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Throughout our tenure in the barren wilderness that is non-league, there was always some on here who stood up for Fenty. There was the usual cluster of people who were vehemently anti-Fenty but the vast majority of people on here and social media didn't offer much of an opinion either for or against our beloved leader (Stockholm syndrome?). That seems to have changed. There are still some who defend Fenty and his actions but they're certainly fewer in number. And a lot of the ones who were silent on the matter seem to have been sparked into life and it certainly appears as though the majority would be quite happy to see him gone.
For my part, I've always been silent on the subject. But the comments from the club this week which no doubt emanated from Fenty showed what utter disdain he has for the fanbase. He has no idea what we want but even worse he doesn't care what we want. We are irrelevant to him, the only thing we're good for is to keep the club afloat by blindly handing over our money every two weeks. Doesn't matter what facilities he lays out such as the dirty toilets and crap catering, doesn't matter that he's allowed us to assemble a squad devoid of any attacking intent, we don't deserve value for money. He leaches off our loyalty to the club like the parasite that he is. And woe betide anyone who makes a stand such as boycotting EFL trophy matches, you're nothing more than a bully stopping thousands of would be attenders. Possibly the most ironic statement ever made given his behaviour and actions since he gained a controlling stake.
He bullied the trust in to handing over the MP shares with threats of selling Hearn and to rub salt in to the wounds he now makes them pay for a place on the board. Well I'm sorry John but the Trust does far more good for the club than you ever have and the handing over of the shares which you forced through should be more than enough to earn their place at the top table. Your brother was on here the other day claiming you'd not stand in the way of anyone who could take the club forward and that you'd happily write your loans off. If that money is so benign then why were you repaid £200K from last year's Bogle profit? That money could quite easily have got us 3 or 4 good players for this level who might have meant we weren't looking over our shoulder at the trapdoor once again. Over the last 15 years or so you have made poor decision after poor decision, your PR is so bad it's beyond a joke, you bully anyone who expresses disagreement with you or does anything which threatens your control over the club and you have shown nothing but contempt for the only good thing left about the club; the fans.
It's clear you can't take this club further, at best under you we have treaded water at a level which historically would have been considered below us. It's also clear that nobody wants to work with you or with your "benign" loans looming ominously in the background should you not get your way. So if you really care about the club, it's time you actually wrote off those loans and let someone else have a go.
The big problem is who is that "someone else" ?
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Gaffer58 |
November 12, 2017, 2:27pm |
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I would like it if we had to even ask who our chairman (non chairman) was because he left it to the football people, PR department to do all the announcements, but we seem to have a leader that enjoys the publicity (good or bad)
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mariner91 |
November 12, 2017, 2:32pm |
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The big problem is who is that "someone else" ?
I'm not saying Mike Parker is that person, he's probably been put off for life after the way Fenty shafted him. But it shows there were people who would be interested, and I have no doubt there would certainly be more who would consider it without having to pay off Fenty's loans. Nobody is going to come in whilst he has a stranglehold over the club. You either have to agree to working with him which appears to be impossible especially when he can't stand not getting his own way and has the threat of calling his loans in. Or you have to pay massively over the odds to gain control because you have to pay back his mistakes as well as purchase shares. If the loans were written off, we wouldn't necessarily need someone with money to come in, just a brain and some footballing insight. With the right PR and being run in the right way, there is no reason why we couldn't average over 5000 fans at games which is more than enough to be competitive in this league. Exeter average around 4,000 and look where they are. Accrington get less than 2,000 and are significantly better than we are in every department. This club could be reasonably self-sufficient without Fenty if it was run correctly. When was the last time he put in much money? The fans paid for Bogle. We've made a profit in quite a few of the last seasons. And last season he repaid himself £200K which would have made a huge difference to our recruitment this summer.
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November 12, 2017, 2:45pm |
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I always find this "get rid of players" who care argument a little dodgy at best. Pearson was a great part of the side, BUT he decided to take a contract at Wrexham, before he was offered something here. The year before it was Amond and Arnold, who according to PH didnt get in touch to negotiate. Toto was basically hounded out by the fans who took nearly every opportunity to boo him and get on his back.
As for replacing them with players who dont understand, put yourself in their shoes- if every time you lose a game you re booed and called useless on forums and twitter I wonder quite how much of a Sh1t you would give about the club.
The saddest thing about being a Grimsby fan, for me, is the offensive and overly dramatic reactions that happen so regularly when we lose or draw.
I don't know what you mean by that last paragraph. Town fans have been incredibly loyal and supportive even when we dropped to non league. There hasn't been wide scale booing from the majority of fans for donkeys years - maybe the match at Halifax away and the home play off defeat to Braintree. If you mean fans on forums then that happens at every club. You can be top of the league yet lose a game and see the reaction on forums!
