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your end about the fees fixed yesterday ?.    Using comments made in the last 24hrs and figures quoted in the past the educated guess is around 60k .  

60k   Pissing in the wind mate.

20k max

I too think your looking at 20k ish... I'm only basing this on the fact we paid £10,000 for Charles Adeneno at tribunal and he was a good,young, highly rated striker who was somewhat proven at this level.

FIGURE based on following details s c.  .    Rob Scott was reported in the media to value Pearson at 100k when Alfreton was said  to be interested . No doubt Newton would show this at the tribunal and would demand at least 125k for the pair .
Fenty would only value them at 10k
Mid point of these figures is 67.5 k
I,ve based my guess on two comments
Town spokesman qouted as saying " it was nearer our figure than theirs "
On our comm /man twitter  " I know fans would like to know the figures but theres nothing we can do if both clubs don,t agree to it." explaining why the club had not released the figures.
Reading all the comments from both clubs think the fee is pretty near the mid point mark.

Put it this way. If you've got 60 grand from us, you've done very well indeed judging by what we've seen so far this season.

I think the gap in ability between the BSP and the BSN is pretty substantial.

If it was 60k,then the panel are half wits.We paid 10k for Adameno and 30k for Hearn and neither of the ex Boston two are anywhere near their level.

I would be a bit miffed if we payed more than £20,000 for the pair seeing that one can`t get a game and the other one has been loaned out, want to buy them back

I think most of you (on both sides) are missing the main point of this case. This was not about transfer value. The case was to set compensation for the two players being under 24. Both players were out of contract and the only thing Boston had to do  was offer the two players the same or an increased contract for this season to garantee compensation. The offer of a  new contract was obviously turned down thereby the under 24 rule is brought into effect. The fees talked about on both sides are way off the actual figures because its not a transfer fee but compensation fees.
Good luck for tonite v Port vale
If your management had set aside an amount in the player budget and have  not  give it all to Boston, My guess is that there will be some loan activity with any money leftover . Judging by the comments on here a centerback is required     

So if its compensation and not transfer fees then the 100k quoted to Alfreton has nothing to do with it.

I agree with the others if you got more than 20k for them you have done well. Ademeno turned down a contract with Crawley to come to us and Crawley were compensated 10k, he was a younger full time player proven at BSP level. Neither Pearson or Church are any of those.

Just to add if you paid 30k for hearn and he has scored in only 4 out of  20 odd games  shouldnt some of you give him the same grief your giving the rest of your squad, just a thought.

The 100k figure was quoted when Aden Flint left Alfreton for Swindon mid=season and there was talk they wanted Pearson. That would have been a transfer because Pearson was under contract. At the begining of May 11 he was out of contract and the only thing binding him to Boston was that hes under 24. Hope that clears that up.

Hearn has shown potential. Church has gone out on loan.

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Just to add if you paid 30k for hearn and he has scored in only 4 out of  20 odd games  shouldnt some of you give him the same grief your giving the rest of your squad, just a thought.

He has scored 8 (i think)... But ability wise and performance wise he is head and shoulders above the pair we got from you, it's not saying a lot though...

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He has scored 8 (i think)... But ability wise and performance wise he is head and shoulders above the pair we got from you, it's not saying a lot though...

Oh I see what you mean now... Yeah I agree as well, he isn't Alan Connell (sorry all, i'm not over him blah blah) and certainly not the player some make him out to be...

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Just to add if you paid 30k for hearn and he has scored in only 4 out of  20 odd games  shouldnt some of you give him the same grief your giving the rest of your squad, just a thought.

The 100k figure was quoted when Aden Flint left Alfreton for Swindon mid=season and there was talk they wanted Pearson. That would have been a transfer because Pearson was under contract. At the begining of May 11 he was out of contract and the only thing binding him to Boston was that hes under 24. Hope that clears that up.

Yes but you're saying he's worth 100k because you quoted that to Alfreton as a fee, and then say the tribunal has nothing to do with transfer value. Also you using big assumptions like Newton would use the 100k figure and then demand 125k for the pair, where you getting 25k for Church from? and then halfing it to 67.5 k and assuming it was 60k because its nearer our valuation than yours, well 20k is nearer our valuation than yours too.

Also you mentioned in your other many threads on this that you think it was Grimsby that wanted undisclosed because we paid more than we wanted. How do you know it wasn't Boston wanting undisclosed because you got so little for them?

Anyway nobody is going to know until next years accounts are out and then it still won't be clear because it won't list individual amounts, so we may as well not debate it. I'd be shocked if it was anywhere near 60k and would put it closer to 20k which would still be too much.

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Oh I see what you mean now... Yeah I agree as well, he isn't Alan Connell (sorry all, i'm not over him blah blah) and certainly not the player some make him out to be...

I think he is but we're just not using him right. I don't believe the quality of defences is so much different between BSN and BSP. Then again that's just an assumption, am no BSN expert.

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I think he is but we're just not using him right. I don't believe the quality of defences is so much different between BSN and BSP. Then again that's just an assumption, am no BSN expert.

