Holloway on the local Bristol newspaper

"Ian Holloway: Why I'm in no rush to manage again and why the season must be stopped - Bristol Live" https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ian-holloway-im-no-rush-4847156.amp

Deluded!

What a load of $h1te.

Absolute cockwomble.
Still sticking up for JF. Claiming he was ‘hounded out’.
Not a mention of the serial crook that was the catalyst for all this.  
Still whinging about COVID.
Ironically, it was exactly one year ago today he was at the club shop being lauded by all (including me).  Thank God he’s gone.

Full of shite.

What have the people of Bristol done to deserve to read articles from him?

Fenty’s done us out of £100,000 in his last act as majority shareholder - is it even in his power to do so?

The mans a relic of yesteryear...still blaming Covid.

Professional bullshitter...

Shouldn't think you'll have to worry about deciding whether to take a management job again or not Ian. What a helmet.

Quoted from Civvy at last

Still sticking up for JF. Claiming he was ‘hounded out’.

It dont surprise me that Holloway is sticking up for Fenty. Ive heard from players that as a person Fenty  treated them ok. Give credit where its due.

No mention of the dodgy deal with a crook...

'Hounded out' frankly the guy is not qualified to talk about our club and what we've had to endure for the last 17 years so he should shut his trap.

I've got no respect left for the guy and I was a huge advocate.

Another complete male private head employed by the club in the last 15 years.

No mention of him leaving us in a relegation place, with a poorly prepared and recruited squad.

Also found it strange that he says he's still selling up and moving north.

And still banging on about covid I see.

Watch him craft this story over the course of a few interviews so it starts to make him look like the good guy, he’s so stupid he can’t even tell the same lie twice.

I wonder why he missed out the bit about the convicted fraudster, a squad of 30+ many of whom aren’t up to it and a club in real relegation trouble?

Can’t even be bothered to read it. What acock

Despite everything I think it is covid that has been the major player in all this to be fair.

He wants the season ending now he says, which I think he has wanted since the since the season started to be honest.

It is difficult for an older manager like him with a wife who I think has beaten cancer in the past, so is perhaps more vulnerable. A football manager is not the best occupation for someone who is a covid worrier.

I see Sam Allardyce was on about this the other day (only days after accepting the job in the middle of the pandemic!) although at least there was no covid when Ollie took the job.

What a sad sad state of affairs it has been all round; thank goodness for 2021 and hopefully really good times just around the corner.

Quoted from Davec

What have the people of Bristol done to deserve to read articles from him?

We’ve not although no one reads the Bristol Post it’s shite.

Told all my Gas Head mates what a false profit he was....

Holloway joins the litany of managers whose careers ended at Grimsby.

Lousy illegitimate. Or did he leave because he could no longer dip his bread in the regeneration gravy?

I have never been more disappointed with a town manager than with him.

I thought he had sold his house ages ago that article says it’s still to be done!!! Just to many lies to keep up with! However he says he is still moving up here? Do we believe or care 🤷🏻‍♂️

Last year’s man.

Forget him and move on.

Honestly that bloke always finds a way to get in the media one way or another.

Fame hungry.

Quoted from Rick12

It dont surprise me that Holloway is sticking up for Fenty. Ive heard from players that as a person Fenty  treated them ok. Give credit where its due.

Seriously? Treated them ok?
Sorry, but was I dreaming John McDermott’s book and Podge Amond’s recent interview?
Sorry but that man deserves no credit at all in my opinion

I do have some sympathy with his views over COVID, with infections increasing alarmingly and outbreaks at quite a few clubs, it must leave you feeling vulnerable, not only for yourself but your family (Steve Bruce recently revealed how ill Lascelles and Saint Maximin have been after contracting it). However you wonder if he would have resigned had we been top of the league? It definitely feels like he has used the takeover as a get out clause for the way the squad has been badly mismanaged.

Not at all interested in his ramblings.

Just glad he has gone.

I do get where he’s coming from with Covid and him and his wife being elderly, it will be a real worry as I worry for my folks, but he can’t hideaway from his support of Fenty and the connection with May. He clearly was here for the money....

I have some sympathy with the view that the season should be suspended. After all, three-quarters of England is now effectively in lockdown again. But for Holloway to claim that the current board was being "hounded out" only goes to show me he didn't understand the club, or the fans, anywhere near as well as he claimed to.

