Australian women

Quoted from pontoonlew

It's more stupid to ask for equal pay between the two sports.

Everybody is fully aware of the differences between them, there is an ability gap, an absolutely huge one. It doesn't mean the women aren't talented, they're just not on the same level as their male peers.

So when they scream sexism when they don't get paid the same, it is absolutely flipping infuriating.

Again, who's said there should be pay equality between male and female footballers? I'm sure there's been the odd isolated suggestion but when you say 'they' who do you mean? I genuinely haven't heard anybody suggest women footballers in the Premier League should be on 6 or even 5 figure weekly salaries, let alone scream sexism over it.

OOps I thought this was a misguided thread from a totally different website!

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Again, who's said there should be pay equality between male and female footballers? I'm sure there's been the odd isolated suggestion but when you say 'they' who do you mean? I genuinely haven't heard anybody suggest women footballers in the Premier League should be on 6 or even 5 figure weekly salaries, let alone scream sexism over it.

I've seen a few news pieces picking up on it questioning the gender pay gap in football, particularly during the women's World Cup.

The women's tennis debate crops up numerous times too.

It's a closed debate, the fact people even suggest it is ridiculous. It's completely obvious why they're not paid the same, because they don't bring in the same revenue and i doubt they ever will.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

The national women's side lost a pre-Olympics training game to a team of under-15 boys by 7 goals to nil.

Admittedly this was not the Matildas first choice eleven but it says something about the true standard of women's football and why it cannot be compared to the men's game. Australia are apparently still amongst the favourites for gold in Rio.

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3609949/Matildas-lose-7-0-Newcastle-Jets-15s-Rio-Olympics-warm-up.html[/url]

Technically not that much between the players but the men are bigger,stronger and faster and that makes all the difference I wonder how many of those goals were set pieces or headers that the ladies could not defend against?

The only woman I have seen who may have been able to play albeit at lower level was the Yank Mia Hamm from years ago.Possibly more since but they are few and far between and even with bags of ability how would they compete against the likes of Pearson and Gowling who would simply overpower them?

The pay issue is not down to ability or strength etc, it's about what money there is in the game through ticket sales, TV, sponsorship etc. That is when male footballers are paid more than females-it has nothing to do with ability.

Re entertainment the most exciting sportsperson I like watching is Laura Trott in track cycling,  always great value. So what if she's not as fast as Bradley Wiggins!

Quoted from 1mickylyons

Technically not that much between the players but the men are bigger,stronger and faster and that makes all the difference I wonder how many of those goals were set pieces or headers that the ladies could not defend against?

This was an under-15 boys  side remember. So physique might not be as much of an issue. The comment in the article from one of the women's coaches I think was that the boys moved the ball around extremely well. Which again gives the impression they were out-footballed rather than out-muscled.

In answer to Ascend, there is no doubt the quality of the women's game has improved in recent years. My point in starting this thread is to illustrate that the improvement is good but it is from a very low level to a not very high level, relative to the men's game.

Women's football and tennis are popular with the sponsors and the media not because they are high quality but because they retain femininity. The actual activity itself is not as important as the females taking part. US television would not be so interested in showing a giant women's basketball team or American football team. But a fit average size blonde bouncing along down the wing in a sports bra is OK for obvious reasons. If Jessica Wahatsit and Victoria Pendlethingy were shot putters there is no way they would have got the air time they did. Women's sport is still sexist first and ability driven second.

There's plenty of feminist morons complaining about pay gaps etc. but what you get paid is relative to what you bring in, simple. Men are physically more powerful; faster, stronger, jump higher etc etc holding pretty much all the records for any human -man or woman best ever.

So at the pinnacle of whatever discipline it is they command most the attention.

Quoted from HackneyHaddock

Bit like when Bobby Riggs (1939 Wimbledon Champion) thrashed Billie Jean King in the 70s despite having been an old codger whose pomp was before the war.

Billie Jean beat him in straight sets but don't let the facts get in the way of your anti-women tirade.

Quoted from tanga_the_indestructible

Billie Jean beat him in straight sets but don't let the facts get in the way of your anti-women tirade.

Correct . He beat Margaret Court in an erlier battle and Jimmy Connors beat Martina Navratilova in 1993