England V convicts.

Broad out, Cook out, and though it pains me to say it, Panesar out. Broad isn't good enough and is probably still living off his dad's name, Cook always flatters to deceive and Panesar has not bowled well for England for ages.

Cook flatters to deceive?

He is currently ranked in the top 25 Test Batsmen in the world. He is still a youngster, as is Broad, and will get runs during this series.

How on earth can Broad still be 'living off his dads name'? Chris only played 25 tests and had a batting average below 40. Stuart is a bowler but his batting average isnt far behind his fathers!

We, English have a tendancy to over react-especially where sport is concerned. Some would have us change the entire team after we have drawn a test match although there isnt a queue of ready made replacements

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Cook flatters to deceive?

He is currently ranked in the top 25 Test Batsmen in the world. He is still a youngster, as is Broad, and will get runs during this series.

How on earth can Broad still be 'living off his dads name'? Chris only played 25 tests and had a batting average below 40. Stuart is a bowler but his batting average isnt far behind his fathers!

We, English have a tendancy to over react-especially where sport is concerned. Some would have us change the entire team after we have drawn a test match although there isnt a queue of ready made replacements

I'd agree with that but would add that I feel Broad could do with mixing his length up a bit more and generally pitching it up a little bit. I know he likes to bowl back of a length but I think he's just a bit short.

I thought Panesar batted superbly yesterday but I think Harmison has to come in for him on Thursday. Suggesting Cook is dropped is ridiculous and those saying Pietersen can't handle the big occasion are just plain wrong. Oval in 2005 anyone? He has a bit of a technical problem at the moment and his shot selection hasn't been great but he'll go and work hard on it and he'll make some big scores in the series. The best batsmen in the world can't make runs every innings/game and he's no different. I think he's still averaging over 50 in test cricket.

But we managed to rattle the aussie cage Their whingingeing captain is now acusing us of gamesmanship.
What a cheek if he'd of been in the same position he would have done the same.
Whats wound the little convict up was that in the last half hour we kept sending on the twelvth man with water batting gloves and such.
Straus said it was a way of communicating with his batsmen.
Good on him any rattling the convicts cage is quite acceptible in my book.

I've not been following him so do not know the situation but I've always thought Ryan Sidebottom was a superb bowler for England. Replace Panesar with him.

Quoted from BIGChris

Cook flatters to deceive?

He is currently ranked in the top 25 Test Batsmen in the world. He is still a youngster, as is Broad, and will get runs during this series.

How on earth can Broad still be 'living off his dads name'? Chris only played 25 tests and had a batting average below 40. Stuart is a bowler but his batting average isnt far behind his fathers!

We, English have a tendancy to over react-especially where sport is concerned. Some would have us change the entire team after we have drawn a test match although there isnt a queue of ready made replacements

I agree with all of the above.

Chris Broad lives on one successful series in Australia really.I did admire him as a cricketer though. His son will be a much bigger servant to England than his father.Ok he didn't have the best game in the world at Cardiff but his contribution was no worse than ten other players on the pitch.

And Kevin Springbok can be the most frustrating batsman I have ever watched.He can be breathtakingly brilliant,and equally rubbish.If he settles down to play test cricket he could easily be the best batsman we've seen in years he just needs to control those wild flashes that get him out.Yes,yes I know he has a brilliant batting average but think if he could cure the mad sweep to leg from two yards outside the off and concentrate on defending his leg stump on occassion (The aussies have found his achilles heel) his average would be even higher.

The only change I would cotemplate for  2nd test would be Harmo for Monty.

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The only change I would cotemplate for  2nd test would be Harmo for Monty.

That will be the only change imo.

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That will be the only change imo.

Fingers crossed Freddie is fit. Prior at 6, Broad at 7, Swann at 8 then Anderson, Onions and Harmison looks a bit fragile to me. Although Anderson and Monty batted superbly yesterday before anyone starts!  

Quoted from BIGChris

Cook flatters to deceive?

He is currently ranked in the top 25 Test Batsmen in the world. He is still a youngster, as is Broad, and will get runs during this series.

Yes he does. Far too many low scores and when the going gets tough against the bigger sides he's more often than not found wanting. But like you say, not many ready made replacements.

How on earth can Broad still be 'living off his dads name'? Chris only played 25 tests and had a batting average below 40. Stuart is a bowler but his batting average isnt far behind his fathers!

Without looking, I'm fairly certain that Broad junior's batting average is barely half that (I looked it up and in tests/ODI & first class cricket it's 24). He showed in the twenty20 where he made member up after member up that he isn't ready for international cricket.

We, English have a tendancy to over react-especially where sport is concerned. Some would have us change the entire team after we have drawn a test match although there isnt a queue of ready made replacements

Barring the excitement of just scraping a draw with our tail-enders shaming the top order, the result was embarrassing. The Aussies were probably no more than half an hour away from a crushing victory. Cutting a few under-performers would not be an over-reaction.