us in a few decades rather than using the technologies we have now to really make a difference in time.
Save us!! FFS EMERGENCY Let’s all self isolate for 300 days a year? It’s the only way to bring down the carbon footprint and save the planet. We can stop this climate change phenomenon!
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Well, we have outsourced our wind turbine industry to China (and Denmark), so we must have faith in them.
Shame really as we were leading the world in the development of the technology, and it could have provided many more skilled jobs, but you know, easier to let someone else do it and save the bother.
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