I know the chances are slim, but did anybody keep a copy of the 2015 playoff final or have a digital copy of the BT Sports footage? I'd like to use more of the highlights on it's anniversary than the goals (the Puddy handball for starters).

For a game relatively recently nobody seems to have it (even tried their forums).

Thanks

Bruce

Don't really want to see that gain. The worst refereeing bottle job of all time.

If you have BT Sport there's various stuff from the match on demand. Just search Grimsby in the app.

I'd rather watch Burton away than that match ..... Relegation had been coming and was deserved but that final was devastating in the way we lost ..

Refs a illegitimate

From what I remember from the highlights they didn't show the Puddy handball, it was as if it didn't happen.

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From what I remember from the highlights they didn't show the Puddy handball, it was as if it didn't happen.

They definitely did. I couldn’t bare to watch it back at the time, obviously, but I’ve 100% seen it somewhere on the internet in recent times. I’ve had a quick scout and I can’t find it, but I can recall the monotone Adam Virgo being somewhat scathing of the decision.

Worst refereeing decision I’ve ever seen in the flesh. Absolutely no doubt.

IIRC the referee actually admitted that he didn't want to give a red card that early as it would spoil the game

Even the ref got promoted to the league when that decision alone should have prevented it from happening.

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They definitely did. I couldn’t bare to watch it back at the time, obviously, but I’ve 100% seen it somewhere on the internet in recent times. I’ve had a quick scout and I can’t find it, but I can recall the monotone Adam Virgo being somewhat scathing of the decision.

Worst refereeing decision I’ve ever seen in the flesh. Absolutely no doubt.

Not as important, well, maybe, but the Brighton hand ball was ludicrous. Especially given the fact that they had VAR.

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Not as important, well, maybe, but the Brighton hand ball was ludicrous. Especially given the fact that they had VAR.

It was, I agree, but I’ve since reconciled with that having reached the opinion that they’d have still beaten us with 10 men, such was the degree of superiority.

When Puddy deliberately stopped the ball with his arm, comfortably outside the box, I thought “we’ve won this”. We were the better team and already 1-0 up - that moment felt like game, set and match.

And then the card was yellow. That came as a huge shock, given Joyce had just completely ignored the fundamental parameters of a very basic rule. Did he handle it? Yes. Was it outside the box? By some distance. Was it intentional? Blatantly. There was no scope whatsoever for the decision to be anything other than red.

It was a psychological hammer blow, and even though the pain is tempered by the fact we went up the following year, there’s still a sense of what might have been. I don’t think I’m alone in my opinion that the side that lost that day was better all round than the one which beat Forest Green 12 months on.

I felt sick for days after that game, and it wasn’t just from the heat stroke I got whilst stood in the stands.

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It was, I agree, but I’ve since reconciled with that having reached the opinion that they’d have still beaten us with 10 men, such was the degree of superiority.

When Puddy deliberately stopped the ball with his arm, comfortably outside the box, I thought “we’ve won this”. We were the better team and already 1-0 up - that moment felt like game, set and match.

And then the card was yellow. That came as a huge shock, given Joyce had just completely ignored the fundamental parameters of a very basic rule. Did he handle it? Yes. Was it outside the box? By some distance. Was it intentional? Blatantly. There was no scope whatsoever for the decision to be anything other than red.

It was a psychological hammer blow, and even though the pain is tempered by the fact we went up the following year, there’s still a sense of what might have been. I don’t think I’m alone in my opinion that the side that lost that day was better all round than the one which beat Forest Green 12 months on.

I felt sick for days after that game, and it wasn’t just from the heat stroke I got whilst stood in the stands.

Absolutely this. I've always felt the decision was a punishment for us the decision was so incompetent and unfair it affected the team for the rest of the game. We lost our rhythm and superiority, we should have probably dealt with it better but why should we have to when we did absolutely nothing wrong. I'm still dumbfounded Joyce has been allowed to referee our games since.

Am totally with you poojah, and I think it sort of galvanised the support from operation promotion.

I agree that the team/squad was Better but for those that remained, I think it made them all the more determined.

It was a total travesty of justice that the ref was even allowed to officiate again and what made it worse was the fact that the FA made the decision to promote him. But, then again anything below the championship, it’s a free for all because those in charge don’t care enough.

Even before the hand ball incident (around 7 mins I think) Matt Taylor went in high, late and with studs showing on James McKeown after he’d taken the ball in his hands. And in the scuffle that ensued he swung a punch towards Shaun Pearson. Taylor didn’t even get booked. There have been incidents since in English football where the referee booked a player twice in such circumstances and sent them off- one for the foul and one for something that happened in the aftermath.

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Even before the hand ball incident (around 7 mins I think) Matt Taylor went in high, late and with studs showing on James McKeown after he’d taken the ball in his hands. And in the scuffle that ensued he swung a punch towards Shaun Pearson. Taylor didn’t even get booked. There have been incidents since in English football where the referee booked a player twice in such circumstances and sent them off- one for the foul and one for something that happened in the aftermath.

he then dived and was booked whilst trying to get mckeown sent off, and then dived again in extra time, ref just ignored the 2nd one, he was diabolical that day

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Thanks Les.

Was hoping for the BT comms but this is all anyone seems to have seen. Mostly to share the injustice each year but might end up getting this one from somewhere. As somebody said Virgo was pretty scathing about it.

Appreciate the replies

Bruce

Quoted from Fenners

Thanks Les.

Was hoping for the BT comms but this is all anyone seems to have seen. Mostly to share the injustice each year but might end up getting this one from somewhere. As somebody said Virgo was pretty scathing about it.

Appreciate the replies

Bruce

As an aside, absolutely fantastic work you do with the Twitter account mate. Some outstanding footage you’ve had on there, especially some of the really old stuff. It’s become part of my morning routine.

Thanks for doing it!

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As an aside, absolutely fantastic work you do with the Twitter account mate. Some outstanding footage you’ve had on there, especially some of the really old stuff. It’s become part of my morning routine.

Thanks for doing it!

And the podcast too

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

And the podcast too

The podcast where you had your "backing group" there with you made me laugh Bruce....  I bet that's what Kid Creole felt like with his Coconuts in tow   ;)

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It was, I agree, but I’ve since reconciled with that having reached the opinion that they’d have still beaten us with 10 men, such was the degree of superiority.

When Puddy deliberately stopped the ball with his arm, comfortably outside the box, I thought “we’ve won this”. We were the better team and already 1-0 up - that moment felt like game, set and match.

And then the card was yellow. That came as a huge shock, given Joyce had just completely ignored the fundamental parameters of a very basic rule. Did he handle it? Yes. Was it outside the box? By some distance. Was it intentional? Blatantly. There was no scope whatsoever for the decision to be anything other than red.

It was a psychological hammer blow, and even though the pain is tempered by the fact we went up the following year, there’s still a sense of what might have been. I don’t think I’m alone in my opinion that the side that lost that day was better all round than the one which beat Forest Green 12 months on.

I felt sick for days after that game, and it wasn’t just from the heat stroke I got whilst stood in the stands.

Poojah - I don’t remember the team being better that year than next. Which players are you thinking specifically? Surely Amond and Bogle compared to LJL closes that argument alone?