Credit where credit is due.

Quoted from Maringer

Just worth pointing out that Valneva is only running their Phase 1/2 trials at present. Data readout available some time after April 2021 and so we don't know yet if it will work. May well be money down the chute, but let's hope not. I certainly don't mind the government spending a bit of money to support the production of vaccines, especially when you consider how much has been thrown away on dodgy PPE deals and an ineffective track and trace service. Due to the rollout of the other vaccines, get a readout on Valneva's Phase 3 trials will take a while as well, unless they run the trials elsewhere in the world where most aren't immunised. I'd be amazed if anybody got a dose of their vaccine, once approved, much before Christmas.

My guess is that the French will have refused to fund Valneva because they don't manufacture in France and will also have expected that Sanofi's vaccine would work. Unfortunately the Sanofi vaccine candidate flunked out and they are going back to work on it again, increasing the concentration levels so that will be more lengthy trials required in the future. They are going to help produce some of the Pfizer mRNA vaccine in the interim, so not a complete waste.

The UK vaccine taskforce has certainly done an excellent job. Just a pity that the rest of our government has done so poorly in comparison to most of their European counterparts.

Quoted from Humbercod

Is it totally impossible for you to give credit on the vaccine rollout and leave it there, without mentioning the government failures elsewhere that you’ve already mentioned I don’t know how many times.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

“ Britain outside the EU was able to operate as a “speedboat” in securing coronavirus vaccines, the European Commission president admitted today.

In an acknowledgement of Europe’s slow pace of vaccine rollout, Ursula von der Leyen said that operating on its own allowed the UK to move more nimbly to secure supplies.”

and


“ The French government refused to fully fund research by Valneva, a Franco-Austrian startup that has developed its vaccine at its headquarters near Nantes in the Loire region.

Instead, the British backed the development, securing an agreement to supply 60 million doses from a plant in Livingston, West Lothian, starting in October. France won’t get the vaccine until next year.

Franck Grimaud, the company’s chief executive, said that several governments had been contacted at the launch of the project. “The UK responded the fastest,” he said.“


Just a couple of today’s pronouncements from Europe.

I am very happy and grateful to have been able to get my vaccination so quickly.

So far my arm has not withered and dropped off.

Quoted from Humbercod

Is it totally impossible for you to give credit on the vaccine rollout and leave it there, without mentioning the government failures elsewhere that you’ve already mentioned I don’t know how many times.

Quoted from Maringer

The fact that you seem to still be defending the government for their many failings indicates I need to keep mentioning it..

If the government really had 'followed the science' as they claim, we'd be in the enviable position of having lost fewer lives and with less damage to the economy and the wellbeing of citizens with the vaccines still coming through quickly. It's not an either/or situation. The government could have done well during the early stages of the pandemic and then still made the right choices with vaccine procurement. They didn't get the vaccine bit right because everything else was copulated up.

Quoted from Humbercod

Ok captain hindsight 🙄

Quoted from Humbercod

Ok captain hindsight 🙄