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If you bothered to read my posts then I have never claimed to be a fan of JF or a Fentyista. He has made many mistakes and to be fair to the man he has admitted it .He is very limited in his approach on running a football club and he seems to think it's like running a factory with an end product that goes to a third party. He is probably quite adept at controlling the finances and reducing overheads. Unfortunately the whole football industry is totally different. It's one thing buying equipment to do a specific job ie a filleting machine and employ people who can run it. The machine has a fixed, proven capacity and an operative can be taught to run it properly to achieve a known output. Footballers and football managers are not machines .They have good days, bad days and indifferent ones. Your manager is also a variable quantity - does well at one site but not at others. I don't think JF has fully grasped this and I think a lot of his decisions reflect this. fact I'm on record on this site as frequently saying I want him out. That doesn't mean I am not allowed to defend him on some issues. The problem is that attitudes on this site are very polarised and it seems to be the case that you either hate him or support him.
That's precisely my point. You are always quick to jump to his defence. You make a criticism here sure - almost begrudgingly. Let's take another tack and get away from taking sides. Would you: (a) Leave things as they are; or (b) Try to help find a way to improve matters? |
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People don't hate people who support JSF for the sake of it. If they do it's because a lot of them like you make statements like the one I underlined. Your contempt for other people is what provokes it.
Reading some of the things that you have said I would presume that you are in the final stages of being ordained. It is not contempt but pity. Nasty people with no brains 12 Nice people with commonsense 14 [J.S.F.'s side] might as well stoop to your level |
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That's precisely my point. You are always quick to jump to his defence. You make a criticism here sure - almost begrudgingly.
Let's take another tack and get away from taking sides. Would you:
(a) Leave things as they are; or
(b) Try to help find a way to improve matters?
Things have been run pretty much the same way for years - how can anyone expect anything to improve/change if the same tired process isn’t working? |
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We've just lost to a team who were bottom, we have allegedly one of the lowest budgets in this league, times up Sheldon, take your anchor of dead weight benign debt with you and lets see who take this club forward instead of wadding through the mud going nowhere.
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That's precisely my point. You are always quick to jump to his defence. You make a criticism here sure - almost begrudgingly.
Let's take another tack and get away from taking sides. Would you:
(a) Leave things as they are; or
(b) Try to help find a way to improve matters?
I want things to change but as for helping that to happen then my options are very limited. If I had the money then I could buy JF out , but I haven't so I can't. I could keep banging on about how he should go but somehow I don't think that would make any difference . I could make a conscious decision to not renew my ST and stop going to BP but that just hurts the club and could be instrumental in the club's further demise. Maybe you have a sensible suggestion as to how I , as an individual , can help things change? All suggestions will be considered. |
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I think recent managers performances with what they have available just prove what a great manager hurst was
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I think recent managers performances with what they have available just prove what a great manager hurst was
Let's not get back to how great Hurst was, we all know his record with us, most conference level, I know he was a success, eventually. |
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I want things to change but as for helping that to happen then my options are very limited. If I had the money then I could buy JF out , but I haven't so I can't. I could keep banging on about how he should go but somehow I don't think that would make any difference . I could make a conscious decision to not renew my ST and stop going to BP but that just hurts the club and could be instrumental in the club's further demise. Maybe you have a sensible suggestion as to how I , as an individual , can help things change? All suggestions will be considered.
I think it depends on what you think a forum is for. I dont expect any of my ramblings to be acted upon, to be taken up by the board, to instigate change or turn us into world beaters. I am just chatting like I would down the pub, grumbling that things could be so much better. It is football gossip, a moan, maybe a suggestion (though none have been taken up thus far) and the euphoria of a win and despair at a loss. I bet none of us are in a position to change things at BP. If we could we would, as you say. Of course Fenty knows this which is why he gives us no credence. Well-heeled business people are the only ones with any chance of reclaiming our club from Fenty, if they are prepared to stump up the money for his failure. They won't, so on we go hurtling towards another tilt at the Conference. |
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I think it depends on what you think a forum is for.
I dont expect any of my ramblings to be acted upon, to be taken up by the board, to instigate change or turn us into world beaters. I am just chatting like I would down the pub, grumbling that things could be so much better. It is football gossip, a moan, maybe a suggestion (though none have been taken up thus far) and the euphoria of a win and despair at a loss.
I bet none of us are in a position to change things at BP. If we could we would, as you say. Of course Fenty knows this which is why he gives us no credence. Well-heeled business people are the only ones with any chance of reclaiming our club from Fenty, if they are prepared to stump up the money for his failure. They won't, so on we go hurtling towards another tilt at the Conference.
Exactly my point. A forum is for airing views, having a moan and exchanging opinions. The thing is that in some posters eyes if you say anything that doesn't lambast JF ( or heaven forbid, give him a little credit for something ) then you must be supporting him. Until JF goes and another regime comes in then , as you realise , we are walking a tricky path. |
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