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Posted by: BraStrap, February 18, 2024, 3:20pm
Does it actually do anything?

I looked on Wikipedia and this is what it says:

In British sports, a supporters' trust is a formal, democratic and not-for-profit organisation of fans who attempt to strengthen the influence of supporters over the running of the club they support.

Ours seems to run bars, raise funds and have lofty goals.
Posted by: Mikey_345, February 18, 2024, 3:21pm; Reply: 1
Quoted from BraStrap
Does it actually do anything?

I looked on Wikipedia and this is what it says:

In British sports, a supporters' trust is a formal, democratic and not-for-profit organisation of fans who attempt to strengthen the influence of supporters over the running of the club they support.

Ours seems to run bars, raise funds and have lofty goals.


And has two representatives in the club board giving a voice to fans with the day to day running of the club…. So, yeah it does.
Posted by: ginnywings, February 18, 2024, 3:22pm; Reply: 2
Their turn in the stocks is it?

They are all volunteer Town fans doing mostly good things in their own time. What more do you want?
Posted by: arryarryarry, February 18, 2024, 3:23pm; Reply: 3
Quoted from Mikey_345


And has two representatives in the club board giving a voice to fans with the day to day running of the club…. So, yeah it does.


Did they have a say in the sacking of Hurst and the appointing of Artell?

And will they have a say in whether we sack Artell or not.
Posted by: Mikey_345, February 18, 2024, 3:25pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from arryarryarry


Did they have a say in the sacking of Hurst and the appointing of Artell?


Yeah, your point being?
Posted by: BraStrap, February 18, 2024, 3:26pm; Reply: 5
So they have nothing at all to say about the Colchester postponement or our management predicament?
Posted by: arryarryarry, February 18, 2024, 3:27pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from Mikey_345


Yeah, your point being?


Then they are as much to blame as the owners for the pile of excrement we are standing in.
Posted by: Bristol Mariner, February 18, 2024, 3:39pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from BraStrap
Does it actually do anything?

I looked on Wikipedia and this is what it says:

In British sports, a supporters' trust is a formal, democratic and not-for-profit organisation of fans who attempt to strengthen the influence of supporters over the running of the club they support.

Ours seems to run bars, raise funds and have lofty goals.


sharp object
Posted by: HertsGTFC, February 18, 2024, 3:39pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from BraStrap
So they have nothing at all to say about the Colchester postponement or our management predicament?


Don’t you have anything better to do with your Sunday?
Posted by: Mikey_345, February 18, 2024, 3:42pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from arryarryarry


Then they are as much to blame as the owners for the pile of excrement we are standing in.


This assumes it was an obviously poor appointment. It wasn’t at the time and from my recollection a good majority of fans were happy with it.

It’s turned out to be, for whatever reason. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, not available to people having to make decisions like it is people commenting on them months later.
Posted by: headingly_mariner, February 18, 2024, 3:48pm; Reply: 10
Yeah loads of stuff, generally a positive force and have made lots of different changes that benefit fans.
Posted by: davmariner, February 18, 2024, 4:08pm; Reply: 11
I’ve been critical of them under Fenty but it’s not their fault Artell is a charlatan. Nevertheless, I hope that they will be reflecting the views of the fans/their members to the owners.
Posted by: dapperz fun pub, February 18, 2024, 4:27pm; Reply: 12
The trust didn’t employ DA
Posted by: marinerjase, February 18, 2024, 4:44pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from BraStrap
Does it actually do anything?

I looked on Wikipedia and this is what it says:

In British sports, a supporters' trust is a formal, democratic and not-for-profit organisation of fans who attempt to strengthen the influence of supporters over the running of the club they support.

Ours seems to run bars, raise funds and have lofty goals.



Well..I’ve two responses to that…

1. Yes, they do lots. Not all seen. Tremendous amount of work organising things for kids, within community, helping people. Together with lots of activities/involvement of youngsters on match days to get them ‘into’ the club. Furthermore various assistance in fundraising activities, help with/for past players, and the aforementioned by others board input..I could go on..and on..

2. The trust roles are voluntary. Plenty people give up their own time, and family time to help others. For no gain. They do it because they are supporters of the club, care, and want to help.
They deserve nothing but praise..not knocking because certain fans aren’t getting what they want..I’d suggest rather than taking to a keyboard and whinging - if you want to do better, or even help …then get yourself volunteering, contributing and making a difference. Only a few weeks back there was opportunity to put yourself forward. But I guess you didnt…..


Posted by: BraStrap, February 18, 2024, 4:52pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from marinerjase



Well..I’ve two responses to that…

1. Yes, they do lots. Not all seen. Tremendous amount of work organising things for kids, within community, helping people. Together with lots of activities/involvement of youngsters on match days to get them ‘into’ the club. Furthermore various assistance in fundraising activities, help with/for past players, and the aforementioned by others board input..I could go on..and on..