Quoted from mariners1

Seriously? Treated them ok?
Sorry, but was I dreaming John McDermott’s book and Podge Amond’s recent interview?
Sorry but that man deserves no credit at all in my opinion

There's a raft of such examples. Pretty much what caused Vernam to go too.

Quoted from Bristol Mariner

We’ve not although no one reads the Bristol Post it’s shite.

Told all my Gas Head mates what a false profit he was....

That's interesting because it is part of BristonLive and owned by Reach which is the company name of the Daily Mirror which also happens to be the owner of  ............... the Grimsby Telegraph.

Reach media journos  share a lot of social media and information across the titles.

I wouldn't be surprised if he does the dirty on his house sale and pulls out. That's the sort of person he is.

Billy Bullshit on Soccer AM tomorrow at 10:00

The more you think about it the more you realise that his tenure was only ever gonna end in tears...

He clearly feel some weird loyalty to Fenty, one can speculate as to why but it doesn’t take a genius to realise it can’t have been a footballing reason.

The man is finished, his bullshit might work for TV and I’m sure he’ll create some weird narrative about him being honest with integrity, not a bottle job but someone who was loyal to the regime...thankfully, he’s been a rotter at enough clubs now to know that football fans with half a brain recognise him for what he is; a bullshitting charlatan.

He will ensure that the narrative is about him and the relationship with the board, sale of the club, not the fact he assembled one of the clubs worst squads, with tactics that are outdated, ineffective and took zero accountability for the shite served up.

We’ve dodged a bullet...

For all the times he rambled on about loving the fans, understanding us blah blah blah blah that article is testament to the fact he both never understood us or was clearly oblivious to the fact Fenty has been largely unpopular with many fans for over a decade. If he knew the relationship between JSF and the fans then surely he wouldn't be surprised he was "hounded out".

I take from it Holloway seems to arrogantly assume his departure was the reason why we wanted Fenty out, his departure was a mere straw that broke the camels back, if even that. It was one of a number of things which highlighted the serious need for change and if he was as Pro Fenty as he sounds then we swerved a disaster.

Fair to add that his performance as Town boss would potentially go against any job offers anyway, so I shouldn't be too bothered about that Mr Holloway.  

Quoted from mariners1

Seriously? Treated them ok?
Sorry, but was I dreaming John McDermott’s book and Podge Amond’s recent interview?
Sorry but that man deserves no credit at all in my opinion

Iam not referring to them sources though but players I have met .Granted Fenty wasnt perfect but Iam sure  has some love for the club.

I’ve met people across football and many a player, not many say a lot when you mention Fenty...some will use a few words, others just roll their eyes.

Thankfully he has gone; alarms should’ve rang for fans when Holloway said Fenty was a good man and the club was well run. He never ever really understood us and it’s obvious it was all just hyperbole. His reason for being here was monetary, a deal with Fenty, the crook and whoever else wanted to soil their reputations...

There’s more to the whole situation and as someone on Twitter pointed out; normally that boring Scottish twit on talk sport, Colin Murray and the likes would normally be all over the shenanigans that have gone on at town...they haven’t. Perhaps they’re worried about their mate?

Quoted from Gainsbro_Mariner

For all the times he rambled on about loving the fans, understanding us blah blah blah blah that article is testament to the fact he both never understood us or was clearly oblivious to the fact Fenty has been largely unpopular with many fans for over a decade. If he knew the relationship between JSF and the fans then surely he wouldn't be surprised he was "hounded out".

I take from it Holloway seems to arrogantly assume his departure was the reason why we wanted Fenty out, his departure was a mere straw that broke the camels back, if even that. It was one of a number of things which highlighted the serious need for change and if he was as Pro Fenty as he sounds then we swerved a disaster.

Fair to add that his performance as Town boss would potentially go against any job offers anyway, so I shouldn't be too bothered about that Mr Holloway.  

and yet the vast majority on here thought he was the best manager we could get.....I stand with Ollie was one laughable thread.  Some of us called for his sacking, and were ridiculed at the time.....

Quoted from aldi_01

The more you think about it the more you realise that his tenure was only ever gonna end in tears...

