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Rob_in_Grimsby
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Welcome! 3 year deal big committment. Utm
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Good intel from Coddy 👍

Great that we are gambling on young prospects from non league. Can unearth some real gems.

I hope people are patient with the boys that are new to the pro game.  
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Welcome Montel you will enjoy your time here I am sure.


                             Over 36 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner.
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Big step for him but good news

Now I just want Holloway to land George Williams


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Incidentally what is George Williams position. Is he a left back??
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Attacking CM I think...
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Quoted from forza ivano

Spotted this...

"This might be a bit self-congratulatory but we, as fans, really helped to get the best out of Montel. We sang songs about him, we made him feel like a hero, and he thrived on that - you could see it visibly lift him."

Any ideas ??

Welcome to GTFC Montel



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Dont think any on there suitable for a Christian guy though...
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Quoted from Ipswin
Big step for him but good news

Now I just want Holloway to land George Williams


Happier now?
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Happier now?



Happier about Williams than I am about the other three


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Happier about Williams than I am about the other three


Fair enough. Suppose one is good considering!
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Fair enough. Suppose one is good considering!


Usual misunderstanding of my post

I meant he is the best of the signings, the one who is proven and injuries aside which one cannot predict, will need the least work to fit in and deliver, the lad is class

The Tunisian bloke is a potentially dangerous red card collecting nutter and the other two are making such a huge step up in class that both must be rated huge risks



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Usual misunderstanding of my post

I meant he is the best of the signings, the one who is proven and injuries aside which one cannot predict, will need the least work to fit in and deliver, the lad is class

The Tunisian bloke is a potentially dangerous red card collecting nutter and the other two are making such a huge step up in class that both must be rated huge risks


Why do you consider them to be ‘huge’ risks?
They won’t be on massive salaries and we need numbers at low cost.
They clearly have potential and if they don’t work out what exactly are we risking?
There is a risk involved in any deal - I just don’t see why these deals are any more risky than normal especially in the current climate.
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From Ipswin (and he may be right   )


“The Tunisian bloke is a potentially dangerous red card collecting nutter and the other two are making such a huge step up in class that both must be rated huge risks“

But isn’t this why we love GTFC.??, it’s always an unpredictable ride!  
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Fair enough. Suppose one is good considering!


Go on Swin, give us a smile!

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Swins right of course, not a popular opinion but very true. These new strikers could be Liam Hearn or Robles/Cardwell
If it's Hearn we strike gold with the Hanson partnership, if it's Robles and Hanson gets injured we're in trouble.
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Why do you consider them to be ‘huge’ risks?
They won’t be on massive salaries and we need numbers at low cost.
They clearly have potential and if they don’t work out what exactly are we risking?
There is a risk involved in any deal - I just don’t see why these deals are any more risky than normal especially in the current climate.


Because scoring even double figures in FL2 is a bit different from knocking them in for fun at Folkestone Invicta and halesowen. They aren't going to top the Div4 swcoring charts any time soon (if at all)
What are we risking? Well not cash obviously, we don't pay anyone much of a wage (in fact Holloway might have smooth talked the two non league lads into paying us for letting them sign!) but they will be taking up two of the strikers slots on which we will be relying so much. Hanson can't do it all on his own.




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Because scoring even double figures in FL2 is a bit different from knocking them in for fun at Folkestone Invicta and halesowen. They aren't going to top the Div4 swcoring charts any time soon (if at all)
What are we risking? Well not cash obviously, we don't pay anyone much of a wage (in fact Holloway might have smooth talked the two non league lads into paying us for letting them sign!) but they will be taking up two of the strikers slots on which we will be relying so much. Hanson can't do it all on his own.




Thought we had a salary cap not a numbers cap
And surely signing players with a history of injury is just as big a risk
I’m not disagreeing with your arguments about their potential to fail just the terminology ‘huge risk’ which seems a bit dramatic and carries with it implied criticism
Still I guess if they fail you can say I told you so and if they succeed no one will are what you said

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Because scoring even double figures in FL2 is a bit different from knocking them in for fun at Folkestone Invicta and halesowen. They aren't going to top the Div4 swcoring charts any time soon (if at all)


Why not?
Jamie Vardy - Fleetwood?
Lee Gregory - Halifax?

Take your point re: risk and step up in class but there are lots of examples where it has worked
I think under Ollie (a man who has bags of experience, done great things with Blackpool, polished many rough diamonds) they stand a great chance of making the grade
Liam Hearn: think I am correct in saying he took 10/11 matches before his first goal? And then he was off... and if not for injuries I am convinced he'd have been L1 minimum

Williams is the safest bet for being a success cos he obvs has experience and a touch of class at this level; his injuries are a concern, but he is the type of player we need

I have always felt that a goal scorer is a natural 'animal' - you can't teach someone to have an eye for goal... it's instinct (Podge?)
This is why we need  a couple of creatives in midfield who can supply the ammunition...and then players like Gibson and Jackson will score bagfuls!
Williams, Tilley, Benson (come on Ollie - you know more than you are saying!)
UTM!




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there's a few others that made it from non league, and of course there are some that just didn't quite make the step up.  

Michail Antonio was at Tooting & Mitching
Chris Smalling was at Maidstone
Callum Wilson was at Kettering
Danny Ings was at Dorchester
Jermaine Beckford was at Wealdstone




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Quoted from Meza


there's a few others that made it from non league, and of course there are some that just didn't quite make the step up.  

Michail Antonio was at Tooting & Mitching
Chris Smalling was at Maidstone
Callum Wilson was at Kettering
Danny Ings was at Dorchester
Jermaine Beckford was at Wealdstone




The higher the % coming up from non league into L2 & L1, more might make into the Championship and Premiership.


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there's a few others that made it from non league, and of course there are some that just didn't quite make the step up.  

Michail Antonio was at Tooting & Mitching
Chris Smalling was at Maidstone
Callum Wilson was at Kettering
Danny Ings was at Dorchester
Jermaine Beckford was at Wealdstone




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it is a risk, but i think any side with hanson in it is going to score/create chances. bloke won more headers than anyone in the league by a country mile and was out for 2 months
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Hanson was even winning headers that he had no right to win, teams regularly doubling or even tripling up on him and he still won the ball more times than not.
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Hanson was even winning headers that he had no right to win, teams regularly doubling or even tripling up on him and he still won the ball more times than not.


Sorry but Hanson was often marked out of the game by fair means or foul, when doubled up on he had games where he won virtually nothing in the air or at his feet and his first touch was no better than most decent strikers. Good player but not a world beater.
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Sorry but Hanson was often marked out of the game by fair means or foul, when doubled up on he had games where he won virtually nothing in the air or at his feet and his first touch was no better than most decent strikers. Good player but not a world beater.


If he was a world beater he would not be at BP!

It looked to me that the problem was more with the other players not taking advantage of Hanson being double marked. Holloway changed that quite a bit and we saw more of Vernam as a result.



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If he was a world beater he would not be at BP!

It looked to me that the problem was more with the other players not taking advantage of Hanson being double marked. Holloway changed that quite a bit and we saw more of Vernam as a result.



Agreed. When teams started to double up on Hanson we needed The other players to take more advantage.
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