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Citymariner
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I'm having a new kitchen fitted and just want to judge some of the timelines for the plastering.

It is a Victorian mid-terrace property.

The kitchen, utility and downstairs WC is about 3m x 5m (kitchen), 3m x 2m (Utility) and 1 x 1.5m (WC). The walls are full height (typical Victorian).

It has had all the plaster ripped off because of damp (floor has been asphalted etc.)

How long will it take roughly to get the plaster to a finished state (excluding the plaster going off) from bare brick?

I presume that means boarding, then a couple of skims to get a smooth finish.
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I'm having a new kitchen fitted and just want to judge some of the timelines for the plastering.

It is a Victorian mid-terrace property.

The kitchen, utility and downstairs WC is about 3m x 5m (kitchen), 3m x 2m (Utility) and 1 x 1.5m (WC). The walls are full height (typical Victorian).

It has had all the plaster ripped off because of damp (floor has been asphalted etc.)

How long will it take roughly to get the plaster to a finished state (excluding the plaster going off) from bare brick?

I presume that means boarding, then a couple of skims to get a smooth finish.



Once the plaster as been applied it will go off in minutes,

BUT

You will need to leave it to dry out for several weeks ( 6 ) before you emulsion or paper the walls,

I don't know much about computers or camera's , so pleased to help with building problems.


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Once the plaster as been applied it will go off in minutes,

BUT

You will need to leave it to dry out for several weeks ( 6 ) before you emulsion or paper the walls,

I don't know much about computers or camera's , so pleased to help with building problems.


Minutes? 2hrs for trowel finish depending on base.

If you back to brick then usually two seperate coats of a cement based render (24hrs each drytime minimum typically) then plaster skim coat which applied and trowelled finish could be a couple of hours.You will then have to wait for the plaster to fully dry, totally depends on the humidity of the property but could be a week, then you should only then paint with a trade emulsion which allows the wall to breathe and fully dry out 3 - 6 months approx before then fully decorating.
If however you dry line the wall, would recommend timber battens fixed to wall then plasterboards to that,as opposed to dot and dab fix if you have had damp problems, then if you use a decorated finish board then no need to plaster, just fill the joints with jointing compound. Fully decorate the next day.


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oh and forgot to mention be very careful plastering after damp course work as most companies out there will let you sort the plastering out as this gives them a get out route should the damp return " oh its your fault you plastered too soon etc"


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Minutes? 2hrs for trowel finish depending on base.

I could be a little out of date,  

BUT

40+ years ago when you skimmed a wall ( plastered ) the plaster was set in minutes,

It took at least 6 weeks to 6 moths to fully dry out, depending on what sort of heating was in place,

As I am a old git I would listen to moosey who will be a little more up to date.



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Minutes? 2hrs for trowel finish depending on base.

I could be a little out of date,  

BUT

40+ years ago when you skimmed a wall ( plastered ) the plaster was set in minutes,

It took at least 6 weeks to 6 moths to fully dry out, depending on what sort of heating was in place,

As I am a old git I would listen to moosey who will be a little more up to date.



haha, sounds like you were using clay ,straw and cow sh/t in your day.


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haha, sounds like you were using clay ,straw and cow sh/t in your day.


When I went to school we used chalk on slate,

AND

When it rained we fell off the roof.  


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When I went to school we used chalk on slate,

AND

When it rained we fell off the roof.  


haha, funny. Reminds me of one of my first jobs in building, we were building an extension to a church and when we had reached the first fix stage of the extension roof we would lay on the lower slate roof of the church sunbathing at breaktimes, the roof was at a comfy pitch for laying. Each day someone would lay just a bit further up the roof, raising the ante, by the end of the job we had developed a game of it sprinting up the first lowewr pitch of the church roof hurdling up onto the main pitch of the roof and striking a chalk mark as high as we could before gravity pulled us down. How the f@ck any of us didnt crash through the lower roof when sliding back off the main roof i dont know. The strange chalk marks on the main roof of the church remained for quite a few months after the job had finished.
And now i work in health and safety...hahahaha


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haha, funny. Reminds me of one of my first jobs in building, we were building an extension to a church and when we had reached the first fix stage of the extension roof we would lay on the lower slate roof of the church sunbathing at breaktimes, the roof was at a comfy pitch for laying. Each day someone would lay just a bit further up the roof, raising the ante, by the end of the job we had developed a game of it sprinting up the first lowewr pitch of the church roof hurdling up onto the main pitch of the roof and striking a chalk mark as high as we could before gravity pulled us down. How the f@ck any of us didnt crash through the lower roof when sliding back off the main roof i dont know. The strange chalk marks on the main roof of the church remained for quite a few months after the job had finished.
And now i work in health and safety...hahahaha


  


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Minutes? 2hrs for trowel finish depending on base.

I could be a little out of date,  

BUT

40+ years ago when you skimmed a wall ( plastered ) the plaster was set in minutes,

It took at least 6 weeks to 6 moths to fully dry out, depending on what sort of heating was in place,

As I am a old git I would listen to moosey who will be a little more up to date.



Pete, I know about leaches being used in first aid many years ago. But this one has got me intrigued.  What role exactly did moths fulfill in the building trade ?


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