Duke of Edinburgh has died

Quoted from codcheeky

Are you searching the web looking for people to be offended by,? surely that is the definition of snowflakery.
Get a grip of yourself, the Royal family is not as popular as you like to think, it has nothing to do with democracy and is completely outdated.  The man has had a long comfortable life and didn't care who he offended or upset , you seem determined to be upset on his behalf.
Carry on tugging the forelock and bowing and scraping if you want to but don't expect anyone else to, especially those who would like us to be a true democracy

I’ve already stated I’m not a royalist do keep up!
Sorry I just don’t think revelling in the death of a 99 year old war veteran who worked tirelessly for this country is something to be ignored. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if you’re one of the wrong - uns that’s jumped to the defence of a drug addict criminal for the last 11 months.

Quoted from ska face

Aren’t we always told that offence cannot be given, only taken?

Bad news for all the snowflakes triggered by Lily Allen I suppose. Perhaps we should wear a black armband for your feelings too.

I’m totally fine with the concept of free speech... not having the right not to be offended! If only your beloved Political party would get on board the country would be in a much better place.

Quoted from Humbercod

And your point Ginny?
No one is saying there isn’t!
The fact is the vast majority slagging the Prince off with vile abuse Proudly align themselves with the left, (genuinely not seen anyone attacking the prince with vile abuse from the right). Unless you want to define the SNP’s as right wing.

Just had a quick look and it’s going on ..... being reported Celtic fans where setting fireworks off during the gun salute, a Guardian newspaper contributor Karen Geier tweeted how saddened she was that Phillip died peacefully, and the lovely  princess of champagne socialists Lily Allen has now had her little pop.

My point?

Well, being of a left wing persuasion and being someone who sees myself as level headed and able to see both sides of an argument, even when I am vehemently opposed to the other side of said argument, I get pretty annoyed when people such as yourself make such sweeping statements as "looney left" and "vile lefties".

But what particularly annoys me is that put side by side with some of the proper vile stuff that has been perpetrated by the right and especially the establishment; the left are mere amateurs in that regard.

The left may spout off on social media, they may go to demonstrations where things can get heated and some stuff may get chucked at the police and a few windows may get smashed and a few lefties may well gets their heads clattered by truncheons. Let's just say a lot of them are angry at the way the country operates and they get a bit heated.

Now let's have a look at the establishment, of which DofE was in the top echelons. How do these people get into their positions of great wealth, power and privilege? Do you think they got there through fair means with a nod and a wink and no blood on their hands. Of course they didn't. Someone, somewhere in their ancestry subjugated some country or other, or some group of people for their own ends.

Some laird or lord of the manor threw all the people off his land and shipped them to the colonies because sheep made more money than people did. Remember the colonies; the very thing that was ruled over by Prince and Queeny? How did we come to rule over all them countries with their natural resources ripe for the picking? We sent our army there to beat them into submission, that's how. I won't even get on to all the workers that have been exploited over the centuries, in this country and others.

We have a country that contains the likes of the Queen and Prince Philip at one end of the spectrum and food banks at the other, yet somehow, the people who see that as truly vile are berated for airing their grievances and attending a few demonstrations.

What really baffles me is that the people at the bottom of the pile lap it all up and think the monarchy are some kind of special human beings, when they are no different than the rest of us. Somehow, we have ended up with this lopsided hierarchical society that folk feel the need to bow and scrape to, when all they are is the descendants of people far more brutal than anything the "loony left" could dream up.

Sorry I got a bit ranty, but I've seen the left and good people like Jeremy Corbyn being painted as social pariahs by the establishment press for years now, as if the the people pointing the fingers are beyond reproach, when they are mostly vile, money grubbing liars, capable of far dirtier deeds than most.

That's my point.

Quoted from ginnywings

What really baffles me is that the people at the bottom of the pile lap it all up and think the monarchy are some kind of special human beings, when they are no different than the rest of us. Somehow, we have ended up with this lopsided hierarchical society that folk feel the need to bow and scrape to, when all they are is the descendants of people far more brutal than anything the "loony left" could dream up.

Ginny theres some valid points in there and thanks for your response.

Iam a green party member and dont think no party has all the answers. Its why I thank God for democracy. Freedom of expression within reason is vital if any country is allowed to move forward in a productive manner.  

The reason why I love the Royals though and yes they have been born into privilege is at least they give this country a identity. The Queen for example trys to be a figurehead of morality and is far better than the newspapers that try to become the think tank of this country.I dont want to talk about Jesus again but in this instance its necessary .She cites him as the person she has most looked up to for moral leadership .

I remember doing a course in Sociology and ultimately  all the what the media are interested in is selling papers even at the cost of most things eg even morality. No journalist is perfect and even in their profession its a dog eat dog world where if you dont do your job right your out of the door and someone is more than willing and waiting to take your place. I remember as well reading John Simpsons book and even the BBC dont give the true facts on the news and on occasion made things up. Point is you cant trust the media completely.

