Did town ‘take the knee’?

I support the base premise of BLM. We should resist racism and any form prejudice, although, we all are prejudice by our very nature. We should not accept people being judged on the colour of their skin, their religion, their gender, secual preference or the any way they wish to live. Provided they are doing no harm or provoking any hate to any peaceful group in society.

I think BLM has started to grow beyond what it's initial intent was and quite a lot of that makes me feel uncomfortable.

I keep reading/hearing things like there should be X number of black premier league managers or X number of black board members on certain companies boards etc.

I do not agree with this as I think this is going against the very thing BLM initially stood for. They are after an equality of outcome which cannot work and may even be dangerous. If you say there should be say at least 10 black premier league managers, that will mean you will be appointing people primarily based on the colour of their skin into those 10 jobs. That is the very definition of racism and obviously, totally against the aims of BLM.

What we should be striving for is equality of opportunity. That is everyone gets an equal opportunity to be what they want to be, not everyone will succeed but the opportunity to do so should be there.

It's difficult. I consider myself to be someone who is against racism, homophobia, sexism or any type of prejudice like this but I know by daring to criticise what the BLM is becoming will make me appear racist in some people eyes.

Quoted from ska face

Exhibit A, your honour.

Just absolutely, mind-bendingly triggered because someone dare let others make a silent, 10 second protest once a week. The land of free speech indeed.

I think its been done to death but if Lewis Hamilton wants to kneel in a patch of oil on the grid every two weeks thats up to him. What I do object to is the clenched fist 'Black Power' salute many employ.

A step too far in my eyes

Why? Don’t tell us you object to what it “symbolises”, as that is almost entirely subjective.

Quoted from cardiffmariner

Why not?

Lots of red crosses but no answer. I suspect it’ll be assumed I’m a lefty liberal bleeding heart blah blah blah, but I’m genuinely interested as to why you think none of our players should take a knee. Their choice, their freedom of expression. Maybe you could have a chat with some of our black players about it and see what they think?

Quoted from pizzzza

I guess you have calculated this using absolutes right? Either that or you have taken your info from one of those dubious Facebook memes. Given that African-Americans make up only 14% of the US population you might consider calculating a relative amount to make your point (which I suspect is not valid).

Everyone knows how statistics can be bent anyway people want them to be, but it is a fact that more white people have been killed by Police than Black people.

Quoted from 123614

Everyone knows how statistics can be bent anyway people want them to be, but it is a fact that more white people have been killed by Police than Black people.

Are you being deliberately thick, or does it just come naturally to you?
172 white Americans killed by u.s. police in 2020 as opposed to 88 blacks, however the white population  represents 60% of the american population whilst blacks make up less than 15 per cent.
So if there was no issue youd expect to see c.43 blacks killed, but no, its double that number, which suggests they might have something of an issue.

Are you being deliberately thick, or does it just come naturally to you?

Very rude!  Mess with stats all you like, still more dead white people than black.

Quoted from forza ivano

Are you being deliberately thick, or does it just come naturally to you?
172 white Americans killed by u.s. police in 2020 as opposed to 88 blacks, however the white population  represents 60% of the american population whilst blacks make up less than 15 per cent.
So if there was no issue youd expect to see c.43 blacks killed, but no, its double that number, which suggests they might have something of an issue.

However when you then compare that to the numbers that come into contact with the police the stats show you’re more likely to be killed if you’re white. However it’s a long, complicated subject that a ‘stat’ either way will not tell the whole story.

Quoted from pontoonlew

However when you then compare that to the numbers that come into contact with the police the stats show you’re more likely to be killed if you’re white. However it’s a long, complicated subject that a ‘stat’ either way will not tell the whole story.

Therefore confirming that racism is rife, as you are much more likely to be stopped if you are black than if you are white.

Quoted from ginnywings

Therefore confirming that racism is rife, as you are much more likely to be stopped if you are black than if you are white.

Which is kind of the point I’m making, these things can go back and forth forever with different stats showing different things.

As somebody posted, you can be anti racism whilst still thinking the BLM movement are actually having a negative impact, not a positive one.