On Loan till the end of the season

Surprised? Not really.

If he cant get in this midfield then whats the point of him being here.

Theres clearly something amiss as since he's signed he's barely played, but as an Artell type player, I'm a little confused as to how little chance he's been given

Strange. Clearly not in the plans. Saving on wages?Making room for another midfielder? Free agent or youth team promotion....it's all very unclear,

Surely they wouldn't do this unless a free agent is coming in.

Good job our midfield is doing so well at the minute.

Hunt not in Pearson Davies ? plans either given the uncertainty about how long artell going to be here you would have thought once he has gone  he would have been brought back into the fold

I've always been less than impressed with Hunt and was surprised when Hurst actually paid money for him but, heck, the way our midfield has been playing this year, I'd have given him a chance in there by now!

The fact that he's hardly had a look-in under both Hurst and now Artell, would tend to indicate he hasn't been impressing in training.

I said previously that if Artell couldn’t get a tune out of Hunt then I’d hold my hands up and just accept he’s probably not got it in him at this level.

Really can’t understand it when you see some of the absolute junk in a town shirt though. If he can’t force his way into this team then I suppose most of it must be on him.

We needed a good Jan transfer window I reckon we are weaker than we was before it...

I mean with our midfield dominating right now and bossing the games for us currently he was never gonna get a look in.

Get this guy gone .

flipping madness after what we've seen in the middle of the park recently.

Thompson is made of paper and Andrews is shite.

Absolute joke

I seem to recall Artell was only praising Hunt a few weeks ago. I can understand Hunt wanting game time but if he has been that bad why did pay a large fee for him?

I suppose it saves wages and stops us from asking when will he play, but it all looks strange to me.

I now seriously question the man.

Was he actually watching our midfield last week or was it an avatar? If Andrews and Green are the future of our midfield then we're copulated.

Christ knows. Must be something up with him surely? See how he gets on there.

Quoted from DB

I seem to recall Artell was only praising Hunt a few weeks ago. I can understand Hunt wanting game time but if he has been that bad why did pay a large fee for him?

I suppose it saves wages and stops us from asking when will he play, but it all looks strange to me.

He’s just like Bignot, talks a load of excrement and does another thing altogether. Not that I’m a huge fan of Hunt either.

Struggled to get into a poor Oldham team too.

That's 3 managers say yeah and then nah

You’d think that he’d even make a decent option off the bench for the last 20, but given the current lot are usually 4 goals adrift at that point maybe there’s the issue.

Bit surprised by this, Hunt has been average to good at times, but our midfield is absolutely dogger at the minute, hope Thompson is fit for the weekend.

I was a fan when he was here first time and I think he has had some good games this time, yes he has had poor games but no worse than the shower of excrement that Artell has been picking.

This artell ain't gonna last 2 weeks.

Gone by march.

Great decision. You want to play football so get rid of the only available player who can pass a ball forward. 🤔
Does this mean we're going into survival mode and dispense with passing? Bizarre decision in my opinion and just wait till passes start going astray from Andrews Green and Clifton I can hear tge booing already.
De de de der der Blundell Park is falling down
Artell is a effin clown 🤡

Artell is starting to make Bignot look controlled and measured.

Hunt is hugely overrated by most. He looked good for the first 2 months then dropped off to be fairly anonymous until his loan ended. Went to Oldham and hardly played.

Gives absolutely nothing that I see. Plays too deep and slows the game down looking for a pass then goes sideways. He's certainly shown an ability to play a nice pass on occasion, but is poor at everything else and doesn't do enough that counts to carry him.

And even though I don't and never have rated him, I still think it's crazy to let him go right now. The club is a total circus.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

This artell ain't gonna last 2 weeks.

Gone by march.

It’s very hard to see him seeing out the weekend. Will be interesting to see whether he’s got the bóllocks to do the pre-match presser this week.

It would perhaps make sense if someone is coming in to replace him. But why a 3 year deal?

There has to be a good reason why he’s gone (and didn’t feature much under two managers) but he can’t play a “pivotal” role from York can he?

Yet another scapegoat for the managers' poor vision and tactics. Again he's off-loading a player that hasn't had a chance or fair run in the team to qualify any real judgement. By the end of the season we will be needing the best part of a new team (yet again) and probably end up with another bunch of misfits and another season of struggling. There's a reason Crewe showed him the door and why he hasn't been taken on until he found us mugs. The sooner he's gone, the better. From the word go I said he was another Bignot bullsh1tter.

Quoted from pen penfras

Hunt is hugely overrated by most. He looked good for the first 2 months then dropped off to be fairly anonymous until his loan ended. Went to Oldham and hardly played.

Gives absolutely nothing that I see. Plays too deep and slows the game down looking for a pass then goes sideways. He's certainly shown an ability to play a nice pass on occasion, but is poor at everything else and doesn't do enough that counts to carry him.

And even though I don't and never have rated him, I still think it's crazy to let him go right now. The club is a total circus.

Not sure anyone can argue your point and the last paragraph especially you need all available options. I wonder if we're skint?

He must hate Hurst and wants to get rid of everyone Hurst ever signed. Every day DA remains at the club more damage is done.

Quoted from GrimRob

He must hate Hurst and wants to get rid of everyone Hurst ever signed. Every day DA remains at the club more damage is done.

I want his birth certificate checking I reckon he's got to be from Frodingham Rd

I've said similar on twitter but he doesnt start Gav on Saturday I'm gonna lose my mind. he cannot, just cannot start with that central midfield 3 of last week

Quoted from GrimRob

He must hate Hurst and wants to get rid of everyone Hurst ever signed. Every day DA remains at the club more damage is done.

He's the only manager i can remember other than Brian Clough at Leeds that openly disrespects the previous manager and his tactics, shocking  

It’s lucky we’ve got the likes of Jamie Andrews (removed tongue from cheek).

We’re in a relegation battle, the manager says we have to football our way out of it and he ships out a really good footballer.

Artell is a proper sausage.

DA needs to go - he’s being allowed to destroy this Club piece by piece!!!

I mean looking at the three in the Middle on Saturday we’ve got nothing to worry about, right??!!

Lost for words!

Quoted from Hagrid

I've said similar on twitter but he doesnt start Gav on Saturday I'm gonna lose my mind. he cannot, just cannot start with that central midfield 3 of last week

Holohan is absolutely junk off the ball, lazy and doesn't track back consistently except in occasional bursts after he's trotted around doing very little.

This decision to ship Hunt out is absolutely dreadful. It's a low bar but since Artell has come in he's been the best performing central midfielder still at the club. Look at the run of games since Hurst got sacked:



Aside from the Salford game when he was injured Hunt featured in nearly all of our better results (the Mansfield and Walsall games we lost he only came on as a late sub with the game already lost). It's obvious, both statistically and to anyone with eyes that we were a better team with Hunt in midfield. Why the intercourse would we freeze him out and ship him off to York when we're persisting with a central midfield full of dreadful shite that's consistently conceding goals for fun?! The club is copulated and we'll be in non-league next season.

A decision that’s about finished me off for this season and, if we go down, for the foreseeable future. Over the years we have had some poor midfield players but the current collection is the worst in my 60+ years of going to BP.

Appreciate Hunt was everyone’s idea of a decent player but I rated him and thought if he could play further forward he could be creative and help get us some points. At least he could actually control the bloody ball, something beyond Green and Clifton, so I see little point in attending any further games as there is nobody, other than Rose, worth watching.

Really hope we stay up but given how the club is going that seems a forlorn hope. Respect to those of you who continue to attend matches and give support.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Holohan is absolutely junk off the ball, lazy and doesn't track back consistently except in occasional bursts after he's trotted around doing very little.

This decision to ship Hunt out is absolutely dreadful. It's a low bar but since Artell has come in he's been the best performing central midfielder still at the club. Look at the run of games since Hurst got sacked:



Aside from the Salford game when he was injured Hunt featured in nearly all of our better results (the Mansfield and Walsall games we lost he only came on as a late sub with the game already lost). It's obvious, both statistically and to anyone with eyes that we were a better team with Hunt in midfield. Why the intercourse would we freeze him out and ship him off to York when we're persisting with a central midfield full of dreadful shite that's consistently conceding goals for fun?! The club is copulated and we'll be in non-league next season.

Well we've got midfielders who supposedly do that, Also think thats very harsh.

6 games won this season, gav Started 5 of them... says a lot. He scores, he assists, he's the best midfielder at the club

Hunts been shipped out as clearly theres stuff behind the scenes, There has to be

Quoted from 1mickylyons

Not sure anyone can argue your point and the last paragraph especially you need all available options. I wonder if we're skint?

If what I was told is true, we could be in trouble soon and relegation would be a disaster. I don't really find it likely, because they did take over the club for the right reasons, but the goings on since December do look very much in the we're screwed mould.

Quoted from Hagrid

Well we've got midfielders who supposedly do that, Also think thats very harsh.