Either way they really need to stop wheeling Prince Andew out to talk to the press. The cynics will think it's a covert/crass attempt to rebrand him.

The thinly veiled attempts to rebrand a nonce through the death of his father gives you an indication of how twisted the firm is.

The ongoing depressing music and continued repetitious ‘documentaries’ is tiresome. He died. It’s sad. Move on...

Significantly more important folk have died over the years to little fanfare...this incessant need to keep putting a dysfunctional family on a pedestal is ridiculous and as stated, the irony in it all is the poorest, most vulnerable in society lap it up...

Quoted from aldi_01

Significantly more important folk have died over the years to little fanfare...this incessant need to keep putting a dysfunctional family on a pedestal is ridiculous and as stated, the irony in it all is the poorest, most vulnerable in society lap it up...

With effort and sacrifice one can change ones circumstances/job  Aldi within reason. Ive known  a fair few people that have changed their lives for the better through sheer will that have come through poverty and other severe disadvantages and are now in jobs they like. Iam not denying its harder but it can be done. In life its all about effort.No effort no results. If you have the ability and the passion for something theres a good chance you will make it.

Quoted from Rick12

With effort and sacrifice one can change ones circumstances/job  Aldi within reason. Ive known  a fair few people that have changed their lives for the better through sheer will that have come through poverty and other severe disadvantages and are now in jobs they like. Iam not denying its harder but it can be done. In life its all about effort.No effort no results. If you have the ability and the passion for something theres a good chance you will make it.

Or just get born into the right family, then you don't even have to try.

Quoted from ginnywings

My point?

Well, being of a left wing persuasion and being someone who sees myself as level headed and able to see both sides of an argument, even when I am vehemently opposed to the other side of said argument, I get pretty annoyed when people such as yourself make such sweeping statements as "looney left" and "vile lefties".

But what particularly annoys me is that put side by side with some of the proper vile stuff that has been perpetrated by the right and especially the establishment; the left are mere amateurs in that regard.

The left may spout off on social media, they may go to demonstrations where things can get heated and some stuff may get chucked at the police and a few windows may get smashed and a few lefties may well gets their heads clattered by truncheons. Let's just say a lot of them are angry at the way the country operates and they get a bit heated.

Now let's have a look at the establishment, of which DofE was in the top echelons. How do these people get into their positions of great wealth, power and privilege? Do you think they got there through fair means with a nod and a wink and no blood on their hands. Of course they didn't. Someone, somewhere in their ancestry subjugated some country or other, or some group of people for their own ends.

Some laird or lord of the manor threw all the people off his land and shipped them to the colonies because sheep made more money than people did. Remember the colonies; the very thing that was ruled over by Prince and Queeny? How did we come to rule over all them countries with their natural resources ripe for the picking? We sent our army there to beat them into submission, that's how. I won't even get on to all the workers that have been exploited over the centuries, in this country and others.

We have a country that contains the likes of the Queen and Prince Philip at one end of the spectrum and food banks at the other, yet somehow, the people who see that as truly vile are berated for airing their grievances and attending a few demonstrations.

What really baffles me is that the people at the bottom of the pile lap it all up and think the monarchy are some kind of special human beings, when they are no different than the rest of us. Somehow, we have ended up with this lopsided hierarchical society that folk feel the need to bow and scrape to, when all they are is the descendants of people far more brutal than anything the "loony left" could dream up.

Sorry I got a bit ranty, but I've seen the left and good people like Jeremy Corbyn being painted as social pariahs by the establishment press for years now, as if the the people pointing the fingers are beyond reproach, when they are mostly vile, money grubbing liars, capable of far dirtier deeds than most.

That's my point.

First off I’d already clarified that my comments were not aimed at the left in general, it was the radicals (but you know this) I have friends and family who would identity as having a left wing point of view just for the record.

So basically the old illegitimate is fair game because he was lucky enough to born privileged, that’s it in your little nutshell!

Dissecting your rant there’s some I’d definitely agree with, but you’ve gone off on this tangent almost as a deflection It seems from the point I made.
Look there was some horrible disgusting comments made and we know where from.... on the day he died as well .... how can you even seriously try defend it? Do you not think about the queen and his family?
If this was Corbo who died for example then yes I’m sure there would be some sharp objects from the right having a pop but I’d be calling them out, And I can imagine that it wouldn’t be with anything like the same kind of ferocity and hate.

Quoted from ginnywings

Or just get born into the right family, then you don't even have to try.

Just out of interest how would your utopian world exist today without people of power?

Would it be a socialist world? No can’t be that the few at top have all the Wealth and power -
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-politicians/hugo-chavez-net-worth/

Would it be communist? No can’t be that the few at the top have all the wealth and power -
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-politicians/presidents/xi-jinping-net-worth/

Hey what about the BLM running the world after all they’re a not for profit Marxist organisation that promote equality -
https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/marxist-blm-leader-buys-1-4-million-home-in-ritzy-la-enclave/

Oops maybe not..... you’d have to help me out with this one.