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TownSNAFU5 |
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I try to take a reasonable and pragmatic view on life (although with GTFC emotion impacts as well).
Given the choice of having John Fenty in charge or “any other random option”, then I would have chosen the latter.
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Northbank Mariner |
February 28, 2020, 5:25pm |
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I'll happily consider myself a "Fenty Basher" as to me that means holding him to account, so I'll bite a the ridiculous question and your flimsy grasp on reality. This reminds me of the saying "My keys were in the last place I looked!" Of course, it was the last place you looked as you are not going to keep on looking. The same goes for taking control of the club when the ITV digital struck, we don't know whether someone else would have come in should Fenty not have wished to take it forward. How many clubs actually went out of business never to be seen again because of ITV digital? He has "kept" putting money in, he hasn't put any in for years now!
So he's got 20 years of free entry and hospitality into every single Town game, and it's not cost him a penny, he's even made money out of the club due to the Trust shares that he bullied out of them.
We are not Bury so you can not compare our situation to theirs, That's like saying Ian Huntley wasn't so bad because Hitler was worse!
I am not prepared to take 20 years of Fenty's shite he has served up "on the chin" we as fans deserved better than being treated as maggots and scum by JF. I will never EVER be happy with being a lower Lg2/Conference Team.
Well my friend you need to wake up and smell the coffee...the days you yearn for are long gone, the reality of where we are is not all Fentys fault....it's the way world of football and our location, downturn in local industry, the local economy suffering dire consequences and no big yin chucking his money at our club....live you're life in the past, thinking town deserve better because of history, but ultimately the club represents the state of the town. Down on its luck and has been for more years than I care to remember...
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rancido |
February 28, 2020, 5:34pm |
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I'll happily consider myself a "Fenty Basher" as to me that means holding him to account, so I'll bite a the ridiculous question and your flimsy grasp on reality. This reminds me of the saying "My keys were in the last place I looked!" Of course, it was the last place you looked as you are not going to keep on looking. The same goes for taking control of the club when the ITV digital struck, we don't know whether someone else would have come in should Fenty not have wished to take it forward. How many clubs actually went out of business never to be seen again because of ITV digital? He has "kept" putting money in, he hasn't put any in for years now!
So he's got 20 years of free entry and hospitality into every single Town game, and it's not cost him a penny, he's even made money out of the club due to the Trust shares that he bullied out of them.
We are not Bury so you can not compare our situation to theirs, That's like saying Ian Huntley wasn't so bad because Hitler was worse!
I am not prepared to take 20 years of Fenty's shite he has served up "on the chin" we as fans deserved better than being treated as maggots and scum by JF. I will never EVER be happy with being a lower Lg2/Conference Team.
That is complete bollo*!! So what have you done to secure the future or indeed help to maintain the everyday running of our club, apart from attending games?
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lew chaterleys lover |
February 28, 2020, 5:41pm |
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Well my friend you need to wake up and smell the coffee...the days you yearn for are long gone, the reality of where we are is not all Fentys fault....it's the way world of football and our location, downturn in local industry, the local economy suffering dire consequences and no big yin chucking his money at our club....live you're life in the past, thinking town deserve better because of history, but ultimately the club represents the state of the town. Down on its luck and has been for more years than I care to remember...
That sounds like the 70's 80's and 90's when we were doing pretty well for long periods! With great leadership any business can adapt to a different climate and thrive. We never had the leadership and didn't adapt. We spent a lot of the Fenty era chasing a dream and spent too little time on practicalities. He thought at the time he was doing the right thing which is fair enough but it didn't work out.
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KingstonMariner |
February 28, 2020, 5:41pm |
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John never wanted anyone else helping out. It weakens his control. We’ve seen that with Mike Parker, the arm-twisting of the Trust to give up shares, the lottery guy, Operation Promotion, so-called “tyre kickers”. I’ll believe he’s stepping back when I see it. Since the announcement on Tuesday he’s appeared at the fans’ forum. Hardly stepping back. But it’s early days, so we’ll see what happens in the coming months.
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February 28, 2020, 5:45pm |
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The list of football clubs that have entered adminstration over the years is staggering. I never realised there had been so many.