6 games won this season, gav Started 5 of them... says a lot. He scores, he assists, he's the best midfielder at the club

Hunts been shipped out as clearly theres stuff behind the scenes, There has to be

Oh don't get me wrong, Holohan's still by far the best remaining box to box central midfield option and I really think if we'd just played him with Thompson and Hunt for the rest of the season we'd see results improve, but this decision to jettison Hunt has ruined any chance of that. I don't want to see Clifton, Green or Andrews starting again in central midfield this season but now it looks like an inevitability that they will.

Absolute joke of a decision.

I’m going Saturday and if Thompson doesn’t play then I’ll put my hands up and wave a white flag……

Quoted from Chrisblor

Oh don't get me wrong, Holohan's still by far the best remaining box to box central midfield option and I really think if we'd just played him with Thompson and Hunt for the rest of the season we'd see results improve, but this decision to jettison Hunt has ruined any chance of that. I don't want to see Clifton, Green or Andrews starting again in central midfield this season but now it looks like an inevitability that they will.

Gav’s ok going defensive box to attacking box. The other way? Less so.

We are sleep walking into non-league.

Just do not understand the decision. Artell states he is the best technically midfielder we have, Against MK Dons,Artells first game in charge Hunt, Conteh and Glennon were the best players. Against Oxford again Conteh and Glennon until he went off were the best players.Two are gone and the third not playing as he cant defend,? then play him left side of midfield so he can knock the crosses in for  Rose or whoever he deems to put up front.

I’m not sorry to see any of them go , much of a muchness throughout the squad

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

I’m not sorry to see any of them go , much of a muchness throughout the squad

That's the way I'm feeling as well. Other than Rose, I can't think of a single player in our current squad which we would badly miss this season if they left/got injured. Very damning on the players/recruitment.

I'd have given Hunt a try on the assumption that he couldn't do any worse, but more in hope than expectation. I can't bring myself to be that bothered that he's gone.

Quoted from Maringer

That's the way I'm feeling as well. Other than Rose, I can't think of a single player in our current squad which we would badly miss this season if they left/got injured. Very damning on the players/recruitment.

I'd have given Hunt a try on the assumption that he couldn't do any worse, but more in hope than expectation. I can't bring myself to be that bothered that he's gone.

Hunts just not got the physicality for this league imo agree about rose a bright flower in a bed of weeds

Let's face it.....York could've taken anyone of our "All star" midfielders. None would be missed!!

Quoted from pen penfras

The club is a total circus.

Artell masterstroke get rid of best passer when he wants to play a so called passing game only him only him , his decisions never cease to amaze me

As I told you all at start of year , all Rose’s car pool told they are no longer required , there goes the final one.

Said my bit on Hunt many times.

There simply has to be something about him to get so many managers just not fancying him, especially after initially impressing them. I'm beyond caring on that now, clear as day that he doesn't gave a future here.

But you can't tell me he wouldn't be an improvement on the current midfield. That's the thing that's really pissing me off. Farming players out when they're better, albeit a very low bar, than what is currently in the starting eleven.

I wanted to believe in Artell. I really wanted him to transform us into an entertaining and successful side. I was prepared to wait and trust the process, accepting the ups and downs. But I'm done with him. Nothing is making any sense. He's flipping about with our league status.

When Hunt took that touch past that MK Dons midfielder, left him on his bottom and slipped the ball through to Gnahoua (?)  in the second half of Artell's first match in charge I thought we finally had a manager who could unlock his potential. Even more so after Artell waxed lyrical about his ability and his role going forward. Fast forward to today and him going to York on loan is just the latest in an odd and unsatisfying Town career, especially so as Pearson seemed to go out of his way to suggest in his recent pre-match that Hunt was in contention and always trains well.

Quoted from pen penfras

If what I was told is true, we could be in trouble soon and relegation would be a disaster. I don't really find it likely, because they did take over the club for the right reasons, but the goings on since December do look very much in the we're screwed mould.

And what have you been ‘told’ exactly, Mr Hearsay?

Quoted from fishcake63

Artell masterstroke get rid of best passer when he wants to play a so called passing game only him only him , his decisions never cease to amaze me

It's The Grimsby Why not Way

Alex Hunt is twice the player Kieran Green will ever be.

Quoted from chaos33

Alex Hunt is twice the player Kieran Green will ever be.

This.

Am i missing something here, you'd think we'd let go the next Iniesta. 'The best passer of a ball', 'That's me done with Town', 'Scapegoat, 'Absolute joke'. He's done nothing to warrant this outpouring of grief from some on here, barely an assist and a couple of goals since he signed permanently, lightweight, not quick enough, no definable output, be lucky to play another game in the EFL. If only Khouri had been given the opportunities he's had, miles more potential in my opinion.

Quoted from chaos33

Alex Hunt is twice the player Kieran Green will ever be.

There's probably a couple of posters on here who are twice the player Green will ever be! Puts in the effort but he's so far from FL standard it's depressing.

More evidence that Artell is either clueless or an absolute bullshiter!

Quoted from jimgtfc

More evidence that Artell is either clueless or an absolute bullshiter!

Or both.

Is he really any better than what we have? Just feels like fans are so unimpressed with our midfield that they think putting Hunt in there will suddenly make us better, but would he?

PH didn't play him, the Oldham manager didn't play him, and they are shoite. Maybe he just hasn't progressed how many thought he would.

Is there also case for thinking that because Artell is universally un-liked, a decision like letting Hunt go must be a daft one by a clueless manager.

I don't really have an opinion on any of those points, but just playing devils advocate. I'm now at the stage of just sitting back and seeing what transpires.

Really hoping Thompson picks up the mantle now.

Quoted from chaos33

Alex Hunt is twice the player Kieran Green will ever be.

I suspect they will both be playing in the National League next season (and neither of them with us, if we find ourselves down there as well).

Quoted from ginnywings

Is he really any better than what we have? Just feels like fans are so unimpressed with our midfield that they think putting Hunt in there will suddenly make us better, but would he?

PH didn't play him, the Oldham manager didn't play him, and they are shoite. Maybe he just hasn't progressed how many thought he would.

Is there also case for thinking that because Artell is universally un-liked, a decision like letting Hunt go must be a daft one by a clueless manager.

I don't really have an opinion on any of those points, but just playing devils advocate. I'm now at the stage of just sitting back and seeing what transpires.

Really hoping Thompson picks up the mantle now.

Thompson conspicuous by his absence from today's training video.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

This artell ain't gonna last 2 weeks.

Gone by march.

Preferably by Saturday 5.30 PM for me.

Quoted from Maringer

That's the way I'm feeling as well. Other than Rose, I can't think of a single player in our current squad which we would badly miss this season if they left/got injured. Very damning on the players/recruitment.

I'd have given Hunt a try on the assumption that he couldn't do any worse, but more in hope than expectation. I can't bring myself to be that bothered that he's gone.

I think this is where I'm at too, I'm  not a massive Hunt fan but he has looked much better than what I've seen of Andrews. From that low bar I would definitely have brought Hunt back in for a run of games. Bit of a bizarre decision to reduce our options in this key area.

Hunt for me suffers from a serious bout of Fishyitis - the definition of which is:

“For every game he doesn’t play he becomes twice as good”

If he can’t break into this midfield will we really miss him?

The last memory of Hunt he scored 1 of 7 in the FA Cup a great team goal .

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Thompson conspicuous by his absence from today's training video.

Is this a suggestion that he’s had a bust up with Artell at HT during the Stockport game? If so, we may be in real trouble….

I’d like to stipulate, we’ve been in trouble for weeks. And weeks.

I really hope he comes back, despite having an awful 45 minutes against Stockport.

I would have Hunt in the side every week as a 1-in-3 performer as it’s better than no hope at all. Now that plan is f#cked. To lose Thomson as well could possibly doom us.

Quoted from Heisenberg

Is this a suggestion that he’s had a bust up with Artell at HT during the Stockport game? If so, we may be in real trouble….

I’d like to stipulate, we’ve been in trouble for weeks. And weeks.

I really hope he comes back, despite having an awful 45 minutes against Stockport.

I would have Hunt in the side every week as a 1-in-3 performer as it’s better than no hope at all. Now that plan is f#cked. To lose Thomson as well could possibly doom us.

No suggestion at all. Just something someone else observed on X.

So Green will get injured before the end of the season, Gav is a popular player but he has trouble passing the ball and without the ball just stops running. Andrews shouldn't be anywhere near the team and Thompson seems to have beamed up to the planet that Artell had been inhabiting.

Never mind if we get stuck we can always put Hunt or Khouri in .......... then again!  

Quoted from Brummie Codfather

Hunt for me suffers from a serious bout of Fishyitis - the definition of which is:

“For every game he doesn’t play he becomes twice as good”

If he can’t break into this midfield will we really miss him?

If he can't, on ability, break into this midfield then he shouldn't be a professional footballer!

I’m pretty sure at least 90% of the reason Alex Hunt finds himself on loan to a struggling NL side is…himself.

Both Hurst and Artell have fancied him and then something  has happened to make them play inferior players ahead of him, repeatedly.