Am no BSN expert either but I reckon there is a big difference, for a start as far as I know their are no or very few full time teams/players in the BSN compared to the BSP. Its easier to score past a plumber and his electrican defenders than experienced professional footballers.

Also very few players make the step up from lower level to full time. Hearn scored 30+ last season and has so far only got 10 goals all against lesser teams. Walshaw went to Darlo on the back of 30+ goals last season and failed with them gone to Halifax on loan and scored straight away this weekend. Pearson also scored 10 last season and has failed to score this. Am sure theres many more examples and very few of successful ones making the step up.

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Am no BSN expert either but I reckon there is a big difference, for a start as far as I know their are no or very few full time teams/players in the BSN compared to the BSP. Its easier to score past a plumber and his electrican defenders than experienced professional footballers.

Also very few players make the step up from lower level to full time. Hearn scored 30+ last season and has so far only got 10 goals all against lesser teams. Walshaw went to Darlo on the back of 30+ goals last season and failed with them gone to Halifax on loan and scored straight away this weekend. Pearson also scored 10 last season and has failed to score this. Am sure theres many more examples and very few of successful ones making the step up.

Very good and fair points Herr Cod. Vardy has done quite well at Fleetwood I think, but it's hard to argue with what you say.

Quite agree but potential and ability for a forward is measured in goals. Its all well and good berating the defence but your main striker is hardly pulling his weight is he? Its great scoring against pub sides and a   hatrick against the team with the worst defence in the top 6 divs but if he dont start scoring soon you may well end up in our div. Even i wouldnt wish that on you. How long do you keep the faith with someone that cant score away from home just because you paid 30k for him.

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Quite agree but potential and ability for a forward is measured in goals. Its all well and good berating the defence but your main striker is hardly pulling his weight is he? Its great scoring against pub sides and a   hatrick against the team with the worst defence in the top 6 divs but if he dont start scoring soon you may well end up in our div. Even i wouldnt wish that on you. How long do you keep the faith with someone that cant score away from home just because you paid 30k for him.

Not being funny but whats it matter whos he is scoring against? he has 10 goals this season in all comps and were not half way yet, that equates to over 20 by the season end, which is good for any striker in this league. You can't blame Hearn for not scoring away from home or against the better teams when nobody else is either. Hearn has been one of our best performers all season, which is more than we can say for either Pearson or Church.

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Very good and fair points Herr Cod. Vardy has done quite well at Fleetwood I think, but it's hard to argue with what you say.

Yes Vardy looks to be one of the exceptions, but then he was attracting interest from league clubs in the summer (Hearn wasn't as far as I know) but the price he was valued at none wanted to take the risk, now hes gone to Fleetwood and proving he can step up, I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave in Jan unless Fleetwood turn all offers down because they don't need the money.

You should be happy with this anyway BF as it could mean you'll end up getting them back!

cod gtfc you have got me mixed up with Bostonian i am boston fan

oh sorry, didn't really look properly at the usernames :p

anyway its less than 20k for the pair according to the telegraph:

[url]http://www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk/Grimsby-Town-Club-8216-satisfied-8217-tribunal/story-13920363-detail/story.html[/url]

That hearing set an undisclosed payment for the players but the Telegraph has learned the Mariners have been instructed to pay less than £20,000 for the pair with United understood to value each player in the region of that figure.

So the 100k value and 60k paid was miles off.

codgtfc  Daryl Clare another one to add to your list.  Less than 20k for the first installment sounds about right .


Daylight robbery .

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codgtfc  Daryl Clare another one to add to your list.  Less than 20k for the first installment sounds about right .


Daylight robbery .

first installment? you mean 20k in total. no its not daylight robbery, 10k for a part-time player is about right, you need to stop over rating BSN players.

All I'm going say is there are different types of strikers some are box predators, others are work horses that score a few and some link attack with midfield come deep play others in and then you have your target men.  Hearn is our no.1 because a) he works like a Trojan b) he has great potential c) can score goals all round a win win for GTFC

am going to try and be as honest and as blunt as i can..

these 2 have certainly struggled espescially church imo and boston have done very well to get a fee..

i think they have struggled with the step up and with the rave reviews coming from boston way when we signed them to say i am dissapointed is an understatement.

the win tonight should cover the fee. I think we get £18,000. (£27,000 if we beat Salisbury)

Yup got £18,500 for winning tonight, plus £12,500 for beating Ashington so theres £31k straight away, plus half the gate receipts from the 3 games so far.

Lets hope we don't mess up the next one, and then get a big tie in the third round and hopefully a TV game, could go along way towards our losses for the season.

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Just to add if you paid 30k for hearn and he has scored in only 4 out of  20 odd games  shouldnt some of you give him the same grief your giving the rest of your squad, just a thought.

when he gets into double figures, can we use your inbred abacus hands to count!?!?!? now, go away!

Comsidering they struggle to make an impact in the BSP Boston should be pleased with the fee .

If they excead expectations the sell-on clause will proof uselull.

Anybody got any idea why Town insisted on the fee not being made public .?

Boston Fan,

You have got Hearn totally wrong, he is three times the quality of the two we got from you.

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Boston Fan,

You have got Hearn totally wrong, he is three times the quality of the two we got from you.

nice pic looks like me gf