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aldi_01
April 2, 2020, 8:16pm

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I mean we all had a level of blind optimism that this might not be as big a deal as we were being led to believe but you’d hope the custodian of business such as a football club would’ve still been a tad more cautious than ‘we thought we’d be playing again in April’...


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I mean we all had a level of blind optimism that this might not be as big a deal as we were being led to believe but you’d hope the custodian of business such as a football club would’ve still been a tad more cautious than ‘we thought we’d be playing again in April’...


To be fair to Me Day , he might well have taken his lead from a self confessed medical expert and one of the world's greatest minds, who said hed have America fully open for business by Easter
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Teams in Div 1 and further down the pyramid rely primarily on season-tickets income.  Many people
fans) are losing their jobs or having severely-reduced income.  They are not likely to have disposable item for non-essential living costs such as season-tickets. (Even though they would like to have one).

This position will apply to most teams who do not receive substantial TV income.  
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April 2, 2020, 9:22pm
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Teams in Div 1 and further down the pyramid rely primarily on season-tickets income.  Many people
fans) are losing their jobs or having severely-reduced income.  They are not likely to have disposable item for non-essential living costs such as season-tickets. (Even though they would like to have one).

This position will apply to most teams who do not receive substantial TV income.  


One would envisage, and in some way hope, that this leads to a more economic approach to football in this country with admission prices falling along with transfer fees and player wages. In truth in the bottom two divisions there may not be so much opportunity to make these cuts but maybe getting £4K a week in Div 2 as some are reportedly on, more perhaps at certain clubs a la Salford, will be a thing of the past. All clubs will be using up any cash reserves they have hence transfer fees should plummet, about bloody time, and hopefully salaries for those on mega bucks will also come down.
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You know throughout all this I'd totally forgotten about our club's vulnerability to this crisis; most of the focus has been on clubs in already dire positions.  I suppose we're in the hands of the football authorities now, let's hope they can pull something out of the bag, starting with the PFA agreeing to a nationwide pay cut.  If they can't, it could be a massacre.
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One would envisage, and in some way hope, that this leads to a more economic approach to football in this country with admission prices falling along with transfer fees and player wages. In truth in the bottom two divisions there may not be so much opportunity to make these cuts but maybe getting £4K a week in Div 2 as some are reportedly on, more perhaps at certain clubs a la Salford, will be a thing of the past. All clubs will be using up any cash reserves they have hence transfer fees should plummet, about bloody time, and hopefully salaries for those on mega bucks will also come down.
A worldwide recession/depression is coming which should deflate the football bubble somewhat.  I don't know why I'm counting on that though, didn't happen in 2008.
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If ALL GTFC staff have been furloughed then who is posting on the OS and on the various social media sites?

The government furlough scheme is for companies to put staff who would otherwise be laid off on and the government (taxpayer) pay 80% of their wages whilst they are not working until the business re-engages them. It is not a scheme for businesses (football clubs or otherwise) to get the taxpayer to ultimately pay 80% of employee salary and keep them working.

I can only assume the "all" is not strictly true as any business will need a basic skeleton staff to keep things ticking over.
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In defence of the club, it doesn't matter if they were naive or not in expecting things to return to normal by early April.  It wouldn't make any difference to the situation now.  The fact is that no-one could have anticipated this was going to happen, I'm not sure how much of a rainy day fund you can hold onto just in case a worldwide pandemic strikes and all income streams are effectively stopped.

It's reasonable to expect that we might get a drop in gates if form is poor, it's reasonable to expect a temporary cash flow situation if a host of games are called off in a bad winter.  But no-one could have expected that we suddenly would end the season two months early and then potentially be faced with a summer without any season ticket sales.

It's just unprecedented.  
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The club needs all the fans help they can give to get through this disaster. Fortunately for GTFC they have an incredibly loyal and supportive fan base which can only be a positive.


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April 3, 2020, 10:52am
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To be fair to the club, if they’re looking for government help they’re hardly likely to be shouting that they suspected the season wouldn’t restart and have planned accordingly.
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Quoted from GollyGTFC
If ALL GTFC staff have been furloughed then who is posting on the OS and on the various social media sites?

The government furlough scheme is for companies to put staff who would otherwise be laid off on and the government (taxpayer) pay 80% of their wages whilst they are not working until the business re-engages them. It is not a scheme for businesses (football clubs or otherwise) to get the taxpayer to ultimately pay 80% of employee salary and keep them working.

I can only assume the "all" is not strictly true as any business will need a basic skeleton staff to keep things ticking over.


You must remember it's the highly inaccurate GT reporting.




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