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Priti Patel booted into row z.

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She's the Home Secretary so she shouldn't back the police, she should tell them what to do in no uncertain terms and to clamp down on all racism. She should lead from the front and not the rear, if she can't she should resign, or Boris sack her (Ho Ho).



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I was just going to post that link Stadium.

Anyone who still thinks ill of the kneeling gesture is clearly a racist or an idiot or both. I’m sure they’ll try to come squirming back with a mealy mouthed excuse. But there really is no excuse.


What a silly post. I take it the likes of John Barnes, Wilfried Zaha and Les Ferdinand go into your idiot category!
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Great to see the narcissistic Priti Patel put in her place. She must be seething not being able to respond directly.


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So much for GB News viewers love of free speech. Cancel Culture in action 😆

https://amp.theguardian.com/me.....over-taking-the-knee

Just shows that right wingers are the biggest bunch of whinging snowflakes. “ooh I’m really offended by his gesture”. I think the phrases “suck it up” and “grow a pair” are often used in situations like this.


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What a silly post. I take it the likes of John Barnes, Wilfried Zaha and Les Ferdinand go into your idiot category!


Do they think ill if it? Are they actually anti taking the knee or do they just think it doesn’t do any good?

Where do you sit? Are you an idiot or a racist? Or both (there’s a hell of an overlap on that Venn diagram). 😆


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Do they think ill if it? Are they actually anti taking the knee or do they just think it doesn’t do any good?

Where do you sit? Are you an idiot or a racist? Or both (there’s a hell of an overlap on that Venn diagram). 😆


I’m with John Barnes and co, it’s nothing but an empty gesture that detracts from real racism. All they are doing is causing devision it’s BLM politically motivated despite what they say. What’s wrong with bringing everyone altogether by standing up against racism? no one would be against this, except maybe racist’s from the subcontinent and twisted far left antagonisers😆
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I’m with John Barnes and co, it’s nothing but an empty gesture that detracts from real racism. All they are doing is causing devision it’s BLM politically motivated despite what they say. What’s wrong with bringing everyone altogether by standing up against racism? no one would be against this, except maybe racist’s from the subcontinent and twisted far left antagonisers😆


This exactly.

Everyone could see what was coming.

All the years of hard work of governments, football authorities, the PFA, charitable agencies and workplaces all forgotten about because you are either for or against a silly gesture at a football match, which has nothing behind it in terms of legislation or action and has just made things a whole lot worse. To choose such a gesture that is the unique selling point of a vile political movement was sheer stupidity. It is no good the players bleating that they saw the gesture as different to BLM, when the taking of the knee was exactly what the BLM movement was doing. Any other gesture, say with both teams linking arms or some such would have been better if they insisted on bringing the political arena into the sport.

It was an agent provocateurs dream scenario of dividing the country, and as soon as the appropriate moment (from their point of view) came with the black players missing the penalties, they took their anonymous venomous bile to Twitter to cause maximum discomfort.

Twitter is not real life; a lot of the accounts saying despicable things were based abroad and were probably automated, and how stupid of some fans to take to Twitter or other social media straight after the game to say grotesque things they would never dream of saying to any player"s face, but now lets hope they are tracked down and feel the full weight of the law.

A great tournament and the fact that England reached the final has been completely overshadowed by what happened after the final whistle.
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I’m with John Barnes and co, it’s nothing but an empty gesture that detracts from real racism. All they are doing is causing devision it’s BLM politically motivated despite what they say. What’s wrong with bringing everyone altogether by standing up against racism? no one would be against this, except maybe racist’s from the subcontinent and twisted far left antagonisers😆

I think Humbercod you and Kingston do make valid points in the grand scheme of things  but I don't like the sarcasm you sometimes see on here as in life. All it does is wind people up. Granted though if someone gives it out you have to defend yourself or some may walk all over you.

I think Bukayo Saka sums it up though. He is a Christian but reflects other religious denomination views and even that of science.

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Just watched a speech on You Tube by Peter de Vries the Dutch crime reporter who died last night after being shot in Amsterdam. De Vries was perhaps best known for his work on cold cases – ensuring that several high profile murders were finally resolved years after the fact. But he also fought for refugee rights and was a staunch critic of racism and far right politics.

His motto was I thought very relevant to everyone with 'a cause' (anti-slavery, BLM racism etc) to support or a way they wish to conduct their lives

'On bended knee is no way to be free'



On bended knee is no way to be free - Peter R de Vries

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