Bradford City 1983 Charlton Athletic February 1984 Middlesbrough 21 May 1986 Tranmere Rovers 1987 Newport County 1989 Walsall 1990 Northampton Town 1992 Kettering Town 1992 Aldershot 1992 Maidstone United 1992 Hartlepool United 1994 Barnet 1994 Exeter City 1994 Gillingham 1995 Doncaster Rovers 1997 Millwall 21 January 1997 Bournemouth 1997 Crystal Palace 1998 Chester City October 1998 Portsmouth 1998 Hull City 7 February 2001 Queens Park Rangers 2 April 2001 Halifax Town 9 April 2002 Bradford City 16 May 2002 Notts County June 2002 Barnsley 3 October 2002 Leicester City 21 October 2002 Port Vale 16 December 2002 York City 18 December 2002 Derby County 20 October 2003 Ipswich Town] 10 February 2003 Wimbledon 5 June 2003 Darlington 23 December 2003 Bradford City 27 February 2004 Wrexham 3 December 2004 Cambridge United 29 April 2005 Rotherham United 13 May 2006 Crawley Town 5 June 2006 Boston United 25 April 2007 Leeds United 4 May 2007 Luton Town 22 November 2007 Bournemouth 8 February 2008 Rotherham United 18 March 2008 Halifax Town 26 March 2008 Darlington 25 February 2009 Southampton 2 April 2009 Stockport County 30 April 2009 Chester City 17 May 2009 Northwich Victoria 15 May 2009 Farsley Celtic 30 June 2009 Salisbury City 3 September 2009 Weymouth 28 October 2009 Crystal Palace 26 January 2010 Portsmouth 26 February 2010 Plymouth Argyle 4 March 2011 Rushden and Diamonds 7 July 2011 Darlington 3 January 2012 Portsmouth 17 February 2012 Port Vale 9 March 2012 Coventry City 21 March 2013 Aldershot Town 2 May 2013 Bolton Wanderers 13 May 2019 Bury 18 July 2019
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KingstonMariner |
February 28, 2020, 5:52pm |
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The vast majority are above us in the League (especially excluding the likes of Salisbury, Weymouth and other non-League clubs, or clubs that only have a shallow Football League history).
So next time someone says “we should be grateful we’re not Bury”, show em that list.
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aldi_01 |
February 28, 2020, 5:59pm |
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John never wanted anyone else helping out. It weakens his control. We’ve seen that with Mike Parker, the arm-twisting of the Trust to give up shares, the lottery guy, Operation Promotion, so-called “tyre kickers”.
I’ll believe he’s stepping back when I see it. Since the announcement on Tuesday he’s appeared at the fans’ forum. Hardly stepping back. But it’s early days, so we’ll see what happens in the coming months.
This 100%. He’s just letting a puppet run the show whilst controlling said puppet. He won’t step back, he’s said all this before. Absolute codswallop, all of it.
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Northbank Mariner |
February 28, 2020, 6:02pm |
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The vast majority are above us in the League (especially excluding the likes of Salisbury, Weymouth and other non-League clubs, or clubs that only have a shallow Football League history).
So next time someone says “we should be grateful we’re not Bury”, show em that list.
And when someone shows me that administration would have worked for us I'll shut me trap...90% of that list are clubs in areas that have had major regeneration or are close to areas of influence and success....yes, Fenty has enjoyed his power trip but at the time when we needed saving from the grasp of the HMRC there was hardly a queue of money men knocking down the door at BP....so yes, I'll say it again....I'm glad we're not a sad sack case a la Bury...give me Fenty and his bunch of yes men over Mr Dale every day of the week. BTW....I'm not all Pro Fenty, he has his faults and has made f@ck ups along the way, but haven't we all!!..
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aldi_01 |
February 28, 2020, 6:04pm |
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The vast majority are above us in the League (especially excluding the likes of Salisbury, Weymouth and other non-League clubs, or clubs that only have a shallow Football League history).
So next time someone says “we should be grateful we’re not Bury”, show em that list.
Agreed...and flipping cryarsing about itv digital and whatever excuse he’s peddled is balderdash. The ones on there that stand out as being similar type clubs didn’t go bust because of those reason, but because the fit and proper rules are a joke and despot leaders...Darlo, Chester, Bury. The rest seemed to do alright. I mean, excellent, we didn’t go bust (no evidence to say we would) but the imposed austerity on the club and severe lack of investment saw ya drop out of the league. But perhaps people only focus on that as a way to judge John. I mean the list of actual member ups and embarrassing moments along the way is a huge contributing factor but we’ll forget Tampon/smoke bombs, breaking a flag, holding fans in contempt, slagging off OP, the car park tapes, Marley’s ‘do you know who I am? Shut up!’ Moment...I mean the list is endless...
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