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Who, the surrender monkey or Robson?
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Who, the surrender monkey or Robson?
The Frenchman. Confirmed by IH in his post match interview.
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January 29, 2020, 10:15pm |
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Who, the surrender monkey or Robson?
You talking about the nation that dominated continental Europe for hundreds of years and had an empire second only to our own?
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January 30, 2020, 12:27am |
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You'd never have guessed you love Europe Kingston... 😅
As for Grandin; a stopgap to bulk out the squad and bring competition for places till the end of the Season at which point Ollie can seek out more long term options?
And/or reward Grandin with another year if he's proved himself useful?
Ollie's been thrust into a job with an immediate brief window, he might be lumping for faces that are tried and trusted with him without having the time to do full due diligence on everybody he doesn't know personally given the shirt time frame available and all his many other tasks to be on with.
Im sure our scouting network isn't extensive!
Just can’t stand lazy stereotypes Rik* And that lame old Yank thing about the French is just about the most historically inaccurate balderdash around - and if Cousin Jonathan had any manners he’d remember that but for The help of Frere Jacques, he’d still be singing God Save the Queen. * Mind you, as Jimmy Carr (I think it was) said ‘people go on about lazy racism as if that was the really bad thing. What we really don’t want again is a load of very active racists.’
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123614 |
January 30, 2020, 10:03am |
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You talking about the nation that dominated continental Europe for hundreds of years and had an empire second only to our own?
Yes I am, those that surrendered to the Germans just 7 weeks in to the 2nd World War, then made peace with the Germans. However, my post was a little bit of banter, I don't wish to be embroiled in political discussions.
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123614 |
January 30, 2020, 10:09am |
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Just can’t stand lazy stereotypes Rik* And that lame old Yank thing about the French is just about the most historically inaccurate balderdash around - and if Cousin Jonathan had any manners he’d remember that but for The help of Frere Jacques, he’d still be singing God Save the Queen.
* Mind you, as Jimmy Carr (I think it was) said ‘people go on about lazy racism as if that was the really bad thing. What we really don’t want again is a load of very active racists.’
Are you referring to the French surrender to the Germans?
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January 30, 2020, 10:30am |
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Yes I am, those that surrendered to the Germans just 7 weeks in to the 2nd World War, then made peace with the Germans.
The alternative was to be slaughtered en masse. The French army was utterly beaten (as was the British Expeditionary Force) and had suffered much greater losses than the Germans (or the British, for that matter). A lot of it was down to poor leadership as the soldiers certainly fought as hard as they could - the German losses of troops and equipment showed this. Almost a million French troops were liberated from camps in Germany at the end of the war so it's not as though it was a barrel of laughs for most of them. Not to mention tens of thousands who died as part of the resistance. Bad leadership and tactics leads to bad outcomes. Just ask the allied troops in Singapore who suffered so much following that needless surrender.
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January 30, 2020, 10:35am |
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The alternative was to be slaughtered en masse. The French army was utterly beaten (as was the British Expeditionary Force) and had suffered much greater losses than the Germans (or the British, for that matter). A lot of it was down to poor leadership as the soldiers certainly fought as hard as they could - the German losses of troops and equipment showed this. Almost a million French troops were liberated from camps in Germany at the end of the war so it's not as though it was a barrel of laughs for most of them. Not to mention tens of thousands who died as part of the resistance.
Bad leadership and tactics leads to bad outcomes. Just ask the allied troops in Singapore who suffered so much following that needless surrender.
It's easy for idiots to scoff at what the French went through from 1940-44 when we live in a country with a 20 mile moat around it and we were in the fortunate position to have radar stations set up which was 100% the key to winning the Battle of Britain and avoiding the Germans invading us too.
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January 30, 2020, 12:17pm |
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Well done Kingston for turning a thread about a new player into a discussion about the Second World War ffs !!!
Nothing to do with Black_and_White_Bear using an offensive/racist term to describe our latest signing. No, it's all Kingston's fault.
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January 30, 2020, 12:22pm |
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You'd never have guessed you love Europe Kingston... 😅
As for Grandin; a stopgap to bulk out the squad and bring competition for places till the end of the Season at which point Ollie can seek out more long term options?
And/or reward Grandin with another year if he's proved himself useful?
Ollie's been thrust into a job with an immediate brief window, he might be lumping for faces that are tried and trusted with him without having the time to do full due diligence on everybody he doesn't know personally given the shirt time frame available and all his many other tasks to be on with.
Im sure our scouting network isn't extensive!
I think Grandin will be a similar situation to Clarke - a contract until the end of the season and if you prove yourself then another season. I have it on very good authority that Clarke wanted 18 months but Ollie said "prove yourself and we'll see".
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