Quoted from male private Nale

As I told you all at start of year , all Rose’s car pool told they are no longer required , there goes the final one.

certainly seems to be true & i think rose could be next what happened in that car pool to upset artell so much

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

I’m pretty sure at least 90% of the reason Alex Hunt finds himself on loan to a struggling NL side is…himself.

Both Hurst and Artell have fancied him and then something  has happened to make them play inferior players ahead of him, repeatedly.

Perhaps he turned them down.

Hunt was /is the best of a bad bunch but i'm more concerned about artells statement just over a month ago "hunt is technically our most gifted player " to leaving him in stands something doesn't add up & i reckon artell is trying to show the door to hursts players too quickly after all 11th place finish & last 8 in fa cup is something this team will never see

Quoted from HertsGTFC

So Green will get injured before the end of the season, Gav is a popular player but he has trouble passing the ball and without the ball just stops running. Andrews shouldn't be anywhere near the team and Thompson seems to have beamed up to the planet that Artell had been inhabiting.

Never mind if we get stuck we can always put Hunt or Khouri in .......... then again!  

Maybe big D is actually a genius - he''s sent Amos  ,Hunt and Khouri out on loan to get fitness & confidence up  for a month to get them fired up  for the  relegation run in  ; with the NL/NLN being a stark reminder to them  of where they will return  week in week out if they don't produce the goods .

I'm pretty sure he's not and I'm clutching

Loans can normally be recalled in an emergency so if we did have an injury crisis we could bring him back.

Isn’t Khouri due back soon? Maybe he has now improved his fitness levels and is back in contention?

Quoted from Heisenberg

I would have Hunt in the side every week as a 1-in-3 performer as it’s better than no hope at all. Now that plan is f#cked. To lose Thomson as well could possibly doom us.

Is he even a 1-in-3 player? I'm not convinced I've seen him play well that many times. He looked pretty good during the first part of his first loan spell when we were in the National League, but he's not followed that up very often since his return (though he's obviously not been in the team a lot.

Quoted from RonMariner

Loans can normally be recalled in an emergency so if we did have an injury crisis we could bring him back.

Isn’t Khouri due back soon? Maybe he has now improved his fitness levels and is back in contention?

Khouri is injured

Quoted from pen penfras

If what I was told is true, we could be in trouble soon and relegation would be a disaster. I don't really find it likely, because they did take over the club for the right reasons, but the goings on since December do look very much in the we're screwed mould.

Poor form to excrement stir like that. Either have conviction in what you say and put it out there or say nothing at all.

Quoted from diehardmariner

If he can't, on ability, break into this midfield then he shouldn't be a professional footballer!

There are a few who have got into the team that shouldn't be professional footballers, why else are we languishing near the bottom of the EFL?

He’ll not be back. This is all about getting him in the shop window a bit so we can sell him on with a year left on his deal.

With him gone and Khouri injured we are really short of options in midfield.

Maybe they are lining up an out of contract signing?

I hope so because if the Hunt loan is just about saving money then we really are teetering on the brink.

Is Ainley likely to be back soon, I wonder? We know he had his illness but I seem to think the indications were that he might be back sooner than you would expect. Fitness would obviously be an issue but getting his experience back in the team for a couple of months could be helpful.

Possibly just a baseless guess.

No major loss in my opinion, talented footballer but totally incapable of impacting a game unless the other team stand off and let you play. We need grafters/battlers in the situation we are in, not lightweights who get overrun but make the occasional nice pass.

Quoted from Maringer

Is Ainley likely to be back soon, I wonder? We know he had his illness but I seem to think the indications were that he might be back sooner than you would expect. Fitness would obviously be an issue but getting his experience back in the team for a couple of months could be helpful.

Possibly just a baseless guess.

Shaun said he’s back but still has a bit of chemo to finish. Good luck to the lad some things are more important than football.

Quoted from Roast Em Bobby

No major loss in my opinion, talented footballer but totally incapable of impacting a game unless the other team stand off and let you play. We need grafters/battlers in the situation we are in, not lightweights who get overrun but make the occasional nice pass.

Don't disagree but sort of suprised

I loved his performance at MK Dons it was superb tbf .

But he failed to deliver consistently and gave the ball away in dangerous areas regularly when he did play .

The way Artell talked about him in his first few weeks , he seemed like he wanted to work with him badly - his type of player . He has binned him off after saying he will 'work with him to get better ' and then has signed Thompson who when asked  if he can adapt  his style of play he grunted something like 'yeah we will work on that ' he ain't changing a 30+ year old seasoned pro , and coach him into something like a 19 year old at Crewe. He seemingly is already injured or out of favour - the whole thing is a car crash.

He's effectively lost the 2 CM players who could potentially play 'his way ' Hunt , Conteh (I know he couldn't likely do anything about that ) . Artell seems a contradiction character to me . I'm still seething about last Saturday tbh , it's normally worn off by now .

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Poor form to excrement stir like that. Either have conviction in what you say and put it out there or say nothing at all.

There’s been a lot of it about…

There's clearly an issue with him. Still, I'll categorically say right now that I'll be surprised if we stay up if we have to play a midfield of Green, Clifton and Andrews for the rest of the season.

Quoted from Heisenberg

Is this a suggestion that he’s had a bust up with Artell at HT during the Stockport game? If so, we may be in real trouble….

I’d like to stipulate, we’ve been in trouble for weeks. And weeks.

I really hope he comes back, despite having an awful 45 minutes against Stockport.

I would have Hunt in the side every week as a 1-in-3 performer as it’s better than no hope at all. Now that plan is f#cked. To lose Thomson as well could possibly doom us.

This is really concerning me too, heard the rumour on here that Artell had a bust up with Thompson at half time, he doesn't feature in the squad the next week and Humberside don't raise it like might be expected. Not heard hide nor hair of him since.

IF, and it's a big IF, Artell has had a bust up with Thompson, who was surely our best replacement for conteh, and isn't going to play him any more, 3 weeks into a 1 and a half year contract and the midst of a relegation battle then I think we may be doomed.

Poojah recently wrote a list of all the hallmarks of a manager/team that have completely lost it and noted we met every single one with the exception of a disciplinary issue. IF the above is the case then that will be a complete clean sweep, Bingo, on the list. If we did then I think we could lay claim to the basket case status that clubs normally have to be in in order to be relegated from league 2. But it would be an exceptionally quick coming apart at the seams.

This Thompson thing has concerned me for a little while but I didn't want to say anything. It could be that Hunt going is just Artell not fancying a player who massively flatters to deceive. A player who can control the ball well and pick a pass but all too often hangs on to it for too long in a dangerous area and loses it, or misplaces a simple pass, or who chooses a pass that he can't quite make. A terrible decision maker in other words, and physically weak to add to that. In which case I would accept it, I'd have tried him further up the pitch away from our own goal rather than some of the shite we've been playing but I can understand if that's why he's got rid. BUT if it's due to Artell having had a disagreement behind the scenes with him and so wanting him out, and combined with the Thompson situation, when our position is so dire and our midfield choices so poor then it really does worry me. And I was already flipping worried.

I just hope my suspicions about the Thompson situation are completely unfounded.

Quoted from toontown

This is really concerning me too, heard the rumour on here that Artell had a bust up with Thompson at half time, he doesn't feature in the squad the next week and Humberside don't raise it like might be expected. Not heard hide nor hair of him since.

IF, and it's a big IF, Artell has had a bust up with Thompson, who was surely our best replacement for conteh, and isn't going to play him any more, 3 weeks into a 1 and a half year contract and the midst of a relegation battle then I think we may be doomed.

Poojah recently wrote a list of all the hallmarks of a manager/team that have completely lost it and noted we met every single one with the exception of a disciplinary issue. IF the above is the case then that will be a complete clean sweep, Bingo, on the list. If we did then I think we could lay claim to the basket case status that clubs normally have to be in in order to be relegated from league 2. But it would be an exceptionally quick coming apart at the seams.

This Thompson thing has concerned me for a little while but I didn't want to say anything. It could be that Hunt going is just Artell not fancying a player who massively flatters to deceive. A player who can control the ball well and pick a pass but all too often hangs on to it for too long in a dangerous area and loses it, or misplaces a simple pass, or who chooses a pass that he can't quite make. A terrible decision maker in other words, and physically weak to add to that. In which case I would accept it, I'd have tried him further up the pitch away from our own goal rather than some of the shite we've been playing but I can understand if that's why he's got rid. BUT if it's due to Artell having had a disagreement behind the scenes with him and so wanting him out, and combined with the Thompson situation, when our position is so dire and our midfield choices so poor then it really does worry me. And I was already flipping worried.

I just hope my suspicions about the Thompson situation are completely unfounded.

I guess we will find out at 2pm on Saturday or after the game .

Didn't look to be any issues with Thompson when they were training on Bradley today

Quoted from Norseman

Didn't look to be any issues with Thompson when they were training on Bradley today

Good. We certainly need him to perform. Maybe him and Holohan to start?

