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Maringer
August 20, 2021, 4:44pm
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I thought this was an interesting article regarding Newcastle's situation which might shine a light on our own current problems:

https://www.theguardian.com/fo.....een-vaccinated-covid

Lots of the Newcastle players apparently haven't been vaccinated against Covid, despite the fact that one of their keepers was hospitalised with it earlier in the summer and still isn't well enough to resume training. Warnock has apparently stated that most of the Middlesbrough players aren't vaccinated either.

You'd have thought that one or two of the clubs might mandate it, so I wonder if any of them do? We obviously aren't outliers, other than perhaps the fact that we don't have the money to keep as 'Covid secure' as the big clubs.
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I think a footballer should be able to go on holiday whenever they like
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In “normal times” if a footballer (or any professional person) acted in a way that risked their health so that it rendered them incapable of fulfilling their work commitments, they would be disciplined or even sacked, especially if it damaged the business’ income.

Anecdotally, I’ve heard of more under 30s catching Covid lately than older people. If it was just their health that was affected it’s bad enough, but given the risk to others ……


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In “normal times” if a footballer (or any professional person) acted in a way that risked their health so that it rendered them incapable of fulfilling their work commitments, they would be disciplined or even sacked, especially if it damaged the business’ income.

Anecdotally, I’ve heard of more under 30s catching Covid lately than older people. If it was just their health that was affected it’s bad enough, but given the risk to others ……


The first paragraph is interesting, I wonder if insurance is an issue too? Or is it just age? Is it that many a footballer falls under 30 so they’ve only just been able to access it…although I’m sure they could’ve received one should they wish already.

I’m not sure a job can mandate anything like that if it’s not a legal requirement; I know of a schools, especially specialist settings that will advocate Hep B vaccinations, is this likely the only way of ‘forcing’ it. Advise rather than insist. We offer staff the chance for Hep B and Flu jabs should they so wish…

It’ll be interesting to see if not playing games just pisses players off to the point they have it.




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It's hardly surprising when you have people under 30 looking up to twits on social media that twist the words of how the World Economic Forum think the world may look like in 2030 and that the virus isn't real etc.

Whilst clubs may not be able to insist their current squad has the jab, I wonder if any will start to demand new signings have it.

Rumours circulated at the Euros that the vaccine may have caused Christian Eriksen to collapse. I haven't seen his vaccine status confirmed anywhere but it's amazing how quick rumours can spread and leave a doubt in peoples mind.
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It's hardly surprising when you have people under 30 looking up to twits on social media that twist the words of how the World Economic Forum think the world may look like in 2030 and that the virus isn't real etc.

Whilst clubs may not be able to insist their current squad has the jab, I wonder if any will start to demand new signings have it.

Rumours circulated at the Euros that the vaccine may have caused Christian Eriksen to collapse. I haven't seen his vaccine status confirmed anywhere but it's amazing how quick rumours can spread and leave a doubt in peoples mind.


This post proves that the Red Cross thing is bizarre…surely, even if people disagree with what you’ve said it’s not worth the effort to Red Cross it.

You make a valid point…I’ve seen/heard that rumour too, I was sent a link to some story about it by a huge advocate of the vaccine, not some naysayer. I guess we’ll never know. Is it really important for anyone to know his medical history, injuries yes, full medical history, outside of football? No, not really…

I guess over time we’ll probably see clubs try and find loopholes to enforce it…who the intercourse knows…


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This post proves that the Red Cross thing is bizarre…surely, even if people disagree with what you’ve said it’s not worth the effort to Red Cross it.

You make a valid point…I’ve seen/heard that rumour too, I was sent a link to some story about it by a huge advocate of the vaccine, not some naysayer. I guess we’ll never know. Is it really important for anyone to know his medical history, injuries yes, full medical history, outside of football? No, not really…

I guess over time we’ll probably see clubs try and find loopholes to enforce it…who the intercourse knows…


I was starting to doubt seeing that rumour circulate so thanks for clearing up that it did exist!

Whilst there are some people who believe everything the see in the news, whether that's BBC, Daily Mail, The Sun, Guardian or whatever else they read, there are also people that believe everything Karen says on Facebook.

I would like to think that personally, I'm fairly balanced, open-minded and make my own mind up on things.
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Let's face it. Footballers aren't the brightest and half of them are pyramid scheme robots when they're not playing (herbalife etc) so of course they are easlily swayed by conspiracy theories. Take our wonderful central midfielder Daniel Rose for example.


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And so it’s at this point in time when I declare, once again, that while getting double jabbed is a personal choice, the main motivation behind it is protecting each other.

Yes it lowers the risk of you contracting the virus. More importantly, it reduces the risk of others contracting it too. As a ‘team’ I’d like to think that everyone at GTFC can agree on protecting each other.

I’m not a footballer but even if it was Sunday League I’d feel pretty rotten if I was the one who contracted the virus and was the root cause of the postponement - especially if I hadn’t had the two jabs.

I’d feel less bad if I caught it and spread it having had the two jabs, but at least then I’d know I did as much as I could.


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The first paragraph is interesting, I wonder if insurance is an issue too? Or is it just age? Is it that many a footballer falls under 30 so they’ve only just been able to access it…although I’m sure they could’ve received one should they wish already.

I’m not sure a job can mandate anything like that if it’s not a legal requirement; I know of a schools, especially specialist settings that will advocate Hep B vaccinations, is this likely the only way of ‘forcing’ it. Advise rather than insist. We offer staff the chance for Hep B and Flu jabs should they so wish…

It’ll be interesting to see if not playing games just pisses players off to the point they have it.




I see it more like going out and getting shitfaced on your drug of choice and not being fit for work next day. If you were a key employee on whom the rest of the organisation depended for the business to function.

Insurance could become an issue. Or rather premiums. It’s a question of risk management. Prove your organisation managed risk and you get a lower premium.


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