david cameron

Quoted from Super Clive

The man is an absolute Bell end.

I mean what the intercourse is he doing ? the back lash is only just beginning...

He's harmless enough though.

Oh, you mean Dave.

Sooner Cameron felicitations off the better. The man is a absolute bell-end of the highest order.

Quoted from kingofthekippers

To go back to the original question I think the jury is still out on Cameron. He's in a hell of a position. I could understand an angry outburst if the cuts in spending (and I speak as someone who is a victim of such measures) were being used to cut tax but they're not; in fact tax rates are going up. It just goes to show what a mess the country is in and I have to say as a Labour Party member and trade union member, a mess that the coalition inherited. It is not too far a jump to say that if Labour had won or formed a coalition they would have had to take a very similar route.

I also have to note that if the coalition is so unpopular why do opinion polls only show a 1 or 2% lead for Labour at best over the Conservatives? And if you put the figures of the coalition togther Labour come nowhere near? Is it that the electorate remember who presided over the banking crisis and massive public borrowing? Is it that Ed Miliband and Ed Balls do not make for good potential government? Or is it that people just see all politicians pissing in the same pot?

I think the reason you'll find that the Tories are only a few points behind - and it doesn't mean anything at this stage of the game - is by the right wing media perpetuating the lie that it's the previous government's mess. It quite clearly wasn't, but let's not debunk the biggest hoodwink in history, eh? The fault lies fairly and squarely with the 1% who make up the world's super rich elite who appear to all intents and purposes are above the law, both in their in own country, and globally.
The Occupy movement is starting to address this issue, and it's amazing to see how something so organic and without any structure is actually making people sit up and notice. However, that's all well and good in the short to medium term in raising people's awareness, but it won't change the politician's minds. It's only when it moves on to mass civil disobedience that things will move, and I'm convinced that it will happen - and probably sooner rather than later.
So is civil disobedience wrong? Not in such instances when it seeks to redress an absolutely corrupt system that sees more that half the world's population starving whilst the 1% live a life of obscene decadence. It needs to happen, because if it doesn't we just go on taking what we're told and doing nothing about it. When the reality hits home here, people will hopefully wake up to what's going on. Hospitals closing, libraries closing, schools left to rot while elite schools flourish, rising food prices, rising fuel prices, raging inflation, wage stagnation, etc, I could go on. This isn't the fault of the last government, it's a hideous experiment being carried out by the elite class of public school millionaires who have no concept of reality.
I'm part of the 99%..............

Quoted from aaron rattray

what are your thoughts on him?

i personally think that he is doing a good job.

Now you've put it like that Aaron I've completely changed my mind about him. Top bloke isn't he?

Quoted from jock dock tower

I think the reason you'll find that the Tories are only a few points behind - and it doesn't mean anything at this stage of the game - is by the right wing media perpetuating the lie that it's the previous government's mess. It quite clearly wasn't, but let's not debunk the biggest hoodwink in history, eh? The fault lies fairly and squarely with the 1% who make up the world's super rich elite who appear to all intents and purposes are above the law, both in their in own country, and globally.
The Occupy movement is starting to address this issue, and it's amazing to see how something so organic and without any structure is actually making people sit up and notice. However, that's all well and good in the short to medium term in raising people's awareness, but it won't change the politician's minds. It's only when it moves on to mass civil disobedience that things will move, and I'm convinced that it will happen - and probably sooner rather than later.
So is civil disobedience wrong? Not in such instances when it seeks to redress an absolutely corrupt system that sees more that half the world's population starving whilst the 1% live a life of obscene decadence. It needs to happen, because if it doesn't we just go on taking what we're told and doing nothing about it. When the reality hits home here, people will hopefully wake up to what's going on. Hospitals closing, libraries closing, schools left to rot while elite schools flourish, rising food prices, rising fuel prices, raging inflation, wage stagnation, etc, I could go on. This isn't the fault of the last government, it's a hideous experiment being carried out by the elite class of public school millionaires who have no concept of reality.
I'm part of the 99%..............

Well said.

I think you need to be careful when you talk about right and left wing though.
At the end of the day it's the same system eating off the same table pretending they're in opposition giving the public the illusion of choice.

Mainstream parties may argue the toss over the small issues but they all support big business and are in agreement over the major issues - overseas wars, the EU, global warming, you name it...
In fact, they're hardly left and right at all any more IMO.

I personally think the problem is even smaller than the 1% and it's a few elite families and banks right at the top who control the issuance of credit.
The video in this article explains how the FIAT money system is the ultimate problem and how the big fish win and everyone else loses...
http://www.infowars.com/city-of-londons-lord-mayor-openly-mocks-occupy-and-the-99/

Trouble with these grassroots movements is, they can easily get co-opted and suddenly everyone thinks the answer is socialism and it's up to anyone wealthy outside the 1% to pay more whilst the biggest players get off the hook scot free.

Last thing I want is to see is an end to capitalism, private property etc and end up in a nightmarish socialist society - that's exactly what the establishment want - to create a class divide and point the finger at the wealthy middle class.
However reasonable it sounds for ordinary rich people to pay more to the 1% or so, it doesn't help the business cycle and it's not the problem, the mega-banks are.
I'll take equal and fair justice over living in North Korea any day of the week...

There's some nice beaches in North Korea.

As a life long Conservative Party supporter I have to say that I don't have much time for Cameron. He has sold out on his political principles to appease the Lib Dems just as a means of obtaining power. I also think that by bringing in a 3 line whip over the European vote shows a total disregard of the democratic process - afterall the vote only came about because of an on line petition from the public.

Quoted from 1600

Last thing I want is to see is an end to capitalism, private property etc and end up in a nightmarish socialist society...

There is nothing wrong with socailism or communism per se, or at least the idea of these systems. Pretty much in the same way that there is nothing much wrong with capitalism 'on paper'. The problem is always people. You just can't trust them.

Quoted from upthestripes

There is nothing wrong with socailism or communism per se, or at least the idea of these systems. Pretty much in the same way that there is nothing much wrong with capitalism 'on paper'. The problem is always people. You just can't trust them.

Not sure about that? The end goal of capitalism is to accumulate as much capital as possible for the private owners of the means of production, generally through the gross exploitation of natural, economic and social resources.

Quoted from aaron rattray

what are your thoughts on him?

i personally think that he is doing a good job.

what do you think?

this has made my week!   but to be serious there all cut from the same cloth, Blair f*cked up the country and should be tried for war crimes, Cameron is making it worse.