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barralad
May 29, 2016, 10:21pm
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Barra...
as a fans Trust spokesperson....do you feel the thoughts of the fans were... a) considered, offered...represented at any point of the pricing review
or
b) attended a board meeting and told what the prices were going be without any consultation ?



When you consider the Trust have two places on the Board of GTFC it is utterly inconceivable in my PERSONAL opinion that option b could possibly be realistic. At the risk of repeating myself if you want the Trust's view then you should e-mail enquiries.


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Well to be honest I don't feel like defending the Trust's position on an anonymous website.

My entirely PERSONAL opinion is that if we are to be a competitive force next year then we have to provide Paul Hurst with a competitive budget to work with. I wish desperately to see a reduction in our dependence on the benefices of one person and if this gives us the opportunity to do both those things then it is a price worth paying. Maths isn't my strongest suit but a cost of £70 for a junior season ticket means a junior is paying £3-ish per game.

If you want the Trust's response may I respectfully suggest that you direct this query in its entirety to enquiries@marinerstrust.com

Again personally speaking I do not think that I'll be accepting your kind invitation to "resign in shame". I would say however that there is always room on the Mariners Trust board for people who can offer something in the way of Positive Action to help GTFC. Ir's not really for me to comment on the abilities of someone I'm pretty sure I don't know. Only you will know whether you fit the bill or whether sadly you are one of those who hide behind anonymity on a messageboard.
If you wish to discuss my personal view further please feel free to private message me on here. I won't be responding any more on this thread because to be honest I've nothing more to say.
Ta in advance for reading...

EDIT:- I should add my name is Ian Townsend and I hold the position of Treasurer for The Mariners Trust.


Firstly, I'm not hiding behind anonymity on this or any other website. I've been using GollyGTFC as a username for well over a decade and plenty of people on here and elsewhere know exactly who I am. If you aren't one of them try using google and feel free to follow me on Twitter if you like.

Anyway, back to the important issue. How is it right/fair that...

Young Adult ST (19-21) costs £170 which is the equivalent of just under 9 and a half individual match tickets.
Young Adult ST (15-1 costs £130 which is the equivalent of exactly 10 individual match tickets.
Children (14 and under) costs £70 which is the equivalent of 14 individual match tickets.

I really couldn't care less about the cost of Adult STs. Infact if you search through enough posts I suggested a £38 increase was likely (and fair) as I foolishly believed the club would keep to the pricing policy and formula used in the past rather than lazily just add £20 to everybody which results in the most expensive adult ticket going up just 6% and all juniors going up by an extortionate 40%.

Junior STs went up by 150% (£20 to £50) just 3 years ago. Add this years increase and in just 3 years they have gone up 250% (£20 to £70). That is an absolute disgrace when you consider half the clubs in League 2 offer "free" season tickets for accompanied juniors and most of the rest are well below £50.

How can a club like Grimsby Town in an area with high unemployment and where a third of children are living in poverty charge so much for children to see football?
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May 29, 2016, 11:49pm
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I am very pleased with the requested ST prices, we need to give the manager a competitive budget and I for one will be delighted to do my very small bit to do so. I also call for an Operationpromotion fundraiser, I pledge an extra £500 to start the ball rolling. We need to get out of this league.

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The TV money & Premier League solidarity payments mean we are £1,000,000 better off than last season before you take into account that we won't be able to count the away fans in the Osmond during an break in play for any injury next season.

What I am saying is, I think the club could have avoided putting children's season tickets up 40% given the huge financial windfall of promotion.
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The TV money & Premier League solidarity payments mean we are £1,000,000 better off than last season before you take into account that we won't be able to count the away fans in the Osmond during an break in play for any injury next season.

What I am saying is, I think the club could have avoided putting children's season tickets up 40% given the huge financial windfall of promotion.


The same 'windfall' the other 23 clubs have. And it's not like the kids will be paying the 40% out of their money box! We need to have an advantage, it's only the 4th division, it won't do at all. Let's crack on, get to the third division then push for the play offs. That, for me is our natural level. Championship nowadays looks beyond us, I won't accept 4th division football. I can't do much about it but whack my moolah in, do the same. Let's get us out of this league.
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The same 'windfall' the other 23 clubs have. And it's not like the kids will be paying the 40% out of their money box! We need to have an advantage, it's only the 4th division, it won't do at all. Let's crack on, get to the third division then push for the play offs. That, for me is our natural level. Championship nowadays looks beyond us, I won't accept 4th division football. I can't do much about it but whack my moolah in, do the same. Let's get us out of this league.


Spot on BP , this windfall as you put it has given these league clubs an advantage for years , with York and Daggers also now having a parachute payment  . Something that we could never budget for , until now .  How would you feel if we aligned ourselves to , let's say Hull to loan , rent out or something , their excess players . Not only for our benefit but for theirs to be playing in the league as Townsend did .  I think we have a better chance now than last season , the drop into the conference for some is just unheard of .

Also the money saved could be used to sign better quality players . I would have thought  all aspects have been looked at . Again your right I don't think we would be able at this stage contemplate championship football for sometime  .
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Firstly, I'm not hiding behind anonymity on this or any other website. I've been using GollyGTFC as a username for well over a decade and plenty of people on here and elsewhere know exactly who I am. If you aren't one of them try using google and feel free to follow me on Twitter if you like.

Anyway, back to the important issue. How is it right/fair that...

Young Adult ST (19-21) costs £170 which is the equivalent of just under 9 and a half individual match tickets.
Young Adult ST (15-1 costs £130 which is the equivalent of exactly 10 individual match tickets.
Children (14 and under) costs £70 which is the equivalent of 14 individual match tickets.

I really couldn't care less about the cost of Adult STs. Infact if you search through enough posts I suggested a £38 increase was likely (and fair) as I foolishly believed the club would keep to the pricing policy and formula used in the past rather than lazily just add £20 to everybody which results in the most expensive adult ticket going up just 6% and all juniors going up by an extortionate 40%.

Junior STs went up by 150% (£20 to £50) just 3 years ago. Add this years increase and in just 3 years they have gone up 250% (£20 to £70). That is an absolute disgrace when you consider half the clubs in League 2 offer "free" season tickets for accompanied juniors and most of the rest are well below £50.

How can a club like Grimsby Town in an area with high unemployment and where a third of children are living in poverty charge so much for children to see football?


I see your point here Golly and can sympathise.  Often standard price rises do throw up some anomalies and we should be protecting children season ticket prices as I guess most of us on here started going in that age group and got hooked, so like good responsible adults should try to pass on our dangerous addiction to the next generation.  

However I think you are out of order to have such a swipe at the Trust.  If this was something you raised with the trust in a direct email and asked them what they thought about this I am sure you would of recieved a good reply and the trust would of taken it on board as part of their future decision making and discussed with the club if there was a way to change this.  They have always been open and honest about dealing with things and are all people working hard for the club that we all love, even if you disagree with a decision to demand something of them stilll would not be the way to go, surely you cuold work and try and become a part of the trust rather than just slam them?
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there is always room on the Mariners Trust board for people who can offer something in the way of Positive Action to help GTFC.



Help GTFC or help the supporters of GTFC?
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barralad
May 30, 2016, 10:41am
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Help GTFC or help the supporters of GTFC?


Aren't the two inextricably linked?


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Aren't the two inextricably linked?


You would like to think so but certain Youtube videos and the events of the last 24 hours do make you wonder if the powers that be consider us as 2nd class citizens.
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