Quoted from RonMariner

Good. We certainly need him to perform. Maybe him and Holohan to start?

After last saturday, khouri’s loan, and hunt’s subsequent departure, do we have any other option?

With all the ex Town players York will soon be a better team than us.

Quoted from golfer

With all the ex Town players York will soon be a better team than us.

Providing they stay up I'd expect Gav to go there next season TBH.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Providing they stay up I'd expect Gav to go there next season TBH.

Could also see Gav going back to Hartlepool.

Is it also concerning that Morecambe have added a striker to their ranks (Jordy Hiwula) when we seem so apparently threadbare in that department?

Quoted from Son of Cod

Could also see Gav going back to Hartlepool.

Lives in Hull doesn’t he - if York stay up that will be a convenient option? They will pay as well or better than Pools I would have thought.

Good to hear DA explanation about all the departures and illnesses or injuries

Also good to hear him explain what data is being examined and what it’s saying. Based on what DA is saying we could be on the brink of improving the points column

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

Good to hear DA explanation about all the departures and illnesses or injuries

Also good to hear him explain what data is being examined and what it’s saying. Based on what DA is saying we could be on the brink of improving the points column

You got a link to it?

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

You got a link to it?

His 19 minute interview is on the bbc Humberside link

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

His 19 minute interview is on the bbc Humberside link

Cheers fella

Hunt and Amos both substituted at half time

Hunt lost possession in the middle of the park which led to the first goal, hopefully this loan will help him cut things like that out

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Providing they stay up I'd expect Gav to go there next season TBH.

The way we get rid of good players it'll most likely be Mr. Rose

Quoted from golfer

The way we get rid of good players it'll most likely be Mr. Rose

I worry that Danny Rose will ask for a transfer at the end of this season unless we stay up and commit to team strengthening

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

I worry that Danny Rose will ask for a transfer at the end of this season unless we stay up and commit to team strengthening

I suspect Rose will want to leave in the summer regardless of what division we are in. And if he does, you can’t really blame him, can you?

Probably knocked years off his career being flogged week in week out , he was used a lot differently by Big Steve at stevenage . Wouldn't blame him to want away at all .

Quoted from Mappers

Probably knocked years off his career being flogged week in week out , he was used a lot differently by Big Steve at stevenage . Wouldn't blame him to want away at all .

Donny would be an obvious move - he’s from Barnsley.

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I suspect Rose will want to leave in the summer regardless of what division we are in. And if he does, you can’t really blame him, can you?

I wouldn’t blame him at all, especially if we are relegated.

Quoted from Poojah

I suspect Rose will want to leave in the summer regardless of what division we are in. And if he does, you can’t really blame him, can you?

I'm sure if he keeps his scoring tally going this season then we'll get offers, bigger money, closer to home perhaps and even more appealing now he's got less lads in his car share pool.

York sack Ardley.

Quoted from Mappers

Probably knocked years off his career being flogged week in week out , he was used a lot differently by Big Steve at stevenage . Wouldn't blame him to want away at all .

Yes, but he's also already made more starts than he did for Stevenage and scored twice the amount of goals.

Quoted from Brummie Codfather

Hunt lost possession in the middle of the park which led to the first goal, hopefully this loan will help him cut things like that out

Watched the highlights and he was also robbed earlier, doing his usual of dithering on the ball when surrounded instead of getting rid, right in the middle of the York half in the centre of the pitch. The opposition should have scored from that but didn't.

Perhaps it was another Carlisle away game for him, he's simply got to learn from these things. If ardley knew it was a must not lose game for him then perhaps no surprise he didn't want the risk of Hunt in there for the second half.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I'm sure if he keeps his scoring tally going this season then we'll get offers, bigger money, closer to home perhaps and even more appealing now he's got less lads in his car share pool.

Doubt it. He's 30 and is seen as a league two stalwart. Done great for us and must stay fit for the run in or I would be ever more worried than I am now.

Quoted from fishboyUTM

Doubt it. He's 30 and is seen as a league two stalwart. Done great for us and must stay fit for the run in or I would be ever more worried than I am now.

If I were Steve Cotterill, I’d be advocating some firm challenges on Rose on Saturday afternoon. It’s a worry.

The thing is with Rose is that he's been very much underappreciated at previous clubs. I can't speak for the Stevenage lot but certainly Mansfield fans don't massively rate him and Cobblers fans think he is absolutely crap. The man is a massive fans favourite here and playing really well. Perhaps I'm being naive, but I'd like to think that might count for something.

Quoted from Son of Cod

The thing is with Rose is that he's been very much underappreciated at previous clubs. I can't speak for the Stevenage lot but certainly Mansfield fans don't massively rate him and Cobblers fans think he is absolutely crap. The man is a massive fans favourite here and playing really well. Perhaps I'm being naive, but I'd like to think that might count for something.

I think your point will only count for something if we stay up.

Quoted from Son of Cod

The thing is with Rose is that he's been very much underappreciated at previous clubs. I can't speak for the Stevenage lot but certainly Mansfield fans don't massively rate him and Cobblers fans think he is absolutely crap. The man is a massive fans favourite here and playing really well. Perhaps I'm being naive, but I'd like to think that might count for something.

Stevenage fans loved him , all wanted him to stay . Pretty sure he got offered a new contract there aswell.

Quoted from Mappers

Stevenage fans loved him , all wanted him to stay . Pretty sure he got offered a new contract there aswell.

He was still under contract. We paid a fee for him.

Anyone know what’s happened with Hunt at York?

He played the first half of one game, was hooked at half time and has been on the bench for the next two games. Is he injured or just not fancied? Worrying if it is the latter.

Quoted from Marinerdan

Anyone know what’s happened with Hunt at York?

He played the first half of one game, was hooked at half time and has been on the bench for the next two games. Is he injured or just not fancied? Worrying if it is the latter.

probs says a lot doesnt it...

They're really struggling as well, I see Amos was also benched for the last game

Amos started on the bench Tuesday night, came on at half-time and was hooked 10 mins later. Got to assume that’s an injury then, as it would have to be quite the performance to get dragged off after 10 mins.

Artell's explanation for Hunt going on loan was fair, get him to learn how to influence games somewhere else (No different really in us taking young lads on loan from teams further up the chain).  

But not sure York, at the minute, is the best place to do that.  They're desperate and I can imagine their need is more about someone getting stuck in than Hunt experimenting a bit with his play.

Well he can’t get in our team. Couldn’t get in Oldham team, can’t get in York team. 3 year deal ffs

Well he can’t get in our team. Couldn’t get in Oldham team, can’t get in York team. 3 year deal ffs

Quoted from Marinerdan

Anyone know what’s happened with Hunt at York?

He played the first half of one game, was hooked at half time and has been on the bench for the next two games. Is he injured or just not fancied? Worrying if it is the latter.

Same sort of thing that happened under Hurst and Artell. There is something we aren't seeing here. Managers just don't feel they can take the risk with him and feel the risk is too big.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Artell's explanation for Hunt going on loan was fair, get him to learn how to influence games somewhere else (No different really in us taking young lads on loan from teams further up the chain).  

But not sure York, at the minute, is the best place to do that.  They're desperate and I can imagine their need is more about someone getting stuck in than Hunt experimenting a bit with his play.

Echoes my thoughts.

Quoted from AncientExiledMariner

Same sort of thing that happened under Hurst and Artell. There is something we aren't seeing here. Managers just don't feel they can take the risk with him and feel the risk is too big.

It's very easy to see imho, he does some good things, but that is massively outweighed by his weakness n propensity to give the ball away in dangerous areas. He causes more problems than he solves.

I think that Hunt lost possession in midfield in his first game on loan.  York conceded from the error.  He has not been in favour since.

In more positive news Amos and The Shop combined to score a goal a few games ago.

Crookes is out injured for the next 6 weeks.  

Paddy McLaughlin is still a starter for York.

York are in serious risk of relegation.

They lost 6-1  last night . Their fans don't rate Hunt at all . Seems the wrong place at the wrong time for him as they are in meltdown over there .

Quoted from Mappers

They lost 6-1  last night . Their fans don't rate Hunt at all . Seems the wrong place at the wrong time for him as they are in meltdown over there .

Know a couple of York fans and it's carnage over there. Owners are reimbursing fans who went to Altrincham last night.

Quoted from Mappers

They lost 6-1  last night . Their fans don't rate Hunt at all . Seems the wrong place at the wrong time for him as they are in meltdown over there .

Sounds like the loan he had at Oldham when at Wednesday

Well, if Hunt can't make an impression at York then his next home might well be Scunthorpe Utd.

The way its gone with Hunt is frustrating and annoying. The lad has obvious talent but doesn't seem to know how to harness it properly, kind of reminds me of Dom Vose to a certain degree, shame for the boy really.

Couldn’t have gone much worse for him this loan. Starts the first match, gives the ball away right in front of his bench & almost costs them a goal, does the same thing in the same position about 10 mins later and they do concede, dragged off at HT and the manager gets sacked. Benched for the next few matches, finally gets a start & they get pumped 6-1 in a game where the owners have reimbursed their fans because they were so bad.