He clearly feel some weird loyalty to Fenty, one can speculate as to why but it doesn’t take a genius to realise it can’t have been a footballing reason.

The man is finished, his bullshit might work for TV and I’m sure he’ll create some weird narrative about him being honest with integrity, not a bottle job but someone who was loyal to the regime...thankfully, he’s been a rotter at enough clubs now to know that football fans with half a brain recognise him for what he is; a bullshitting charlatan.

He will ensure that the narrative is about him and the relationship with the board, sale of the club, not the fact he assembled one of the clubs worst squads, with tactics that are outdated, ineffective and took zero accountability for the shite served up.

We’ve dodged a bullet...

Yep unfortunately agree. As a fan of, shall we say, mature years I am slightly  ashamed to say I fell for it.
I have to say the whole sorry episode left me feeling as deflated as I ever felt. Thought we were so lucky to have got him in the first place but I think charlatan is now a very apt description.
It has only been the great news of a new regime and the appointment of a pragmatic safe pair of hands that has brought me round. A few days ago I felt like I was lost on a mountain top in sub zero temperatures only to be found and placed against a warm fire!!

The problem with the likes of Holloway is that the old boys network that is the broadcast and written media will give him work for the entertainment value and because he's "a character" (in their eyes not mine) and that's what they believe people want, he talks a lot and says very little.

Though he actually described himself as a "dower Yorkshireman" in the half time interview on Tuesday it was quite refreshing to hear Hurst's interview with Matt Dean yesterday where he gave straightforward answers to the questions asked..      

he probably only wanted to invest with a fraudster an easy 100 grand each could make millions ripping people off with his property developments

Quoted from aldi_01

I’ve met people across football and many a player, not many say a lot when you mention Fenty...some will use a few words, others just roll their eyes.

Thankfully he has gone; alarms should’ve rang for fans when Holloway said Fenty was a good man and the club was well run. He never ever really understood us and it’s obvious it was all just hyperbole. His reason for being here was monetary, a deal with Fenty, the crook and whoever else wanted to soil their reputations...

There’s more to the whole situation and as someone on Twitter pointed out; normally that boring Scottish twit on talk sport, Colin Murray and the likes would normally be all over the shenanigans that have gone on at town...they haven’t. Perhaps they’re worried about their mate?

He did make me laugh a few weeks ago when he said "we need the fans back" looking at the crap that was being served up in the last couple of months I'd suggest that was the last thing he needed, BP is a small ground and we're not usually short of an opinion.

I don't think it is a coincidence that once May's million pounds had gone and with that any chance of making money from his so called regeneration company, Mr Holloway disappeared as well.

Quoted from chipsandgravy

Yep unfortunately agree. As a fan of, shall we say, mature years I am slightly  ashamed to say I fell for it.
I have to say the whole sorry episode left me feeling as deflated as I ever felt. Thought we were so lucky to have got him in the first place but I think charlatan is now a very apt description.
It has only been the great news of a new regime and the appointment of a pragmatic safe pair of hands that has brought me round. A few days ago I felt like I was lost on a mountain top in sub zero temperatures only to be found and placed against a warm fire!!

You're are not the only one. Many others, including myself, thought it was a new start and it was confirmed when we started to get some points. The way it has turned out Is shocking. A successful football club would do wonders for the town and bring some joy to fans who have suffered terribly for many years. Wishing Paul Hurst all the best in the job and I hope we all give him a fair crack of the whip. He has a tough job on his hands.

Quoted from EY Mariner

I have some sympathy with the view that the season should be suspended. After all, three-quarters of England is now effectively in lockdown again.

It has to be a possibility, but with the Euro's scheduled for the summer it seems unlikely that we could end the season late like we did in 2020. I think it's also possible that the season might be terminated early again.

When the L1 ans L2 season was terminated last season there were only 8 games left and so, harsh though it was on some teams, it was argued that the points per game basis was a valid way of determining promotion and relegation. But I don't think you can run that argument if, say, only half a season has been played.

So if the season is terminated it will probably be null and void with no promotion and relegation.  

Quoted from Civvy at last

Absolute cockwomble.
Still sticking up for JF. Claiming he was ‘hounded out’.

Come come my fellow Mariners, you have to accept that John Fenty has indeed been hounded out.