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HertsGTFC |
November 12, 2017, 2:47pm |
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I'm not saying Mike Parker is that person, he's probably been put off for life after the way Fenty shafted him. But it shows there were people who would be interested, and I have no doubt there would certainly be more who would consider it without having to pay off Fenty's loans. Nobody is going to come in whilst he has a stranglehold over the club. You either have to agree to working with him which appears to be impossible especially when he can't stand not getting his own way and has the threat of calling his loans in. Or you have to pay massively over the odds to gain control because you have to pay back his mistakes as well as purchase shares.
If the loans were written off, we wouldn't necessarily need someone with money to come in, just a brain and some footballing insight. With the right PR and being run in the right way, there is no reason why we couldn't average over 5000 fans at games which is more than enough to be competitive in this league. Exeter average around 4,000 and look where they are. Accrington get less than 2,000 and are significantly better than we are in every department. This club could be reasonably self-sufficient without Fenty if it was run correctly. When was the last time he put in much money? The fans paid for Bogle. We've made a profit in quite a few of the last seasons. And last season he repaid himself £200K which would have made a huge difference to our recruitment this summer.
Don't disagree with any of that but in reality we are a million miles away from most of it at the moment sadly. It would be interesting though to run a set of projections to understand where the break even point is in the accounts based on the current cost base.
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malkamalka |
November 12, 2017, 4:29pm |
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Mike Ashley is rumoured to be interested in buying a lower league club once he gets out of Toon. Look our Mansfield
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arryarryarry |
November 12, 2017, 4:46pm |
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Quoted from 935
I always find this "get rid of players" who care argument a little dodgy at best. Pearson was a great part of the side, BUT he decided to take a contract at Wrexham, before he was offered something here. The year before it was Amond and Arnold, who according to PH didnt get in touch to negotiate. Toto was basically hounded out by the fans who took nearly every opportunity to boo him and get on his back.
As for replacing them with players who dont understand, put yourself in their shoes- if every time you lose a game you re booed and called useless on forums and twitter I wonder quite how much of a Sh1t you would give about the club.
The saddest thing about being a Grimsby fan, for me, is the offensive and overly dramatic reactions that happen so regularly when we lose or draw.
I think you will find that that isn't true. He wanted to stay but the club wouldn't offer him a contract as they were clearly looking to sign someone else. What did you expect him to do start the season without a club.
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KingstonMariner |
November 12, 2017, 4:48pm |
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I'm not saying Mike Parker is that person, he's probably been put off for life after the way Fenty shafted him. But it shows there were people who would be interested, and I have no doubt there would certainly be more who would consider it without having to pay off Fenty's loans. Nobody is going to come in whilst he has a stranglehold over the club. You either have to agree to working with him which appears to be impossible especially when he can't stand not getting his own way and has the threat of calling his loans in. Or you have to pay massively over the odds to gain control because you have to pay back his mistakes as well as purchase shares.
If the loans were written off, we wouldn't necessarily need someone with money to come in, just a brain and some footballing insight. With the right PR and being run in the right way, there is no reason why we couldn't average over 5000 fans at games which is more than enough to be competitive in this league. Exeter average around 4,000 and look where they are. Accrington get less than 2,000 and are significantly better than we are in every department. This club could be reasonably self-sufficient without Fenty if it was run correctly. When was the last time he put in much money? The fans paid for Bogle. We've made a profit in quite a few of the last seasons. And last season he repaid himself £200K which would have made a huge difference to our recruitment this summer.
Spot on. In fact Exeter are owned and run by their Trust. Shows what can be done. I reckon if you took all the skills that are available amongst the fanbase, it'd knock spots over the current regime once properly mobilised. Unlock the potential.
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November 12, 2017, 4:53pm |
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Quoted from 935
I always find this "get rid of players" who care argument a little dodgy at best. Pearson was a great part of the side, BUT he decided to take a contract at Wrexham, before he was offered something here. The year before it was Amond and Arnold, who according to PH didnt get in touch to negotiate. Toto was basically hounded out by the fans who took nearly every opportunity to boo him and get on his back.
As for replacing them with players who dont understand, put yourself in their shoes- if every time you lose a game you re booed and called useless on forums and twitter I wonder quite how much of a Sh1t you would give about the club.
The saddest thing about being a Grimsby fan, for me, is the offensive and overly dramatic reactions that happen so regularly when we lose or draw.
That is a distortion of events they made an offer to Clarke and was waiting for his response,Pearson made the decision as there was a firm offer on the table from Wrexham,he was pushed into it,like us all he has a family to support.But as usual don't let the facts colour your opinion.
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November 12, 2017, 4:57pm |
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Spot on.
In fact Exeter are owned and run by their Trust. Shows what can be done. I reckon if you took all the skills that are available amongst the fanbase, it'd knock spots over the current regime once properly mobilised. Unlock the potential.
Also Newport, Wycombe currently I think. Things went well for Brentford and Portsmouth when they were recently trust owned and look at them now..
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