Captain Shop said that the team were a shambles last night.  Quite ironic given that The Shambles are in the centre of the city.

Maybe he meant the team were in the Shambles, couple of decent pubs there...

Feels like serious make or break time for Hunt.  I know Artell has said he wants him back here and richer for his experience at York, but the lad has to start making an impression at some point.

I've said many times now about the lad getting a fair crack at the whip and I do firmly believe he has some serious ability.  But there's a common denominator throughout his lack of game time during his career, he's 24 in May yet he's failed to make 100 appearances as a professional, including EFL Trophy games.  

Needs to get himself on those Messi human growth hormone injections in the summer.

Quoted from ska face

Needs to get himself on those Messi human growth hormone injections in the summer.

I'm not sure that they can help you consistently pass the ball to a teammate. A bit chunkier, but still giving away possession in dangerous areas wouldn't make him a better player.

I'm sorry to say that I just don't think he's got what it takes. All the ability in the world in training counts for nothing if you can't deal with the pressures of a game.

Very hard to disagree with that Maringer.

I really thought this loan spell would do him the world of good, a Charles Vernam to Chorley sized shot in the arm.  Yet it doesn't seem to have at all.  

Crumb of hope, albeit from a younger and less experienced (in terms of games played) point of view, in Jack Lester going on loan to Doncaster having done little when given a chance here.  Didn't impress at Donny yet came back with the bit absolutely between his teeth and looked a different animal altogether.

I say crumb, it's more like a that bit of a Rich Tea that's still in your hand after dunking in the mug of tea.  It's had enough tea on it to soften and you know full well as soon as you open your finger and thumb it's more of a paste than anything else.

Mmmmmm, rich tea biscuits. Tea’s too wet without one.

Quoted from Maringer

I'm not sure that they can help you consistently pass the ball to a teammate. A bit chunkier, but still giving away possession in dangerous areas wouldn't make him a better player.

I'm sorry to say that I just don't think he's got what it takes. All the ability in the world in training counts for nothing if you can't deal with the pressures of a game.

I think that's where this loan will make or break him. When he finds his way out of the team, he's got learn the mistakes quickly, improve in high pressure situations and make his minutes count. Every time he gets on the pitch, he's got to show he's present to dig the team out of the excrement, know when to risk it, and when to protect possession and when there is a bit more luxury to try something aggressive.

He's gifted, but he's got to learn when to use his gift, and when to graft and put the team first.

I really hope he takes this opportunity, because it sure feels like time is running out for him to hit the standards required to be a football league player.

Quoted from AncientExiledMariner

I think that's where this loan will make or break him. When he finds his way out of the team, he's got learn the mistakes quickly, improve in high pressure situations and make his minutes count. Every time he gets on the pitch, he's got to show he's present to dig the team out of the excrement, know when to risk it, and when to protect possession and when there is a bit more luxury to try something aggressive.

He's gifted, but he's got to learn when to use his gift, and when to graft and put the team first.

I really hope he takes this opportunity, because it sure feels like time is running out for him to hit the standards required to be a football league player.

Totally agree with you on this, I wonder if his ears are now ringing with the comment Hurst gave after his Carlisle away debacle performance last year (very very reminiscent of his York debut). It was something like "players can make mistakes but they have to learn from them or else they won't be playing football here, and if they keep on not learning from them they won't be playing professional football at all because it's a very competitive business".

Quoted from toontown

Totally agree with you on this, I wonder if his ears are now ringing with the comment Hurst gave after his Carlisle away debacle performance last year (very very reminiscent of his York debut). It was something like "players can make mistakes but they have to learn from them or else they won't be playing football here, and if they keep on not learning from them they won't be playing professional football at all because it's a very competitive business".

I remember that quote, and you're spot on. Hurst was on the money with quite a few things he said.

Especially when they were commenting how good a trainer he was. If he's working hard as SP said, and gifted. It's not that, then it must be something along those lines. I think the reason he's been hooked a few times early even though he hasn't done badly is because he's getting instructions and not following them repeatedly. Maybe it's unintentional, but if so, these shocks have to push him to take things on board.

Quoted from AncientExiledMariner

I think that's where this loan will make or break him. When he finds his way out of the team, he's got learn the mistakes quickly, improve in high pressure situations and make his minutes count. Every time he gets on the pitch, he's got to show he's present to dig the team out of the excrement, know when to risk it, and when to protect possession and when there is a bit more luxury to try something aggressive.

He's gifted, but he's got to learn when to use his gift, and when to graft and put the team first.

I really hope he takes this opportunity, because it sure feels like time is running out for him to hit the standards required to be a football league player.

Not much different than most of our midfielders, even on Tuesday when we were battling hard there was an occasion in the second half where Holohan gave the ball away, they broke and Holohan just trundled back making no effort to put his mistake right and that's not the first time he has done that.

I also thought Clifton went AWOL for most of the game.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Not much different than most of our midfielders, even on Tuesday when we were battling hard there was an occasion in the second half where Holohan gave the ball away, they broke and Holohan just trundled back making no effort to put his mistake right and that's not the first time he has done that.

I also thought Clifton went AWOL for most of the game.

Just watch Eisa, he did the same two or three times he really needs to work harder before he wins me over.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Not much different than most of our midfielders, even on Tuesday when we were battling hard there was an occasion in the second half where Holohan gave the ball away, they broke and Holohan just trundled back making no effort to put his mistake right and that's not the first time he has done that.

I also thought Clifton went AWOL for most of the game.

Clifton kept Stephen Wearne very quiet all night, so much so I forgot he was even playing... say what you want about Harry but defensively he's very very good. His ability to recover after getting beat is second to none. Made a very good tackle to put it out for a corner after he was beaten in the second half. Being part of a back 5 that's been the main reason for this upturn in fortune is not going AWOL.. it's standing up and being counted for when it mattered most. Especially keeping a clean sheet against the most inform team and probably the best footballing side in the division. To compare Clifton to Hunt is ludicrous, no matter how bad a game he's having you know you're getting 110% from Harry, technically he has his difficencies and that's why he plays for Grimsby Town... but he'll never ever shy away from the ball or a tackle and you can rely on him busting his balls for the football club every single time he pulls on the black and white opposed to a lad that's had a handful of good games for the club in 2/3 years.

I do wonder what has gone wrong with Hunt. He came to us on loan and could place the ball on an attacker's head from a corner or free kick. He had a good work rate and then went back to Sheffield.

After that, it was a downward trajectory for him. I feel sorry for the lad but unless he gets his mojo back pretty dam quick I think he can hang up his boots.

Some great post on here, some odd ones where posters who have never been anywhere near kicking a ball professionally writing off a young kid trying his best to make his way.

Mappers called it right, wrong loan at the wrong time for Alex Hunt

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Some great post on here, some odd ones where posters who have never been anywhere near kicking a ball professionally writing off a young kid trying his best to make his way.

Young kid? He's 24 in a couple of months!

I'd love him to succeed, especially as we paid a fee and he's got another year on his deal, but other than a brief spell in the National League where he did well, he has shown very little in most of the games I've seen him play since his return.

Perhaps he can turn the corner, but he's not a young kid any longer. Glennon is six months older than Hunt. Tharme is a little over 1 year older than him. Nobody would call either of them a young kid.

I'd personally be surprised if Hunt is starting games after the summer, unless something changes. On the assumption that we survive this season and Artell rebuilds in the summer with a view to playing a more expansive game, he might be given another chance, but he's running out of time to prove himself.

Quoted from Maringer

Young kid? He's 24 in a couple of months!

I'd love him to succeed, especially as we paid a fee and he's got another year on his deal, but other than a brief spell in the National League where he did well, he has shown very little in most of the games I've seen him play since his return.

Perhaps he can turn the corner, but he's not a young kid any longer. Glennon is six months older than Hunt. Tharme is a little over 1 year older than him. Nobody would call either of them a young kid.

I'd personally be surprised if Hunt is starting games after the summer, unless something changes. On the assumption that we survive this season and Artell rebuilds in the summer with a view to playing a more expansive game, he might be given another chance, but he's running out of time to prove himself.

He'll surely be given a chance in pre season to earn a squad place. I personally doubt he will see out his contract with us though.

I think we all thought this season was pivotal for him and it's not happened for him, so I think the odds are now strongly against it working out here.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Some great post on here, some odd ones where posters who have never been anywhere near kicking a ball professionally writing off a young kid trying his best to make his way.

Mappers called it right, wrong loan at the wrong time for Alex Hunt

I get that you want to support Alex Hunt, who’s our player and respect that.  The “Graham Souness” argument of if you’re not a professional so you don’t get to have an opinion really grinds my gears.

We’ve all seen him play and can come to our own opinions, I wouldn’t boo him at a game or anything but I reserve the right to cringe if I see him starting in midfield for us due to how often he gives the ball away in dangerous situations - as he’s done at York.  Ideally he’ll get another chance there and take it but the evidence suggests that’s not likely.

