Lost Points

Quoted from DB

LJL would also benefit from the fan's appreciation following his homecoming.

Classic  

We threw away some vital points, but it had nothing to do with the lack of supporters and everything to do with gifting goals to the opposition via dreadful defensive errors, and wasting what few chances we managed to create with woeful finishing.

Quoted from rancido

If no spectators has had no effect on results then surely by definition there is no advantage to playing at home?

That’s part of it, but the other part of home advantage is bring more familiar with the surroundings and especially the pitch.

Quoted from DB

I haven't defended the way the team has played, indeed I said they were crap. To compare what I said with Sheff United is also factually wrong. Sheff Utd. have drawn only 1 game at home all season and 1 away from home, whereas we have drawn 8 games at home and 5 away from home.

1 goal in any 4 of those 8 would have put 8 points more on the table and we'd be in a better place. It seems to me that I have more faith in our home fans than you. You name our most unpopular player Payne, along with Geen and Waterfall as coming in for stick at home. Clifton has had a reasonable season give the various positions he's been asked to play, and being in front of a home crowd to cheer him on would only be to his benefit. Then what about a rejuvenated Macca, wouldn't he also benefit from a home crowd.

LJL would also benefit from the fan's appreciation following his homecoming. Matete, Menayeses, Lamy, and Coke can only be told by Macca, Clifton,LJL, and others how good the home fans are. I just don't get how negative you are saying the fans would make no difference. As far as I am concerned Town fans are the best and can motivate the team, even the crap side that we have this year.

You want to make a point about the home fans of teams we play away. Not interested in them, nor should you be. This is just a red herring to deflect from your poor view of our great fans inside BP.

You do realise that there's 23 home games in a season and 23 away games for every team in our division, right?   If there's a benefit of fans in BP to GTFC, then there's a benefit for every single home side, in every single game, every single week.  If you're saying 8 extra home points based on our ace fans, then some Southend and Colchester fans are probably thinking the same.







LJL  

Quoted from DB


I haven't defended the way the team has played, indeed I said they were crap. To compare what I said with Sheff United is also factually wrong. Sheff Utd. have drawn only 1 game at home all season and 1 away from home, whereas we have drawn 8 games at home and 5 away from home.

1 goal in any 4 of those 8 would have put 8 points more on the table and we'd be in a better place. It seems to me that I have more faith in our home fans than you. You name our most unpopular player Payne, along with Geen and Waterfall as coming in for stick at home. Clifton has had a reasonable season give the various positions he's been asked to play, and being in front of a home crowd to cheer him on would only be to his benefit. Then what about a rejuvenated Macca, wouldn't he also benefit from a home crowd.

LJL would also benefit from the fan's appreciation following his homecoming. Matete, Menayeses, Lamy, and Coke can only be told by Macca, Clifton,LJL, and others how good the home fans are. I just don't get how negative you are saying the fans would make no difference. As far as I am concerned Town fans are the best and can motivate the team, even the crap side that we have this year.

You want to make a point about the home fans of teams we play away. Not interested in them, nor should you be. This is just a red herring to deflect from your poor view of our great fans inside BP.


You do realise that there's 23 home games in a season and 23 away games for every team in our division, right?   If there's a benefit of fans in BP to GTFC, then there's a benefit for every single home side, in every single game, every single week.  If you're saying 8 extra home points based on our ace fans, then some Southend and Colchester fans are probably thinking the same.





LJL

If you use this logic then Liverpool home fans are no better than Fulham or Brighton fans, yet I recall Klopp saying some months ago how they miss the buzz that the Kop gives his team. In some of our away games the home fans are nearly outnumbered by our travelling fans. Those home fans would be of little use to their team as opposed to the number of travelling fans Town take.

To repeat myself why are you being negative to our home fans. They always cheer, sing, etc. better than any travelling fans the opposition bring. I would have thought that you would have wanted any positive actions to urge the team on.

I see you picked on LJL, not Macca or Clifton. I did not praise LJL but merely used him as an example, as is Macca and Clifton, who used to play in front of crowds at BP; so they could tell the others about the atmosphere they have missed.

The statistics show there is a difference. This season is the first ever where there has been more away wins than home wins in the PL, the stats were shown by Match Of The Day (I think) recently.

The BBC website ran a couple of articles on what grounds players hated going to most and many of them said Anfield because of the crowd and how it affected them as an away player and how the home players thrived on it. A Liverpool player was quoted as saying that they just believed that they couldn't get beaten at home.

No home crowd and Liverpool have their worst run of home defeats in years.

I'm not suggesting that BP is Anfield but it seems crowds do have an influence on results.

This is the 3rd year out the last 4 we've lost more games than we've won at BP.

As for 'R ace atmosphere', I've found BP to be pretty morgue-like for about a quarter of a century!

Away matches must also be easier for away teams when there are no home fans.

Overall, this season the advantages and disadvantages of having crowds even themselves out.

We are bottom because we are not good enough.  Certainly not good enough to hold out for wins at the end of matches.

Listening to JT and Crofty before the game they both said how much the players missed the fans at home games and what the fans brought to the game. Just a thought.

Whether or not home fans influence the outcome is debatable

One thing is sure that today our fans to a man ( and a woman ) would have been on their feet cheering the lads off

It's a shame that after such a great winning performance today we've not been able to show our appreciation but hopefully for once the positive side of social media will get the message to those involved

We get knocked down, but we get up again! This season is not over yet!!

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