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Now we have been guaranteed a payout. Any chance the board fancies getting us an assistant manager. You know- like every other professional football club!
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good idea salford. Ollie has stated he doesnt have time for much, he keeps out the way from contracts and getting rid, and he doesnt seem to be getting things right on the training ground, AL had a great repore with the players, i think GTFC are regretting letting him go , just to save some money. Would love to have him back to pick up the moral in this Club. TRhings have gone downhill a bit with fitness, and Anthony was keen on that, so i reckon a quick phone call to him would be a nice idea. Only my opinion, as i see the fitness levels in the Club at a dismal low. Maybe the fitness guide has put Hanson back, due to the wrong exercises, who knows. But Town were quite fit when AL was here. I,ll get me coat
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I Though that what Ben Davis is?
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I Though that what Ben Davis is?
All but in name .
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All but in name .
And pay, no doubt.
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good idea salford. Ollie has stated he doesnt have time for much, he keeps out the way from contracts and getting rid, and he doesnt seem to be getting things right on the training ground, AL had a great repore with the players, i think GTFC are regretting letting him go , just to save some money. Would love to have him back to pick up the moral in this Club. TRhings have gone downhill a bit with fitness, and Anthony was keen on that, so i reckon a quick phone call to him would be a nice idea. Only my opinion, as i see the fitness levels in the Club at a dismal low. Maybe the fitness guide has put Hanson back, due to the wrong exercises, who knows. But Town were quite fit when AL was here. I,ll get me coat
Who says it's anything to do with money? You think the board got rid of a member of staff that Holloway wanted to keep? I can believe they wouldn't give funds for hiring somebody new, I can't believe they'd get rid of somebody that Holloway thinks is important to his plans.
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I thought the Limbrick departure had been done to death already on here?
Holloway didn't want to lose him. Nor did the board/Fenty get rid of him behind Ollie's back.
They didn't set out to "get rid of AL to save money" directly. Although i guess indirectly that's what happened.
The club wanted all staff to take pay cuts. The players agreed but then changed their mind after direction from the PFA. But all the non-playing staff were still being put on the 20% (wasn't it?) pay cut. Limbrick didnt think this was right or fair if the players weren't on a pay cut. (Hard to argue with that principle IMO). So he said he didn't accept having his money cut and was subsequently put on furlough, whilst i think notice was served for termination of his employment.
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It’s only been a few months with no assistant manager, we went a few years with no chairmen, so in the clubs eyes there’s no rush.
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Ollie said again tonight that he hasn't got time to show players what he wants from them (in answer to a question about Jackson and Sisay). That suggests he needs more support. Ben Davis not being formally the assistant manager....and don't most clubs at this level have a manager, assistant and first team coach. Like we did before Limbrick left.
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I thought the Limbrick departure had been done to death already on here?
Holloway didn't want to lose him. Nor did the board/Fenty get rid of him behind Ollie's back.
They didn't set out to "get rid of AL to save money" directly. Although i guess indirectly that's what happened.
The club wanted all staff to take pay cuts. The players agreed but then changed their mind after direction from the PFA. But all the non-playing staff were still being put on the 20% (wasn't it?) pay cut. Limbrick didnt think this was right or fair if the players weren't on a pay cut. (Hard to argue with that principle IMO). So he said he didn't accept having his money cut and was subsequently put on furlough, whilst i think notice was served for termination of his employment.
Presumably then when his employment was terminated we saved his salary (less any compo). Now we're in the position of having to replace him either for 80% of what he was on or the same as what he was on. So we've not achieved anything.
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Presumably then when his employment was terminated we saved his salary (less any compo). Now we're in the position of having to replace him either for 80% of what he was on or the same as what he was on. So we've not achieved anything.
Well we've achieved not having his expertise for the last few months. Bravo
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December 8, 2020, 11:39pm |
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I thought the Limbrick departure had been done to death already on here?