But again as never being a pro my opinion is worth intercourse all so feel free to not read this

I always wanted to see Khouri, Conteh and Hunt as a combination and for obvious reasons it never did/will happen but I felt it could have been an exciting trio in midfield in terms of technical capability and balance .

Whether Hunt's race is run here , time will tell - Artell seems a straight shooter so assuming he reverts to a more passing based game next time out and with what he's said ,  Hunt  might well get one last chance in pre-season to impress . I fear for him having a career at all in the game if it doesn't work out as the lower you get the more physical and less footballing it is in general .

A player with ability and potential but at 24 we've not seen enough of either.Hes a player on form you'd build a side around and carry via two yard dogs.Sadly he has never warranted such backing Hopefully he is told last chance saloon ups his game and gets us all off our seats

Quoted from Brummie Codfather

I get that you want to support Alex Hunt, who’s our player and respect that.  The “Graham Souness” argument of if you’re not a professional so you don’t get to have an opinion really grinds my gears.

We’ve all seen him play and can come to our own opinions, I wouldn’t boo him at a game or anything but I reserve the right to cringe if I see him starting in midfield for us due to how often he gives the ball away in dangerous situations - as he’s done at York.  Ideally he’ll get another chance there and take it but the evidence suggests that’s not likely.

But again as never being a pro my opinion is worth intercourse all so feel free to not read this

Illustrate to me where I said you couldn't have an opinion?

Quoted from Mappers

I always wanted to see Khouri, Conteh and Hunt as a combination and for obvious reasons it never did/will happen but I felt it could have been an exciting trio in midfield in terms of technical capability and balance .

Whether Hunt's race is run here , time will tell - Artell seems a straight shooter so assuming he reverts to a more passing based game next time out and with what he's said ,  Hunt  might well get one last chance in pre-season to impress . I fear for him having a career at all in the game if it doesn't work out as the lower you get the more physical and less footballing it is in general .

I haven’t seen Khouri play in so long now, but I hope he gets fit as I feel he has a bright future here.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Illustrate to me where I said you couldn't have an opinion?

Mate it’s the whole tone of your argument but let’s leave it as this is a place for opinions - not a forum for ex pros

I think Hunt has potential but trying to get a tune out of him is a different matter. I've heard he looks quality in training but as soon as he gets infront of a crowd it's like he loses confidence and becomes half a player Unfortunately if DA doesn't give him another chance after his loan I can see the lad literally disappearing down the football pyramid.

Nothing coming out of York is positive neither

It's a poor choice of club to loan him to for me. Not the first time either, Darren Moore recalled him back to Wednesday from us, did little with him then he ended up at a very weak relegation -bound Oldham. His game is all about finding that little bit of space and building attacks, can't see how that will work in a pretty awful and confidence shot York side.

Quoted from Brummie Codfather

I get that you want to support Alex Hunt, who’s our player and respect that.  The “Graham Souness” argument of if you’re not a professional so you don’t get to have an opinion really grinds my gears.

We’ve all seen him play and can come to our own opinions, I wouldn’t boo him at a game or anything but I reserve the right to cringe if I see him starting in midfield for us due to how often he gives the ball away in dangerous situations - as he’s done at York.  Ideally he’ll get another chance there and take it but the evidence suggests that’s not likely.

But again as never being a pro my opinion is worth intercourse all so feel free to not read this

It's probably the saddest part of football most of us don't want to dwell on, and its that 0.012 % of academy youngsters make it to pro. (according to Michael Calvin, author of the book "No Hunger in Paradise: The Players. The Journey. The Dream,")
Alex might be just hanging in as he travels down the scale, I mean Town are in 4th tier so the bottom is not that far below us. Shame but there it is.

York fan here.

Hunt made a slow start to his loan but has been improving each game. Has that bit of quality. Maybe needs to impose himself that bit more, but promising signs.

Danny Amos has been playing. Looks ok but nowt special. He's our only natural LB. Good enough but only just.

The Shop is still plodding on. He seems to have lost all ability to control the ball but is still a useful late sub as a battering ram.

Quoted from Wizwag

York fan here.

Hunt made a slow start to his loan but has been improving each game. Has that bit of quality. Maybe needs to impose himself that bit more, but promising signs.

Danny Amos has been playing. Looks ok but nowt special. He's our only natural LB. Good enough but only just.

The Shop is still plodding on. He seems to have lost all ability to control the ball but is still a useful late sub as a battering ram.

He never had the ability to control a ball

Quoted from Norseman

He never had the ability to control a ball

He's taken it to new levels now though. A few weeks back he started a game, had about a dozen touches all of which lost the ball, sometimes in comical fashion. Was wheeled off early. Still has the knack of scrambling one in from close range as a sub though.

State of this thread 🙄

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He's taken it to new levels now though. A few weeks back he started a game, had about a dozen touches all of which lost the ball, sometimes in comical fashion. Was wheeled off early. Still has the knack of scrambling one in from close range as a sub though.

When Lenny first came to us, a Bury supporting friend told me that his second touch was always a sliding tackle because his first touch was shite. Nothing's changed but fair play to him, he's made career from it.

Quoted from Wizwag

He's taken it to new levels now though. A few weeks back he started a game, had about a dozen touches all of which lost the ball, sometimes in comical fashion. Was wheeled off early. Still has the knack of scrambling one in from close range as a sub though.

Just seen the result, huge win that, in a way surprised Neal Ardley got sacked, would have thought he would turn it around.

I'm glad you look like you will stay up. We maybe playing you next season.

4 Town players involved in win over Chesterfield.  The much-maligned Hunt started.  ( Against a Div 2 club).  

4 Town players involved in win over Chesterfield.  The much-maligned Hunt started.  ( Against a Div 2 club).  

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

4 Town players involved in win over Chesterfield.  The much-maligned Hunt started.  ( Against a Div 2 club).  

Any feedback on his performance?

Quoted from forza ivano

Any feedback on his performance?

Getting better as he’s settled, so a York supporting friend tells me. Had a shocking debut then didn’t get a start after Ardley was sacked. Started the last three which they’ve won, including wins against two of the top three.

He can't be doing any worse than the current shower Artell keeps picking.

Now that they are safe, maybe we could recall him? Might bring some creativity to midfield playing alongside Thomson who provides the grit?.

Quoted from RonMariner

Now that they are safe, maybe we could recall him? Might bring some creativity to midfield playing alongside Thomson who provides the grit?.

Surely you’re aware that’s not possible given the transfer window

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Surely you’re aware that’s not possible given the transfer window

Can't loans be recalled at any time?

I trawled the local reports and found this gem:

“Brilliant Hunt wins back the ball in midfield and sets up the equaliser”.  (Against Chesterfield).

He stayed on for the full 90 minutes.  He was also the only York player to get booked.

If he he gets more game time, and improves his confidence, then we might need him next season.

Quoted from RonMariner

Can't loans be recalled at any time?

Only during an active window mate.

Quoted from Meza

Only during an active window mate.

Fair enough. I didn't know that.

That's my master plan scuppered then!

Quoted from RonMariner

Fair enough. I didn't know that.

That's my master plan scuppered then!

You tend to see clubs loan players out at the beginning of the season (season long loan) but can recall them in January if the added it to the deal etc.

Was Hunt signed on an 'emergency' loan though (something that NL clubs can do but FL clubs can't)? If so, can he not be recalled?

Quoted from Meza

Only during an active window mate.

Not sure that's true. You can't recall any loan during the first 28 days, but Bradford City recalled their keeper from Clee Town on Thursday.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Not sure that's true. You can't recall any loan during the first 28 days, but Bradford City recalled their keeper from Clee Town on Thursday.

You can only recall them during windows EXCEPT keepers. If you only have 2 fit keepers you can recall one

Though Alex certainly struggled for consistency I can’t imagine he’d be any worse than what we have now.

Other than Gav’s through ball for Wilson’s goal at Gillingham our midfield haven’t done anything worthy of note since.

I hope we stay up & get to see Hunt alongside Thompson next season and all being well at least one other player who can pass a football

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Though Alex certainly struggled for consistency I can’t imagine he’d be any worse than what we have now.

Other than Gav’s through ball for Wilson’s goal at Gillingham our midfield haven’t done anything worthy of note since.

I hope we stay up & get to see Hunt alongside Thompson next season and all being well at least one other player who can pass a football

Can't see all the fuss about Thompson to be honest. Flatters to deceives and probably gives the ball away more than Gav.

Opinions are funny really, I think Thompson is comfortably our best midfielder and has struggled slightly due to the guff alongside him.  Perhaps I being a tad generous with that assessment

Quoted from Brummie Codfather

Opinions are funny really, I think Thompson is comfortably our best midfielder and has struggled slightly due to the guff alongside him.  Perhaps I being a tad generous with that assessment

Thompson is exactly the player we needed for a battle - Alex isn’t. That said, our midfield is woefully lacking in quality.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Thompson is exactly the player we needed for a battle - Alex isn’t. That said, our midfield is woefully lacking in quality.