The majority of you have revelled in that belief since the statement confirming we’ve got heads of agreement in place for the sale of his shares. The volume of congratulatory back slapping over the notion of your achievements is immense. So come now, stop criticising that horrible little Holloway bloke for saying it as it is on that score.

In terms of the rest of it, well I agree that Holloway is deluded. He was failing. No, more than that, he failed.

I’m still firm in the belief that he was sacked, that he paved the way to cleverly orchestrate his own sacking. That he did so in a manner that gave him a get out. That the board agreed to announce that he’d resigned, rather than lose face by being publicly sacked. I also believe there to be financial benefits to the club in terms of his contract in allowing this.

One thing which I think is Holloway rubbish in that news column, is the bit where he says he’s buying a house up here and will remain up north. I do not believe that for a minute. I believe it just suits him to say that for now.

Edit: John hasn’t gone yet though and won’t do for three years

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Edit: John hasn’t gone yet though and won’t do for three years

What do you mean?

The little bit that caught my eye was that Fenty selling "made his mind up".....that indicates to me he was already well down the path towards quitting anyway.

I have not seen him make any reference yet to Mr. Mays existence ......which given this was a significant factor in the whole affair means to me he knew and fully was on board with it all.

One of his early Bristol columns after he first arrived here said he was investing as a commitment to the project and as he thought he could improve our position he could make some money on the investment.

All joining up to paint not a pretty picture overall.

Quoted from heppy88

What do you mean?

Wind up 😕

Quoted from heppy88

What do you mean?

Well first and foremost, the consortium have reached agreement to pay off his loans over three instalments over three seasons haven’t they? That makes him still a significant, if not the most significant, stakeholder in the business. Don’t confuse the term stakeholder with shareholder.

For all we know, and we don’t yet, he could as part of the deal, remain a director of the business until such a time that his loans are paid off. You need to remember that you don’t have to own shares in a business in order to be an executive director or none executive director of it. It may well be in his interest to remain on the board whilst the business still owes him money.

Quoted from heppy88

What do you mean?

John, knowing he had time on his hands after losing his role at the council and giving up the club , in a last act as major shareholder awarded himself the day to day maintenance contract at Blundell Park, on a 3year contract.

Expect to see him around the place with a paintbrush and silicon gun to hand.

Quoted from heppy88

What do you mean?

Until he gets all his money back probably.

Quit, left, gave up, retired, hounded out. Whatever you want to call it  he was a poor owner and is leaving with all his cash back, so no sympathy from me.

Quoted from heppy88

What do you mean?

Don't panic Mr Manwaring, it's reference to the fact that his loans are being repayed over 3 years..
Mr Noche is a Fenty lover,think we all know that and will not be happy that his inglorious leader is on his way out of the club..

........."IF John Fenty was hounded out".  What comes before that?  His appalling behaviour over many years, culminating in a convicted fraudster nearly coming onto the Board.

Then nex came a collective and instant decision by fans that he was "well past his sell-by date". Such views expressed and discussed.  A democratic right in this country.

All actions inevitable as night follows day (Although not that Day).

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Come come my fellow Mariners, you have to accept that John Fenty has indeed been hounded out.

Yes, he was. And rightly so.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

........."IF John Fenty was hounded out".  What comes before that?  His appalling behaviour over many years, culminating in a convicted fraudster nearly coming onto the Board.

Then nex came a collective and instant decision by fans that he was "well past his sell-by date". Such views expressed and discussed.  A democratic right in this country.

All actions inevitable as night follows day (Although not that Day).

Can you please explain to the rest of this forum how a convicted fraudster nearly came onto the board?

But in the meantime someone else on the forum may help you out by explaining how this fear was never ever possible.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Can you please explain to the rest of this forum how a convicted fraudster nearly came onto the board?

But in the meantime someone else on the forum may help you out by explaining how this fear was never ever possible.

Yeah, we get that he wasn't allowed to be on the board but he would have been a very large shareholder and that was not acceptable to the majority of fans, except for a few with no scruples, such as yourself it seems.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Can you please explain to the rest of this forum how a convicted fraudster nearly came onto the board?

But in the meantime someone else on the forum may help you out by explaining how this fear was never ever possible.

Well never mind. At least the unveiling of Mr May allowed everyone to see what was happening.

