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Quoted from mariner tommy
If it isn't broken........................


It's a discussion point, no more
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In other news,   Andy Todd is their assistant manager.

On point,  based on their crowds, Newport surely cannot sustain the football league place.  
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I have a close friend who is very heavily involved in Osnabruck F.C. who play in the third tier of German football. The big difference (as far as I can ascertain) is that there is nowhere near the amount of money that is in the English game. The rules seem to prevent clubs spending above their means and even above the level set for their particular league. A couple of years ago Osnabruck missed out on promotion on the last day and were given a small dispensation for a modest increase in budget to succeed the next season. When they ultimately failed they had to cut their cloth for last season which meant the better paid players had to leave. This sort of environment definitely appears to create a more level playing field and is more conducive to management/ownership by fans. It should also be noted that admission prices are considerably less than are paid in this country.


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Quoted from mariner tommy
If it isn't broken........................


£3m in debt. Yes it's broken. We should fix it.


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I have a close friend who is very heavily involved in Osnabruck F.C. who play in the third tier of German football. The big difference (as far as I can ascertain) is that there is nowhere near the amount of money that is in the English game. The rules seem to prevent clubs spending above their means and even above the level set for their particular league. A couple of years ago Osnabruck missed out on promotion on the last day and were given a small dispensation for a modest increase in budget to succeed the next season. When they ultimately failed they had to cut their cloth for last season which meant the better paid players had to leave. This sort of environment definitely appears to create a more level playing field and is more conducive to management/ownership by fans. It should also be noted that admission prices are considerably less than are paid in this country.


Viewed as a 'whole game solution' the Germans seem to have got it right. Their national team has several trophies to our 1 (unless you count Le Tourney in 9. Their top teams are competitive in the Champions League, Bayern M being one of the most successful clubs ever in that tournament and it's predecessor. You can stand at most grounds. The tickets are cheaper. You can even drink beer in the stand.

Then they took the decision long ago to place the national team's interest first above those of clubs, and to keep clubs as member owned clubs.

Just shows, if you decide what the problems that need solving are, then consider what are the best solutions and implement them, you are on to a winner. But then like business and work, the Germans benefitted from losing the War and getting the chance to start with a clean slate.


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Nearer to home we have AFCW and FC Utd who have both done OK since starting out at 'village football' level.

Also near to me is Hampton & Richmond Borough. Previously owned by a wealthy individual, worked their way up to near the top of the Conference South on gates which topped out at 1400, lost loads of money, suffered two (nearly 3) relegations), the owner* lost interest and he handed it over lock stock and barrel to the supporters trust, and they're now sitting pretty 2nd in the conference south again**.

* to be fair to him he gave it to the Trust.

** despite having Christian Jolley on the books  


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No if it was a co-operative kind of way where we were the money behind the club.
Look at Wrexham...arguably a similarly supported club to ourselves but with maybe a bigger potential fanbase perhaps......14th in the conference and despite a couple of promising seasons when they first went down seemingly going no-where.

It is a beautiful idea but just not one that is going to work that well in this country....unless relative success is all you are after.  Unfortunately we need a financial backer to see you through the darker/leaner  days and put the cold hard cash into the club when emergencies kick in.

Ours is by no means perfect in some ways but...he does care about the club which is alot to be thankful for.


spoke to a couple of wrexham fans during the Euros and they said it wasnt a good thing. no decisions being taken and not enough investment
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spoke to a couple of wrexham fans during the Euros and they said it wasnt a good thing. no decisions being taken and not enough investment


Investment, or billionaire's plaything/money laundering scheme?


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