I take it you haven't seen Barrow's second goal.

I will reserve judgement on him.

I remember many on here when Mullarkey signed saying he looked a real good player, yet now many seem to think he is a crap fullback.

Quoted from arryarryarry

I take it you haven't seen Barrow's second goal.

I will reserve judgement on him.

I remember many on here when Mullarkey signed saying he looked a real good player, yet now many seem to think he is a crap fullback.

Yep. I’ve seen it. Reminiscent of several goals that Holohan has given away this season.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Yep. I’ve seen it. Reminiscent of several goals that Holohan has given away this season.

I think Holohan has been a good player for us but in the main has been poor this season, so not sure what point you are trying to make there.

Quoted from arryarryarry

I think Holohan has been a good player for us but in the main has been poor this season, so not sure what point you are trying to make there.

Most of our midfielders have made errors that have resulted in goals this season. Some have been called out to a greater extent than others.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Most of our midfielders have made errors that have resulted in goals this season. Some have been called out to a greater extent than others.

Yes, we give the ball away in midfield, and so many teams seem to have players with the ability to capitalise on these errors  and find the net. We on the other hand can't be relied upon to finish a sitter more often than not.

It's clear that, whether we manage to stay up or not, our squad just isn't good enough. We don't seem to have players that can manage the basics that so many other teams seem well capable of.

Whatever happens in the next month we need a serious overhaul in the summer. Tinkering with this squad isn't going to get us very far at all.    

I kind of see why there is the discussion about Thompson and clearly the mistake the other day was shite but from what I have seen he has much more about him than most of the others, especially the midfielders. I've lost count of the times this season that I have been thinking/shouting "where the fock is the midfielder".

Quoted from arryarryarry

I take it you haven't seen Barrow's second goal.

I will reserve judgement on him.

I remember many on here when Mullarkey signed saying he looked a real good player, yet now many seem to think he is a crap fullback.

Maybe that tells you more about us than him.

Quoted from cardiffmariner

Maybe that tells you more about us than him.

Exactly my point, that is why I don't go overboard about a new player or manager like some do, and some now seem to think Johnson is the answer to our midfield problems. I have yet to be convinced, he may well turn out to be a very good signing but at the moment he seems just as liable to make a member up as the rest of them.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Exactly my point, that is why I don't go overboard about a new player or manager like some do, and some now seem to think Johnson is the answer to our midfield problems. I have yet to be convinced, he may well turn out to be a very good signing but at the moment he seems just as liable to make a member up as the rest of them.

Thompson is being asked to do a job he's never done before , when we revert to trying to play the ball in to him , in the middle of the park it doesn't end well  . He's a busy ,tenacious midfield player and a good one at that - a mainstay in the Wycombe promotion team that made it to the Champ and one Cheltenham fans  were slightly upset they let go .

Artell's comment when he signed was something along the lines of ' he's not used to being a passing midfielder but I will coach that into him , we will change that' . I am not sure you can 'change' a 30+ senior pro to the degree he maybe feels he can .

It's clear to me at least we have the players to survive quite comfortably when we play to our strengths , but when we try to implement any sort of 'Artell ball' style it quickly goes pear , it's certainly too early in the piece in my mind for that . Hopefully today we revert back to standard grinding/league 2 style and pull a result out because if we start faffing around with the ball it's clearly something we are not capable of and will just lose again .

Looks like he's found his feet watching the highlights, good deliveries one thing we have been lacking in consistency.

I genuinely hope to see him back in a GTFC shirt.

Quoted from Mappers

Thompson is being asked to do a job he's never done before , when we revert to trying to play the ball in to him , in the middle of the park it doesn't end well  . He's a busy ,tenacious midfield player and a good one at that - a mainstay in the Wycombe promotion team that made it to the Champ and one Cheltenham fans  were slightly upset they let go .

Technically, he's actually pretty good with the ball at his feet. His problem is that he often wins the ball but then holds onto it much too long so any impetus is lost and it allows the opposition to tackle back so he often loses it again!

I suppose the fact that our midfielders and forwards aren't exactly showing for the ball much of the time, but if he kept it simple, he'd be more effective than he has already been.

Looking at that York highlights clip, accepting that it's very difficult to make a serious assessment on it, looks like York have paired Hunt in midfield with a bit of a terrier type who hustles and wins back possession, freeing Hunt up to be more creative.  On paper he might work well with Thompson.

Artell did sent Hunt out on loan with the remit of learning how to stamp his authority on games.  Again, difficult to tell on highlights, but it does look like he's still hiding a little bit from the play.  I don't know if he's given the freedom to influence play at York but I'd imagine Artell wants to see him demanding the ball in dangerous positions and looking to create at every opportunity.  

Also, there's no flipping way we can drop to those depths again.  That standard is awful.  I was struggling to stay engaged for less than 10 minutes of that.  Not sure I can do a full season (again).

Quoted from diehardmariner

Looking at that York highlights clip, accepting that it's very difficult to make a serious assessment on it, looks like York have paired Hunt in midfield with a bit of a terrier type who hustles and wins back possession, freeing Hunt up to be more creative.  On paper he might work well with Thompson.

Artell did sent Hunt out on loan with the remit of learning how to stamp his authority on games.  Again, difficult to tell on highlights, but it does look like he's still hiding a little bit from the play.  I don't know if he's given the freedom to influence play at York but I'd imagine Artell wants to see him demanding the ball in dangerous positions and looking to create at every opportunity.  

I think he'll be hoping he learns to NOT be demanding it/losing it in dangerous positions, but to go and be creative in places it hurts the opposition.

Dangerous from an attacking perspective, not in front of our own goalkeeper.

Alex Hunt got MOM yesterday for York, not sure if BBC have got it wrong but they showed the formation with Hunt player as a centre back and Danny Amos in midfield

York fans on twitter seem to want him signed, not sure we’ve missed him but will be interesting to see how this one plays out at the end of the season

I would still like to keep him and see how he goes in front of Thompson.

I wouldn’t be against that, we know there’s a player in there and maybe with the right players around him - like Thompson - it could bring a more consistent, high performing player

Quoted from neverapen

Alex Hunt got MOM yesterday for York, not sure if BBC have got it wrong but they showed the formation with Hunt player as a centre back and Danny Amos in midfield

York fans on twitter seem to want him signed, not sure we’ve missed him but will be interesting to see how this one plays out at the end of the season

The BBC just randomly guess the formations in the NL - they regularly had Luke Waterfall playing up front for us! The BBC’s coverage of non league is abysmal.

A couple of lads I work with support York and cannot believe he’s playing at that level, there’s obviously a player in there and we’d be mad not to give him a pre season here to prove it.

To be fair to Hunt he’s never been given a good run of games since being back here to show us what he’s made of

Providing we stay up, I suspect Artell will give Hunt a chance to prove himself during pre-season. Due to the players we have available this season, we've ended up with a more pragmatic and direct approach and Hunt just wasn't suited to that. I don't think this will continue next season.

Hunt has a lot to do to convince me, but I expect I'll see him given another chance yet.

At least if he doesn't cut it here, he's put in some very good performances at York and it'll give the lad confidence that he can revive his career at the level below. They are also loaded so we'd probably get a nice fee for him.

York fans love him - begging him to sign would be interesting to see if they  bid anything reasonable whether we let him go , or will Artell be true to his word and give him another chance ?

£100k and he’s yours York.

York won 2-0 today.  Now on 53 points but still not safe!!.  Boreham Wood are 4th to bottom and won 3-0 away in the late game.

Just as well York beat Chesterfield.

Hunt played for the full game.  And again the only York player booked.  No match report on him.

Crookes started after a long injury.  Amos and the Shop also started.  Paddy McLaughlin on as a sub.

A double win for Grimsby then!

We'd be daft to sell him to them, he's a good player and has a role to play in our midfield next season.

Quoted from Chrisblor

We'd be daft to sell him to them, he's a good player and has a role to play in our midfield next season.

Can’t see it myself after being mediocre at best. He’s probably found his level in the National League.

Quoted from davmariner

Can’t see it myself after being mediocre at best. He’s probably found his level in the National League.

He was excellent at MK and Oxford and then at home to Crewe. Arguably the best player across Artell’s first three games so I don’t know how you work that out. Indeed, I was talking to a Town player in the last week who described Hunt as technically fantastic. There’s clearly something else wrong but I don’t think he should be described as mediocre.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

He was excellent at MK and Oxford and then at home to Crewe. Arguably the best player across Artell’s first three games so I don’t know how you work that out. Indeed, I was talking to a Town player in the last week who described Hunt as technically fantastic. There’s clearly something else wrong but I don’t think he should be described as mediocre.

A lot will probably depend on who is in his ear. Agent ? Parent ? Friend ?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

He was excellent at MK and Oxford and then at home to Crewe. Arguably the best player across Artell’s first three games so I don’t know how you work that out. Indeed, I was talking to a Town player in the last week who described Hunt as technically fantastic. There’s clearly something else wrong but I don’t think he should be described as mediocre.