If May purchased these shares him and Fenty would have owned 60% of the club. 2 very dangerous people owning most of the club and that would have been concerning.

Quoted from ginnywings

Yeah, we get that he wasn't allowed to be on the board but he would have been a very large shareholder and that was not acceptable to the majority of fans, except for a few with no scruples, such as yourself it seems.

You fail to realise that nowhere in his interviews, or in Phil’s, was it confirmed that his investment was going to be in GTFC shares

It was investment in the town, in state of the art training facilities. That did not have to be GTFC as the owners of the facility, merely as chief users of the facility in which he invested in and got ROI.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

You fail to realise that nowhere in his interviews, or in Phil’s, was it confirmed that his investment was going to be in GTFC shares

It was investment in the town, in state of the art training facilities. That did not have to be GTFC as the owners of the facility, merely as chief users of the facility in which he invested in and got ROI.

Academic now though as he’s gone and so has that finance

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

You fail to realise that nowhere in his interviews, or in Phil’s, was it confirmed that his investment was going to be in GTFC shares

It was investment in the town, in state of the art training facilities. That did not have to be GTFC as the owners of the facility, merely as chief users of the facility in which he invested in and got ROI.

And what you fail to realise is that no right minded fan gives a toss what he was bringing to the club. He is a many times over convicted criminal and fraudster who has no place at our club or in our town. As if he was just going to give a million pounds because he's a nice bloke who suddenly developed an affinity to a failing league 2 football club. My ar$e.

Too many at the club know the price of everything and the value of nothing, and they all need to go pronto.

Thanks for the answers.

I guess we all believed Fenty would be gone from the club. But, could any agreement keep Fenty at the club, in an influential role, until his loans are paid off, or beyond?

Quoted from ginnywings

And what you fail to realise is that no right minded fan gives a toss what he was bringing to the club. He is a many times over convicted criminal and fraudster who has no place at our club or in our town. As if he was just going to give a million pounds because he's a nice bloke who suddenly developed an affinity to a failing league 2 football club. My ar$e.

Too many at the club know the price of everything and the value of nothing, and they all need to go pronto.

The interview he gave with Burnsy was hilarious.

"I have developed an affinity with football clubs in the East Midlands"

Or as I interpreted it; he keeps rocking up at clubs in the East Midlands and we were the most gullible so far.

Quoted from heppy88

Thanks for the answers.

I guess we all believed Fenty would be gone from the club. But, could any agreement keep Fenty at the club, in an influential role, until his loans are paid off, or beyond?

Yes absolutely

If you own a business and have loans, then believe me, your lenders have an interest and elements of influence in your business.

Interesting times ahead

Lovely to chat again guys. Have a good evening.

Edit: you might say that the consortium are keeping Fenty around for you, by not paying off his loans in one go.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Yes absolutely

If you own a business and have loans, then believe me, your lenders have an interest and elements of influence in your business.

Interesting times ahead

Lovely to chat again guys. Have a good evening.

Edit: you might say that the consortium are keeping Fenty around for you, by not paying off his loans in one go.

I’m surprised the fans aren’t publishing videos asking the consortium to pay John Fenty’s loans off up front, as well as questioning why they can’t ?

What puzzles me is to how Alex May was going to pay for these shares.If he had any assets surely the police would be looking to recover them under the Proceeds of Crime Act unless of course he had concealed his assets.Had they come to light at a latter date the Authorities could have confiscated them leaving them to have a share in G.T.F.C..

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

You fail to realise that nowhere in his interviews, or in Phil’s, was it confirmed that his investment was going to be in GTFC shares

It was investment in the town, in state of the art training facilities. That did not have to be GTFC as the owners of the facility, merely as chief users of the facility in which he invested in and got ROI.

Alex May was interviewed by David Burns on his BBC Radio Humberside show the Monday after the story broke & May himself clearly stated his proposed investment would have been in the form of £1 million of newly issued shares. So you are wrong.

Quoted from friskneymariner

What puzzles me is to how Alex May was going to pay for these shares.If he had any assets surely the police would be looking to recover them under the Proceeds of Crime Act unless of course he had concealed his assets.Had they come to light at a latter date the Authorities could have confiscated them leaving them to have a share in G.T.F.C..

