POLICE NOT AT FAULT!!!

Quoted from ancientmariner54

You cannot blame the police for a bunch of brain dead thugs turning up without tickets and forcing their way in .It's way to easy to blame someone else  . They are old enough but obviously not intelligent enough to know better .

Their job isn't it?

Quoted from DB

The troublemakers had to travel to get to Wembley and could have been stopped earlier.

Yeah, the police ‘super powers’ were clearly not working that day. Fancy not knowing what was going to happen 🤨

Quoted from supertown

Yeah, the police ‘super powers’ were clearly not working that day. Fancy not knowing what was going to happen 🤨

What’s happened to the much vaunted “police intelligence”, or failing that, common sense?

100k capacity with only 60k allowed in, stewarded by minimum wage teenagers in the main, for the biggest game in 55 years where tickets were going for thousands at face value? Doesn’t take a genius does it.

The met have seemingly endless resource to crack down on any civil liberties you could name but when it comes to the biggest sporting event on British soil since the 60s, they drop the ball again. I suppose we should be thankful that nobody got Menezes’d given Cressida male private was in charge.

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

I’d like the who ever red crossed this to explain their thoughts then , cmon show some balls and back it up because South Yorkshire police were fully to blame for the loss of 96 pour souls in my eyes

I don’t see the connection between Hillsborough and Wembley 35 years later . I get what you mean but don’t see what bringing Hillsborough into this debate achieves .

Seems to me the major fault if we are blame passing for this sort of event is the level and quality of stewarding and security. Money seems to be the prime consideration and if the sods know security will be lax then they will always take advantage.

Beef it up but then, like the airports, I suppose the cry will be about spectators having to queue for ages.

It is pretty clear there is a substantial number of people who see it as a badge of honour to get free admission to sporting and music events and no doubt travel free on the tube to get there. This has been true for years, I can remember the Millwall, West Ham, Man U, Liverpool, Leeds and Chelsea gangs doing the same thing in the 60s/70s.  But what do we do about such idiots when it takes 5 police to deal with one of these idiots with a “duty of care”……. being careful to not taser his b0ll0cks, kneel on his head or push a flare further up his @rse which would be the reaction of most of us. Water cannon? Next day headline about someone in a mobility scooter enjoying some alfresco refreshment being washed down the road.

I don’t know the answer but I do know the cause. Stupid tw@ts dosed up on drugs and drink.

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

I don’t see the connection between Hillsborough and Wembley 35 years later . I get what you mean but don’t see what bringing Hillsborough into this debate achieves .

Police failure to control a crowd which resulted in the loss of 96 lives and on Sunday police failure to control a crowd which could of easily resulted in fatalities. Plus both the met and SYP who lied about events  and facts to cover up their mistakes and 35 yrs laters the met are doing their best to spin themselves out of it. The police are in place to protect the public they failed at Hillsboro and failed on Sunday that’s the link

Quoted from ska face

What’s happened to the much vaunted “police intelligence”, or failing that, common sense?

100k capacity with only 60k allowed in, stewarded by minimum wage teenagers in the main, for the biggest game in 55 years where tickets were going for thousands at face value? Doesn’t take a genius does it.

The met have seemingly endless resource to crack down on any civil liberties you could name but when it comes to the biggest sporting event on British soil since the 60s, they drop the ball again. I suppose we should be thankful that nobody got Menezes’d given Cressida male private was in charge.

Amazing wasn't it.
If you were a steward why would you even attempt to intervene?
The cowards who attacked the ticketless fan by surrounding him and kicking him in the head whilst laid on the floor were pathetic too.

It’s basically those organising these events penny pinching, don’t want to pay to have police on site so they employ loads of students etc on minimum wage, afraid the same thing was said about the Manchester Arena bombing, no police about but plenty of 18 year old students with high vis jacked on. It’s time proper rules are put into place where there are thousands in attendance. It’s noticeable that politicians, royals etc always have plenty of police around them but Joe public can do with a student.

Quoted from Stadium

Amazing wasn't it.
If you were a steward why would you even attempt to intervene?
The cowards who attacked the ticketless fan by surrounding him and kicking him in the head whilst laid on the floor were pathetic too.

And that sums up in one short sentence why this country is copulated.
I'll take the money but I'm buggered if I'm going to do the job and get my hands dirty.

Quoted from GYinScuntland

And that sums up in one short sentence why this country is copulated.
I'll take the money but I'm buggered if I'm going to do the job and get my hands dirty.

And that in two sentences shows that a lot of people have no idea.

They’re not paid to get involved in violence and they don’t have the powers, training or weapons of the police, and will most likely end up getting prosecuted for assault or wrongful arrest.