Don’t think there’s anything “wrong” as such he just hasn’t fulfilled his potential yet, whether he does or not remains to be seen.

It’s great he’s doing so well, but it’s three levels below where we aspire to be and he’s simply not good enough if we do actually want to get there. Shame and all that but hey.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Don’t think there’s anything “wrong” as such he just hasn’t fulfilled his potential yet, whether he does or not remains to be seen.

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It's good he's doing well in the conference, and for the second time. The question is if he can up his level so he can do that consistently at L2 level.

I think having conference level players is part of the reason we're in the mess we're in. Though we have seen that players can turn it around, and I hope he does. He's got a lot of work ahead of us, and if he succeeds, we all win.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Sent a PM

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Get a room , you two  ;D ;D

Quoted from MuddyWaters

He was excellent at MK and Oxford and then at home to Crewe. Arguably the best player across Artell’s first three games so I don’t know how you work that out. Indeed, I was talking to a Town player in the last week who described Hunt as technically fantastic. There’s clearly something else wrong but I don’t think he should be described as mediocre.

Ok, let’s say I give you those three matches. What about the tens and tens of other poor ones? A one good game every 15 matches is not enough to be an EFL player.

He’s a player with good technique who can pick a pass. The problem is that when he's pressed and under pressure in matches he doesn’t cut the mustard.

There is a term for a player that looks the part in training but can’t replicate it in matches - however, I can’t for the life of me remember what it’s called.

He reminds me a lot of James Berrett who was another one that supposedly performed well in training. I don’t see any compelling reason to give him another go. We had the same discussion ahead of this season and it’s the same old story.

Quoted from davmariner

Ok, let’s say I give you those three matches. What about the tens and tens of other poor ones? A one good game every 15 matches is not enough to be an EFL player.

He’s a player with good technique who can pick a pass. The problem is that when he's pressed and under pressure in matches he doesn’t cut the mustard.

There is a term for a player that looks the part in training but can’t replicate it in matches - however, I can’t for the life of me remember what it’s called.

He reminds me a lot of James Berrett who was another one that supposedly performed well in training. I don’t see any compelling reason to give him another go. We had the same discussion ahead of this season and it’s the same old story.

He’s got far more ability than Berrett for a start.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

He’s got far more ability than Berrett for a start.

Carlisle fans would argue Berrett was fantastic for them at League 1 level. The problem was that he was really poor for us and that despite us persevering he was just awful.

The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing and hoping for different results. We’ve not seen anything like a consistent spell of playing well from Hunt other than the first couple of months of his loan spell when we were in the National League.

I’m yet to hear a compelling argument as to why it would be any different if we were to try him again. Much better to move him on and use his wages/fee to strengthen IMO.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

He’s got far more ability than Berrett for a start.

Me too.

Actually, that's not true, but I'd imagine I'd have been just as effective as he was for us.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

He’s got far more ability than Berrett for a start.

Berrett, had to look him up.
Played 51 games for Town and I can't remember the bloke, was he that bad or is it my age.

Quoted from TAGG

Berrett, had to look him up.
Played 51 games for Town and I can't remember the bloke, was he that bad or is it my age.

Bang average. A shirt filler.

Like playing with 10 men, backwards or sideways with every pass, awful awful player

I don't think Hunt understood his role in the team when Artell arrived.

Those first few games he was probably playing his natural game in the centre of midfield with little instruction and a bit of freedom.

Then, as Artell began imposing his style, Hunt became a bit more of a passenger.

That style, in theory, should've suited Hunt, but following that win at Salford I saw a Town team full of players looking rather bemused by what they should be doing.

Clearly, after the Doncaster defeat, Artell changed things up and made us a bit more robust, which was a style that definitely wouldn't suit a player like Hunt, and so it made sense, I suppose, to let him find game time elsewhere.

If everything works out perfectly, Hunt returns in the summer having gained confidence and hits the ground running in pre-season, effectively feeling like a new signing.

Following today's win at Crewe, which makes it just three defeats in 12, it suggests the players are becoming a little clearer with the system they're expected to play.

If Hunt is still wanted and learns to play in that system, he could yet prove to be a decent asset for us next season.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

He was excellent at MK and Oxford and then at home to Crewe. Arguably the best player across Artell’s first three games so I don’t know how you work that out. Indeed, I was talking to a Town player in the last week who described Hunt as technically fantastic. There’s clearly something else wrong but I don’t think he should be described as mediocre.

I hear that, but then I remember Nathan Jones saying that wayne/jason????? was the best technical player in the Luton squad. Joined us, totally ineffectual and ended up at somewhere like Gateshead. He was so anonymous I can't even remember his name!

ps muddy can I have a pm as well please??

Quoted from forza ivano

I hear that, but then I remember Nathan Jones saying that wayne/jason????? was the best technical player in the Luton squad. Joined us, totally ineffectual and ended up at somewhere like Gateshead. He was so anonymous I can't even remember his name!

ps muddy can I have a pm as well please??

Yup!

Hunt was deployed to York to get match sharpness and come back, hopefully a better player and stake a claim for a shirt. He's done that. This board is awfully cynical, some posters seemed to be happy when his early games were not great and he was subbed, a lot of 'tood you so' claims. Now he's getting glowing reviews it's 'right, sell him then'.

He's knuckled down, earnt praise and shown how he can be the player that Artell thinks he is.
The Town team he featured in was based around a slow, switched off midfield. He'd have had a field day v Crewe.
Unfair to demand consistency from Hunt when the whole team should be delivering just that,  as they did yesterday against Crewe.

Quoted from toontown

Like playing with 10 men, backwards or sideways with every pass, awful awful player

Just to be clear, I was talking about James Berrett, not Hunt!

Quoted from TAGG

Berrett, had to look him up.
Played 51 games for Town and I can't remember the bloke, was he that bad or is it my age.

Both

Quoted from HatTrickHero

Hunt was deployed to York to get match sharpness and come back, hopefully a better player and stake a claim for a shirt. He's done that. This board is awfully cynical, some posters seemed to be happy when his early games were not great and he was subbed, a lot of 'tood you so' claims. Now he's getting glowing reviews it's 'right, sell him then'.

He's knuckled down, earnt praise and shown how he can be the player that Artell thinks he is.
The Town team he featured in was based around a slow, switched off midfield. He'd have had a field day v Crewe.
Unfair to demand consistency from Hunt when the whole team should be delivering just that,  as they did yesterday against Crewe.

To be fair, he did have a field day against Crewe at home. Best we’ve played at home all season.

Interestingly, as York’s season finishes next Saturday, he will be available for our last game!

Hunt is definitely returning to the club it has been stated by Artell and by various individuals at the club several times.

A player as talented as hunt deserves another crack at the whip.

Seem to be quite a few players out at York. Does the club have a deal with York/close ties with them ?

Quoted from StacyColdicotts_hairline

Hunt is definitely returning to the club it has been stated by Artell and by various individuals at the club several times.

A player as talented as hunt deserves another crack at the whip.

Seem to be quite a few players out at York. Does the club have a deal with York/close ties with them ?

York fan here again. To answer your question we've used about 60 players including god knows how many loanees so its just a coincidence.

Funny that Berrett has been mentioned. We had him too. Hunt is better.

Assuming we stay up  I think we will likely put in a bid for Hunt. He is one of only a couple of bright lights in an awful season.

It wouldn't shock me to see Hunt come back and be excellent alongside Thompson. Let's not forget he was in a midfield alongside Conteh who was in his first season of league football. Conteh is not Curtis, on the ball Conteh is excellent. Off the ball it's night and day between the two, Curtis offers us a lot more protection and helps his midfielders out massively. A proper old school midfield general that we've been craving really since Dis left.

Quoted from Wizwag

York fan here again. To answer your question we've used about 60 players including god knows how many loanees so its just a coincidence.

Funny that Berrett has been mentioned. We had him too. Hunt is better.

Assuming we stay up  I think we will likely put in a bid for Hunt. He is one of only a couple of bright lights in an awful season.

How is hunt doing now that he has settled. What is the general concensus ?

I suppose its possible if it doesn't work out here next season he could end up back af York if he enjoys it there.

I would suspect like others that Amos will likely be a permanent signing for you

Quoted from StacyColdicotts_hairline

How is hunt doing now that he has settled. What is the general concensus ?

I suppose its possible if it doesn't work out here next season he could end up back af York if he enjoys it there.

I would suspect like others that Amos will likely be a permanent signing for you

Everyone likes him. First couple of games were iffy but since then he's been great. I wasnt sure about Amos but given how hard it is to find LB's Id keep him.

I like Hunt for no logical reason.  He has good technical skills, demonstrated sometimes.  He can take a mean freekick.

We should persevere with him.

Pedigree?:  Sheff Wed MOM when coming on as a young sub v Man City FA Cup 5th round.  

A capacity crowd did not faze him.

York stayed up today by the skin of their teeth as Boreham Wood could only draw at home to Ebbsfleet. Hunt completes his loan with 9 appearances.