There’s nothing to suggest that his current wealth is a result of ill gotten gains.

Neither is there anything to suggest the £1 million was going to be invested by way of GTFC share purchase.

See above

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

There’s nothing to suggest that his current wealth is a result of ill gotten gains.

Neither is there anything to suggest the £1 million was going to be invested by way of GTFC share purchase.

See above

[url]https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alex-may-grimsby-town-shares-4795647[/url]

And here's more proof. Alex May's statement to the Grimsby Telegraph. Which again says his investment would have been in a share purchase.

From Alex May's statement....

"Fit and Proper Persons Test as set by the EFL preclude me from being a director. Notwithstanding that I would like to acquire some shares in the club and help its relocation plans to come to fruition and understand that will be a matter for the club’s board of directors."

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

I’m surprised the fans aren’t publishing videos asking the consortium to pay John Fenty’s loans off up front, as well as questioning why they can’t ?

Am I the only person that is also curious how the consortium is going to pay the three instalments?

Will this be through money they are going to introduce into the business from their personal wealth?

Loans that they require repaying maybe?

Do they expect GTFC to generate the financial means to make these payments?

Interesting times

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

I’m surprised the fans aren’t publishing videos asking the consortium to pay John Fenty’s loans off up front, as well as questioning why they can’t ?

‘Can’t’ or ‘Won’t’. ??  Makes sense to spread out the payments if possible. That’s probably why they are so successful.
And I didn’t say JF wasn’t hounded out. Just that IH came across as if it was a bad thing. Strangely enough, the man who normally gobs off in spades omitted to say why this happened.
And if I thought I played a part in ‘hounding out JF I would sleep very soundly indeed 😄

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

You fail to realise that nowhere in his interviews, or in Phil’s, was it confirmed that his investment was going to be in GTFC shares

It was investment in the town, in state of the art training facilities. That did not have to be GTFC as the owners of the facility, merely as chief users of the facility in which he invested in and got ROI.

So a fraudster sets up a training facility and GTFC are the biggest customer?

May said he wanted to invest in the football club as he’s looked at a couple before Town, also these days a million arguably won’t get you “state of the art” as that “art” is pretty high level when you look at the top end of the game.

In terms of JF getting “hounded out” all I can say is what cones around goes around and despite Day’s assertions that a small part of the fan base was dissatisfied he was wrong.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

There’s nothing to suggest that his current wealth is a result of ill gotten gains.

Neither is there anything to suggest the £1 million was going to be invested by way of GTFC share purchase.

See above

I might feel reassured if that statement came from a forensic accountant. Please stop insinuating that the board had taken the moral high ground.,had not some concerned person been so appalled by what was going on and tipped the press off,and forced the Club's hand they would have happily gone ahead with the transaction.
Do you think it is morally acceptable to accept a large amount of money from a man convicted of defrauding financial institutions out of millions,do you not think this money should not have gone to make reparation.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

[url]https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alex-may-grimsby-town-shares-4795647[/url]

And here's more proof. Alex May's statement to the Grimsby Telegraph. Which again says his investment would have been in a share purchase.

Oh hell, if I was a board member I’d have known that. What a foolish fraud I must look now 😉

Quoted from friskneymariner

I might feel reassured if that statement came from a forensic accountant. Please stop insinuating that the board had taken the moral high ground.,had not some concerned person been so appalled by what was going on and tipped the press off,and forced the Club's hand they would have happily gone ahead with the transaction.
Do you think it is morally acceptable to accept a large amount of money from a man convicted of defrauding financial institutions out of millions,do you not think this money should not have gone to make reparation.

I’m sure the law will have exercised its powers in respect of Mr Mays bank accounts and assets once convicted. I doubt they would have left him with anything that wasn’t rightfully his.

Fillipe Noche,

Can I ask, would you have preferred John Fenty to have stayed over the new consortium? If so, why?

Sorry if this has been covered previously... direct me to it if so!

People also seem to have missed the terminology Mr May used in terms of the investment.

He was at pains to point out that he looks after investments on behalf of others. In a sense like a broker or a driver for investors.

Was it his own money he was investing? Or was he in the business of placing investments on behalf of others ?

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

I’m sure the law will have exercised its powers in respect of Mr Mays bank accounts and assets once convicted. I doubt they would have left him with anything that wasn’t rightfully his.

