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I’ve always rated Hurst in the recruiting market because of his level of background work, research and scouting he does.
I find watching Hurst at work in the market very exciting. Whereas with Holloway, I just got the feeling it was pot luck, where he would take any name in and give them a try, that his contacts chucked up, but with very little knowledge or research.
To be fair to Ian Holloway as opposed to Paul Hurst has done well at a reasonably high standard at some of his previous clubs . I for one thought he would be a success here and surprised things went pear shaped for him.
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Amazing how many people who thought he was the best manager in the league, are now realising what a lazy charlatan illegitimate Holloway he was
I’m not sure he was necessarily lazy but what he was and still is, is delusional.
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I’m not sure he was necessarily lazy but what he was and still is, is delusional.
he took players on heresay, never vetted them, and took them from his mates.....did you ever read about him being somewhere midweek watching a player? His management of the players was negligent, he is the worst manager in the club's history, and absolute show pony, found out at the very lowest level. He protected his position by his bluffs and lies. If and when we do go down, he will be the main culprit, not on his own, but the main one.
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I'd love to know the real inside story of what happened from late March to late summer.
That first transfer window Holloway absolutely smashed it. Clarke, Benson and Glennon were incredible signings. Even the other lads he brought in like Garmston and Grandin would have been a mark up on what we've had since.
OnThisGTFCDay tweeted out the memory from a year ago when we drew with FGR at home. The football we played for the goals was great stuff. Playing it out from the back, intelligent hold up and link up, players going beyond the front men, a high press, lovely stuff.
It can't just be as simple as we went down the cheapo route, can it? Even on a cheapo route, the recruitment was scattergun. 1 left back in the building and he was a young lad totally wet behind the ears, yet a gazillion midfielders in.
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A good confidence trickster knows how to talk. The right language, the right buttons to press and makes you want to like them. Slowly and very slowly they suck you in, a bit of expectation here and there and then suddenly things go wrong.
Hey it's not my fault I'm a victim just as you are, or is it another line in the masking of their inept ability to do a proper job. Then we discover they are not what they have made themselves out to be and we've been coned.
Too late the damage has been done and they've got away with it. They move on to somebody else, their is always somebody else because they tell about their misfortune and how they, the victim!, were badly treat..
Any names come to mind?????
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Guilty as charged. I too swallowed the hype. Part of it was down to wishful thinking though. I just wanted a savior who would turn it all around for us with his experience and extensive contacts.
Should have listened to the Leicester fans. He took them down to L1 in 2008
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Guilty as charged. I too swallowed the hype. Part of it was down to wishful thinking though. I just wanted a savior who would turn it all around for us with his experience and extensive contacts.
Should have listened to the Leicester fans. He took them down to L1 in 2008
Should've listened to Crystal Palace, Plymouth, Leicester, Millwall and QPR fans!...all called him out for what he is....Sh!te!!..living off what he did for Blackpool. I got completely drawn in by his bluster, thought he was going to be the dogs boll@x...turns out he just talked boll@x!..
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A good confidence trickster knows how to talk. The right language, the right buttons to press and makes you want to like them. Slowly and very slowly they suck you in, a bit of expectation here and there and then suddenly things go wrong.
Hey it's not my fault I'm a victim just as you are, or is it another line in the masking of their inept ability to do a proper job. Then we discover they are not what they have made themselves out to be and we've been coned.
Too late the damage has been done and they've got away with it. They move on to somebody else, their is always somebody else because they tell about their misfortune and how they, the victim!, were badly treat..
Any names come to mind?????
I think that’s a good description. He had most of us conned to a greater or lesser extent. Part of what determines whether or not a conman is successful is the willingness of the victim to believe. We were desperate for a brighter future. We felt we’d earned it. That metaphorical property deal looked too good to miss so we were all drawing down from our metaphorical pension fund of emotion.
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What a conversation it must have been between Holloway and May, 1 conmen trying to convince another conmen. With Mr Fenty stood on the sidelines learning the tricks of the trade ready for his next council meeting.
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Guilty as charged. I too swallowed the hype. Part of it was down to wishful thinking though. I just wanted a savior who would turn it all around for us with his experience and extensive contacts.
Like many of us. I can live with the fact that he was a terrible manager- God knows we've had plenty of those over the years. It's more the fact that he was a charlatan of the highest order that boils my urine. And I hear he's still living in town? I can't believe the nerve.
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