Holloway didn't want to lose him. Nor did the board/Fenty get rid of him behind Ollie's back.
They didn't set out to "get rid of AL to save money" directly. Although i guess indirectly that's what happened.
The club wanted all staff to take pay cuts. The players agreed but then changed their mind after direction from the PFA. But all the non-playing staff were still being put on the 20% (wasn't it?) pay cut. Limbrick didnt think this was right or fair if the players weren't on a pay cut. (Hard to argue with that principle IMO). So he said he didn't accept having his money cut and was subsequently put on furlough, whilst i think notice was served for termination of his employment.
I can tell you for a fact IH was quite scathing of AL after he had gone.
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I can tell you for a fact IH was quite scathing of AL after he had gone.
It's getting rid has worked out well for Ollie then.
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I can tell you for a fact IH was quite scathing of AL after he had gone.
Ok. Not publicly though, was he? Do you mean scathing because of him leaving and not accepting the pay cut? Or in terms of his abilities?
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I think the fact that Ollie brought more players in after ALs departure would suggest it wasn’t about 20% of AL’s salary.
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Ollie said again tonight that he hasn't got time to show players what he wants from them (in answer to a question about Jackson and Sisay). That suggests he needs more support. Ben Davis not being formally the assistant manager....and don't most clubs at this level have a manager, assistant and first team coach. Like we did before Limbrick left.
If he hasn't got time to show players what he wants what on earth does he do with his time besides telling us how good he is.
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If he hasn't got time to show players what he wants what on earth does he do with his time besides telling us how good he is.
He obviously means he hasn't got any full weeks on the training ground. Play Saturday, Sunday off, one day to prepare for Tuesday. Play Tuesday, Wednesday off, two days to prepare for Saturday, We don't normally play a game every Tuesday in a normal season. That's got to affect sides with lots of new players and a new manager, more than it does teams who are more established in their squads and management. He's also trying to establish a more possession based game- can't be easy at the moment. On top of that, a lot of them are inexperienced at this level and need more coaching.
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Time to get a proper assistant
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He obviously means he hasn't got any full weeks on the training ground. Play Saturday, Sunday off, one day to prepare for Tuesday. Play Tuesday, Wednesday off, two days to prepare for Saturday, We don't normally play a game every Tuesday in a normal season. That's got to affect sides with lots of new players and a new manager, more than it does teams who are more established in their squads and management. He's also trying to establish a more possession based game- can't be easy at the moment. On top of that, a lot of them are inexperienced at this level and need more coaching.
I suggest he takes less time off and bloody quickly too!
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Ollie said again tonight that he hasn't got time to show players what he wants from them (in answer to a question about Jackson and Sisay). That suggests he needs more support. Ben Davis not being formally the assistant manager....and don't most clubs at this level have a manager, assistant and first team coach. Like we did before Limbrick left.
Perhaps thats the problem. I don't think we've ever had more than a manager an assistant manager doing all the coaching on the playing side. Ben Davies was brought in when Jolley departed and stayed on when Ollie came in, and that period is the only one in recent memory that i can think of where we had a manager, assistant manager and a coach on the books at the same time. Guess you could add Doig to that list, when he was player coach under Scott and Hurst for a very brief moment in time.
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I suggest he takes less time off and bloody quickly too!
I would imagine IH works 7 days a week in one form or another. The player's need rest and recovery days, so that only leaves 3 days a week to work on training and tactics for two different opposition teams. That's if our training ground isn't flooded of course.
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I am surprised with all his contacts in the game he hasn't asked for temporary help from someone who has worked with him before - for free of course in our case!
Somebody out of work must be out there that would help a mate, surely?
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Ok. Not publicly though, was he?
Do you mean scathing because of him leaving and not accepting the pay cut? Or in terms of his abilities?
I heard about off the record comments to some of the press after a game, I believe he was having a go about him not accepting a cut in salary and about him not moving to the area but the way it was said sounded as if he wasn't bothered that he had gone.
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