2. The trust roles are voluntary. Plenty people give up their own time, and family time to help others. For no gain. They do it because they are supporters of the club, care, and want to help.
They deserve nothing but praise..not knocking because certain fans aren’t getting what they want..I’d suggest rather than taking to a keyboard and whinging - if you want to do better, or even help …then get yourself volunteering, contributing and making a difference. Only a few weeks back there was opportunity to put yourself forward. But I guess you didnt…..




Thanks. Not obvious the work that goes on.
Posted by: arryarryarry, February 18, 2024, 5:14pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from Mikey_345


This assumes it was an obviously poor appointment. It wasn’t at the time and from my recollection a good majority of fans were happy with it.

It’s turned out to be, for whatever reason. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, not available to people having to make decisions like it is people commenting on them months later.


Did a good majority of fans think it was a good appointment?
Posted by: davmariner, February 18, 2024, 5:16pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from arryarryarry


Did a good majority of fans think it was a good appointment?


Not sure I agree with the view that the majority thought it was a good appointment. There were many (including me) who were very sceptical and as time and games have gone by, that number has only increased.
Posted by: pen penfras, February 18, 2024, 5:19pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from arryarryarry


Did a good majority of fans think it was a good appointment?


I'd say this was the least inspired fan reaction to an appointment that I can recall. It was mostly positive, but there were definitely people, myself included, that thought his record at Crewe was poor and his interviews were incoherent and narcissistic.

Even Slade ii was generally well received despite the cloud he left under.
Posted by: Mikey_345, February 18, 2024, 5:45pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from pen penfras


It was mostly positive


So that’s a yes then..
Posted by: Mikey_345, February 18, 2024, 6:04pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from davmariner


Not sure I agree with the view that the majority thought it was a good appointment. There were many (including me) who were very sceptical and as time and games have gone by, that number has only increased.


I didn’t say universal but to say it was thought to be a bad appointment by the majority is just demonstrably not true.
Posted by: GrimRob, February 18, 2024, 6:09pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from Mikey_345


I didn’t say universal but to say it was thought to be a bad appointment by the majority is just demonstrably not true.


Is there a way of telling what the fan base think? Online discussion is confined to a few hundred people. The silent majority can be assumed to be broadly supportive but it's not a given.
Posted by: jamesgtfc, February 18, 2024, 6:09pm; Reply: 21
I don't think it's fair to pile in on the Trust and they shouldn't be consulting the fans or issuing statements regarding Artell. Kristine and Dave Roberts were part of the board that approved hiring Artell.

Presumably, the board representatives are privy to a lot more information than we are, but I hope if there is a board meeting tomorrow they take the supporter line that it's time for Artell to go.
Posted by: Mikey_345, February 18, 2024, 6:18pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from GrimRob


Is there a way of telling what the fan base think? Online discussion is confined to a few hundred people. The silent majority can be assumed to be broadly supportive but it's not a given.


I think you get a general idea from everything you see and hear. Can’t remember much criticism either online or from people I’ve spoke to about it.

Certainly if it was a big portion of the fan base it would be obvious, you’d have thought?
Posted by: Spurn boy, February 18, 2024, 7:48pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from jamesgtfc
I don't think it's fair to pile in on the Trust and they shouldn't be consulting the fans or issuing statements regarding Artell. Kristine and Dave Roberts were part of the board that approved hiring Artell.

Presumably, the board representatives are privy to a lot more information than we are, but I hope if there is a board meeting tomorrow they take the supporter line that it's time for Artell to go.


I hope there is a board meeting tomorrow as things have become so serious regarding our current situation and league position that the situation needs to be addressed as soon as possible.
Posted by: crusty ole pie, February 18, 2024, 8:38pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from arryarryarry


Did they have a say in the sacking of Hurst and the appointing of Artell?

And will they have a say in whether we sack Artell or not.


Pretty sure JS went on record saying the final decision on the manager would be his, this is not a dig let’s face it since AB2 it’s been mainly poor chooses the likes of lawie George Kerr Alan Buckley only come very occasionally look how long it took Man Utd to find another Matt busby Liverpool to find another shankly dynasty  spurs to find another bill Nicholson it’s simply down to luck
Posted by: dapperz fun pub, February 18, 2024, 8:53pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from crusty ole pie


Pretty sure JS went on record saying the final decision on the manager would be his, this is not a dig let’s face it since AB2 it’s been mainly poor chooses the likes of lawie George Kerr Alan Buckley only come very occasionally look how long it took Man Utd to find another Matt busby Liverpool to find another shankly dynasty  spurs to find another bill Nicholson it’s simply down to luck


Kin ell mate we’re looking for someone who can finish 90thin the FL or slightly better surely someone is out there
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