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Sorry about this but here's my view. Total disaster JF SHOULD have taken the club into administration when we were still a going concern 7/8 years ago. My view is that he didn't for two reasons- 1 he loses mo st of the money he's put in, 2 the key point, at he loses control. Dear old John thinks he knows everything about football and for some bizarre reason thinks that at some point he'll get it right. However, just in case he doesn't he ties his loans to the clubs only asset. 2. Enter MP, JF wants him to share the future loans while retaining control, however MP can't secure his loans because good old JF has already tied up the only saleable asset. MP realises JF'S game but even after resigning from the board he still whacks in another 500k, not as a loan but as a way of stopping JF'S runaway train. JF Promptly spunks the 500k share windfall on yet another mis-guided appointment. However, JF by now has already decided he's not putting any more in which is why he allowed MP to hold enough shares to shift the balance of power. So stalemate or so it seems. Here's what I expect to happen, Neither put any more money in, MP doesn't care, he's happy to lose a million to get rid of JF. Club enters admin, the ground is part of the assets. Only one group led by MP is interested, they offer 10p in the pound. JF walks away with 250k, MP owns GTFC including ground for £1.25M. Let's see if I'm right.
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September 24, 2011, 11:27pm |
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Sorry about this but here's my view. Total disaster JF SHOULD have taken the club into administration when we were still a going concern 7/8 years ago. My view is that he didn't for two reasons- 1 he loses mo st of the money he's put in, 2 the key point, at he loses control. Dear old John thinks he knows everything about football and for some bizarre reason thinks that at some point he'll get it right. However, just in case he doesn't he ties his loans to the clubs only asset. 2. Enter MP, JF wants him to share the future loans while retaining control, however MP can't secure his loans because good old JF has already tied up the only saleable asset. MP realises JF'S game but even after resigning from the board he still whacks in another 500k, not as a loan but as a way of stopping JF'S runaway train. JF Promptly spunks the 500k share windfall on yet another mis-guided appointment. However, JF by now has already decided he's not putting any more in which is why he allowed MP to hold enough shares to shift the balance of power. So stalemate or so it seems. Here's what I expect to happen, Neither put any more money in, MP doesn't care, he's happy to lose a million to get rid of JF. Club enters admin, the ground is part of the assets. Only one group led by MP is interested, they offer 10p in the pound. JF walks away with 250k, MP owns GTFC including ground for £1.25M. Let's see if I'm right.
Yes. I think that's where it's heading too and posted something similar on another thread before I read this one.
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September 25, 2011, 1:25am |
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See one of the other, many, boring posts about schoolkids fighting over who owns the football club and it explains why the club couldnt have gone into admin but would have been wound up in the courts. I must say all these silly games that are going on is really getting on my nerves and I finally feel like saying, after 34 years of supporting them, enough is enough. I have had to put up with crap on the pitch for years now, much more of this ownership crap and its the straw that breaks the camels back
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80sglory |
September 25, 2011, 5:05am |
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"JF Promptly spunks the 500k share windfall" - look at the playing budget, sounds believable ! On your subject of Parker "can't secure his loans" (which tbh I find a bit difficult to imagine though tbf they did both agree in principle of loans of up to £350K each), something has only just occured to me. Parker said he put in shares because it generally improved the "balance sheet". Presuming he's telling the truth, does this suggest that he really DOES have a genuine long term interest in GTFC ? I did my own calcs (with challenged and suported figures) where MP acquires 75% shareholding and estimated he could buy GTFC for £1.5 million - no idea if that's possible or not. Don't like the sound of admin but how sure are you Parker would step in and be able to do all that ? Sorry if this is a silly question but could Fenty also bid for the club if it went into admin ?
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sweetGTFC |
September 25, 2011, 9:09am |
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No idea if MP will step in, but why else would he put in another 500k? I can't think of any other logical reason. Not sure if JF could also step in, no reason why not I suppose if he's no longer on the board.
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80sglory |
September 26, 2011, 4:58am |
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No idea if MP will step in, but why else would he put in another 500k?
Good question. Was it maybe already agreed with Fenty before he stepped down off the board ? Can't remember...
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September 26, 2011, 7:14am |
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If only the silly gits would work together they could achieve much more with both their wealth combined.
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September 26, 2011, 7:35am |
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If only the silly gits would work together they could achieve much more with both their wealth combined.
a massive ego in the way
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September 26, 2011, 9:46am |
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What happens if you go into admin in the BSP? 10 points deduction? If so, we could get relegated!
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What happens if you go into admin in the BSP? 10 points deduction? If so, we could get relegated!
Look at the league table ... that's a realistic possibility anyway!
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