Rollin Menayese

Let's hope that Mansfield allow Rollin to play against his parent club tomorrow. I know that would have been included in the loan deal when signed.

But just think who may have to play IF he can't play tonight!!!

Scary thought eh?

I don't think it's something the clubs agree on in the deal. I think it's just a rule that loan players cannot play against parent clubs.

Think that's been the case for a long time. Probably since not long after Isaiah Rankin's antics vs Barnsley.

Tonight?!

1. The game is not tonight it’s Saturday.
2. Hurst said on Wednesday he wouldn’t be playing.
3. It’s not a rule that you can’t play against your parent club.
4. It’s an agreement between the two clubs involved in the transfer.

Quoted from HistonMariner

1. The game is not tonight it’s Saturday.
2. Hurst said on Wednesday he wouldn’t be playing.
3. It’s not a rule that you can’t play against your parent club.
4. It’s an agreement between the two clubs involved in the transfer.

It is a rule that they can't play against their parent club in the PL, I thought it was in EFL too

Edit. A player can only play against a parent club with written consent that it is allowed. Default position is they can't play.

Quoted from Heisenberg

Tonight?!

Sorry. Got ahead of myself

Can't believe we're even talking about Menayese being a loss considering the start he had.

What a turnaround he's had since Hewitt came in alongside him, he looks like a completely different player.

Sometimes players just need a good few games to settle in and get back to match fitness,  his certainly proving his worth these last few games.

Would be a good chance for them to see him play tho

Quoted from pontoonlew

Can't believe we're even talking about Menayese being a loss considering the start he had.

What a turnaround he's had since Hewitt came in alongside him, he looks like a completely different player.

I think when he came in, it was the expectation he would be the cultured one of pairing (or even a back three at times).  Waterfall and Pollock are more agricultural in their approach to defending and the two as a pairing was just too basic for my liking.

But I think Menayese struggled a bit initially because it's not his game.  He might be more cultured than Pollock and Waterfall but that's quite a low bar. Having Hewitt as a partner has allowed him to be the more aggressive, old school style defender of the two.  I think the same perhaps in terms of the expectation to be the quick one.  Menayese was loads quicker than Pollock and Waterfall but still not rapid, Hewitt has a bloody quick turn of foot that I think is often understated.  

Menayese is now the one who will attack the ball and do the basics.  Hewitt on the other hand is the one who will mop up the balls behind the back line but also bring it out.  

The last three games it's looked a good pairing, one I don't particularly look forward to see broken up tomorrow.  It's just a shame that we've discovered after 30+ games.  Even five or six games earlier could have left us with a better chance.

Thought he was trash at the start. What a turnaround partnering Hewitt. If only we had that centre back partnership sooner

What a shock that it took a young lad a couple of games to get settled into a brand new team that's struggling at the bottom of league 2 eh.

Quoted from diehardmariner

I think when he came in, it was the expectation he would be the cultured one of pairing (or even a back three at times).  Waterfall and Pollock are more agricultural in their approach to defending and the two as a pairing was just too basic for my liking.

Where were you saying this? Everybody on here was frigging themselves senseless over Pollock at the start of the season and every time I suggested he's not that good I got about 20 red crosses.

  Hewitt and Menayese  have shown themselves to be a very solid and effective central defensive partnership. I don't think we are going to ship loads of goals between now and the end of the season, but the ongoing inability to create more than two or three half decent chances in a game, leading to at best a single goal on a good day, is the ongoing Achilles Heel. 0-0 or 1-1 draws, the occasional 1-0 win, and a few 1-0, 2-0, or 2-1 defeats will still see us relegated. We have actually looked the better team in several games recently and with even a little bit of luck we would have at least 4 or 5 more points, so there is still a bit of hope, but we desperately need a few games where we score more than a single goal. Bring home 6 points from Mansfield and Barrow from a couple of 1-0 wins ( and I honestly think that might happen ) and things could look very different at this time next week.

So who partners Hewitt tomorrow?, I guess it has to be Waterfall (I think Pollock is out)

Quoted from sam gy

What a shock that it took a young lad a couple of games to get settled into a brand new team that's struggling at the bottom of league 2 eh.

Yes what a shock indeed.

Personally I think it would be wrong, and unfair, to write Pollock off yet or be too heavy with criticism.

He's a 19 year old lad. Still developing his game as he gains experience.

He plays in a position where it is rarer for young players to be thrown into the side in their teenage years. He has played all of his football in a team that's either been an average lower half team or a team that's struggled massively at the bottom. And he's still only made about 50 EFL appearances.

Still plenty of potential with him. We're very quick to go over the top with praise just as we are quick to write him off and claim that he's not that good all of a sudden.

Young players can be inconsistent as they're still developing. It wouldn't have helped him being in such a poor team this year that lacks leadership.

Quoted from Tommy

Personally I think it would be wrong, and unfair, to write Pollock off yet or be too heavy with criticism.

He's a 19 year old lad. Still developing his game as he gains experience.

He plays in a position where it is rarer for young players to be thrown into the side in their teenage years. He has played all of his football in a team that's either been an average lower half team or a team that's struggled massively at the bottom. And he's still only made about 50 EFL appearances.

Still plenty of potential with him. We're very quick to go over the top with praise just as we are quick to write him off and claim that he's not that good all of a sudden.

Young players can be inconsistent as they're still developing. It wouldn't have helped him being in such a poor team this year that lacks leadership.

The problem is that in better teams in the league, if one individual has an off-day, or 2 or 3, there is always others around who are be capable of covering for any mistakes. Sadly for most of this season we have had Laurel and Hardy and Abbott and Costello across the back 4, unable to do anything with any conviction. If the players were a little more able, like the 2 current encumbants of the CD position have shown recently, then any errors can be dealt with, and less blame is thrust upon individuals.

Quoted from pen penfras

Where were you saying this? Everybody on here was frigging themselves senseless over Pollock at the start of the season and every time I suggested he's not that good I got about 20 red crosses.

Not me sunshine.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

The problem is that in better teams in the league, if one individual has an off-day, or 2 or 3, there is always others around who are be capable of covering for any mistakes. Sadly for most of this season we have had Laurel and Hardy and Abbott and Costello across the back 4, unable to do anything with any conviction. If the players were a little more able, like the 2 current encumbants of the CD position have shown recently, then any errors can be dealt with, and less blame is thrust upon individuals.

I think it was the Marx Brothers in front of the back four that were the main problem earlier on. Offered no protection, either tracking back, or holding on to the ball or feeding the strikers.

I thought that Meyanese looked good from the start. He had the misfortune to make a couple of conspicuous errors after  2 or 3 games, and some people haven’t been off his back since. Early in the season, I expressed the view that Duncan Idehan was our best central defender. His pace and reading of the game put him well ahead of the others in my opinion. He was thrown into the first game of the season as an untried 18 year old against Walsall, and I felt he was our best player. I thought he maintained that standard for a number of games until he made a couple of significant errors that led to the humiliation of him being substituted at half time in one match. He was widely deemed to be ‘nervous’, and has never had a look in since. My concern is that that he’ll be passed over, and allowed to leave in the Summer.  Given a fair chance, he’d be nailed on to do well somewhere else.