As long as all of his dodgy dealings had come to light!

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Oh hell, if I was a board member I’d have known that. What a foolish fraud I must look now 😉

Oh dear. The sad WUM slipped up and is now trying to wriggle out if it.
Your routine was quite amusing at first.  But it’s getting quite boring now.  I’ve fed this particular troll more than I should have.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

People also seem to have missed the terminology Mr May used in terms of the investment.

He was at pains to point out that he looks after investments on behalf of others. In a sense like a broker or a driver for investors.

Was it his own money he was investing? Or was he in the business of placing investments on behalf of others ?

Wasn’t his conviction to do with looking after people’s investments?

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

I’m sure the law will have exercised its powers in respect of Mr Mays bank accounts and assets once convicted. I doubt they would have left him with anything that wasn’t rightfully his.

It is not unheard of for assets to be hidden offshore and I am sure that a person with several convictions for very complex frauds would be aware of this.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

People also seem to have missed the terminology Mr May used in terms of the investment.

He was at pains to point out that he looks after investments on behalf of others. In a sense like a broker or a driver for investors.

Was it his own money he was investing? Or was he in the business of placing investments on behalf of others ?

If it was all squeaky clean, above board and without taint why did John resign from his role on the committee thing with the council?

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Am I the only person that is also curious how the consortium is going to pay the three instalments?

Will this be through money they are going to introduce into the business from their personal wealth?

Loans that they require repaying maybe?

Do they expect GTFC to generate the financial means to make these payments?

Interesting times

I think the reason they wish to pay in installments is because they are parting with a significant amount of money and it allows them to reduce that risk if worse things come to light with the business.

I'm not insinuating there is anything untoward going on, but given his recent business dealings nothing would surprise me.

The plan might be for player sales to take care of the loans but I'm sure it's well thought out.

Quoted from thefish

Fillipe Noche,

Can I ask, would you have preferred John Fenty to have stayed over the new consortium? If so, why?

Sorry if this has been covered previously... direct me to it if so!

I’d have no problem at all with John Fenty. From the point of view of him being a safe pair of hands, financially the club was and is safe. Yes we have to ride the waves highs and lows, and in a football sense I appreciate the lows are more prevalent. But that really isn’t intentional and I don’t think he can be accused of not trying. Let’s face it, everyone (mostly) thought he’d played a blinder when Holloway had arrived.

He’s worked incredibly hard to try and deliver on the stadium. Prior to Covid setting this back yet again, the Freeman Street prospects look or looked promising.

So in summary I had no problems with John.

In terms of the consortium. I have no problem with them if they are going to support equally as well financially, or better.

Their approach to the John Fenty loans intrigue me though. Do they not have the personal wealth to pay those off on day one? Which would give me a lot of confidence in them. To me it smacks of them buying us, but still needing JF

Quoted from friskneymariner

It is not unheard of for assets to be hidden offshore and I am sure that a person with several convictions for very complex frauds would be aware of this.

And how does one bring offshore money legitimately back into a British corporation without then revealing that money?

Quoted from jamesgtfc

I think the reason they wish to pay in installments is because they are parting with a significant amount of money and it allows them to reduce that risk if worse things come to light with the business.

I'm not insinuating there is anything untoward going on, but given his recent business dealings nothing would surprise me.

The plan might be for player sales to take care of the loans but I'm sure it's well thought out.

Is your preference that revenue from player sales goes towards paying off loans rather than being used to increase the budget or strengthen via permitted income in terms of salary cap etc?

So another pathetic attempt by Fenty’s sock puppet to stir up people to question the takeover. This time wanting Fenty’s loans paid off in one go. Another epic fail from an epically failed regime.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

So another pathetic attempt by Fenty’s sock puppet to stir up people to question the takeover. This time wanting Fenty’s loans paid off in one go. Another epic fail from an epically failed regime.

That’s made me smile

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

And how does one bring offshore money legitimately back into a British corporation without then revealing that money?

Believe me  there are numerous businesses on the East Coast that have been brought with and used to launder drug money from various parts of the country.

Alliterative arithmetic

Fenty = Fraudster’s friend
Felipe = fraudster’s friend
Fenty + Felipe = failure
Felipe = nincompoop