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diehardmariner
April 3, 2019, 8:59am
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Quoted from fiveallive
I thank Thomas for his efforts a player with the amount of clubs tells you maybe he might have a tendancy to mouth off.

Everyone knows he's not going to be here next season the last few games he's played similar to Sam Jones effort has gone you can tell.

At least gives Rose and Dennis a run out, Dennis will be out to impress hopefully.


Spot on comparison in my opinion.

Hasn't looked interested for a while and as others have pointed out, unless he's scoring he doesn't offer much else.  I think there's definitely a fatigue factor involved, he does look shattered and to an extent that's understandable.  He didn't have a proper pre-season and then was more or less straight in the mix of it after signing with very little respite since.  That was always going to result in a drop off at some point.  Equally so and more puzzling is that he looks less effective in a two-man strike force, despite looking like he was always in need of a partner when he played up front on his own.  I always felt he looked like a striker who would benefit from playing off someone but he was always the focal point here.

With regards what's gone on, who knows.  It doesn't really matter as he won't play again and ignoring the fact he's out of contract and apparently wants to move back down south, we need better.  He's a decent striker at this level and maybe with an absolute beast of a focal point alongside him he could have done more, but we still need better.  We've nothing to play for now other than pride and trialing things out for next season, this is a perfect opportunity to see how other options pan out up top.  Dennis has come here on loan with very limited opportunity to stake a real claim.  Fair enough he hasn't impressed a great deal when he has had a chance but I want to see him over a decent run of games and as the main striker, not as a support act.  Pair him with Rose and have Vernam in behind to take over the Embleton role as creator in chief.  Unfortunately I think Jolley may go for Cardwell to try and replicate the 'target man' role that Thomas didn't really do.
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Totally agree . What have we got to lose by giving rose and vernam the rest of the season up front ?
I can’t see Dennis being here really so just keep him on the bench


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Vernam is the most underated player at the club and needs to start games more, I doubt whether he is fully match fit ATM and seems to me as a player who will developed later in his career. He'd probably be on eight goals now if at Lincoln
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Based on nothing other than my own opinion, I think Jolley will have loaned Dennis with a view to signing him on a permanent deal next season.  

Notts County will want/need to get him off their wage bill and he wouldn't have been without suitors, even the money bags clubs in the Conference will have had interest in a guy with less than a 6-month blot on an otherwise pretty decent score card.  Can't imagine they will have loaned him to us, over other clubs, without some sort of agreement in place.
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Not sure what Dennis's stats are like but maybe he's had one wonder season and is going to dine out on it  for the rest of his career?
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He’s had 2 for my money. One for Macclesfield in the Conference and one in a very poor Chesterfield side in the League last season. Back to back seasons suggests he’s quite good to me.


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To me Dennis needs an old fashioned target man to feed off. Then he scores goals. If like Town you don't  set up that way he is ineffective
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Quoted from Mariner_09
He’s had 2 for my money. One for Macclesfield in the Conference and one in a very poor Chesterfield side in the League last season. Back to back seasons suggests he’s quite good to me.


There was a season in League 1 in the middle (where he got 8 ) but I agree, 2 goal laden seasons out of 4 isn't too bad going

(and I assume he scored goals at Conference North level before this)


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Quoted from Garth
Vernam is the most underated player at the club and needs to start games more, I doubt whether he is fully match fit ATM and seems to me as a player who will developed later in his career. He'd probably be on eight goals now if at Lincoln


Unfortunately i think there are off the pitch things with him , an interview with Jolley a couple of weeks ago mentioned that .."they like Charles the player"..."like with all players there is a path to the first team " ....just made me think its NOT a question of ability that is keeping him out.
As he is on the bench and getting sub appearances i figure it isn't disciplinary or major issues but probably more personal fitness targets etc.



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15/16 - 22 from 38 games in a mid-table Conference side
16/17 - 8 from 35 in a relegated League One side
17/18 - 19 from 43 in a relegated League Two side.

In all 3 of those seasons he was in a poor side that no doubt will have created very little chances for him plus as the only real goal threat, will have faced defenders who doubled and trebled up on him.

The record at League One isn't great, not terrible either, but we're miles away from League One and we only have to look at how someone like Bogle absolutely tore this league a new anus but has taken an age to adjust to stepping up a level.  

The lad is a goalscorer, it's that simple. It's up to us if we create chances for him.   I'm not concerned about his record at Notts County as they were comfortably the worst side I've seen since returning to the league.  I don't think many players would have looked good in that side .

From what I've seen of him he doesn't look anywhere near someone who can hit double figures in a season, nevermind 20+.  But we need to see him over  a consistent run of games and I'm actually looking forward to seeing how he works with someone other than Thomas.  If' he's up there with Rose and Vernam I think the extra pace and movement will create the space he needs.
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