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A serious question...

if Slade gets the push (and he hope he does) who realistically should/can we get to replace him?

I’ll put my cards on the table, we should’ve never got rid of Bignot in my opinion, I said it the day he got the sack and like most people I thought Slade was a safe pair of hands if a little uninspiring how wrong was I on that one.

So us fans don’t want an up and coming manager with little or no League experience because he’s not allowed any time to develop and now we don’t want an “old school” manager because they’re too stuck in their ways, so who is it going to be???

Bignot caused alot of uproar behind the scenes and tried running us as a part time club on top of everything else, before I knew what I know now I to believed in his approach and the way he seemed to handle things in the media etc.

Nigel Adkins hasnt had a job for a while now, maybe a more realistic target this time round.

Quoted from mariner91

Nigel Adkins hasnt had a job for a while now, maybe a more realistic target this time round.

Do you think John Fenty would pay for a winner?

Dean Keates or Gary Waddock.

Brian Laws? or Disley. dis would be perfect, still well in toch with the game and must have lots of contacts as does Ben Davies who will most likely be looking for an opurtunity after he finishes playing and looks set to stay in the area due to his misses being from here.

Brian Laws? or Disley. dis would be perfect, still well in touch with the game and must have lots of contacts as does Ben Davies who will most likely be looking for an opportunity after he finishes playing and looks set to stay in the area due to his misses being from here.

All this thread says is that it’s a pretty bleak list doesn’t it?

Ok Neil Warnock then ;D

Quoted from monkeyboy

Brian Laws? or Disley. dis would be perfect, still well in toch with the game and must have lots of contacts as does Ben Davies who will most likely be looking for an opurtunity after he finishes playing and looks set to stay in the area due to his misses being from here.

FFS the future of GTFC should not rest on a players mrs being from the area FFS are you for fooking real ??

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

FFS the future of GTFC should not rest on a players mrs being from the area FFS are you for fooking real ??

But we have to realistic on who we can get in, im sure the job isnt the best money around and lets face it the area is far from nice lol.

Why not give someone young like Davies a chance? a certain manager at Bournmouth seems to be doing alright from a similar position

Not against giving a chance to a player whose had a good career but just cos his Mrs is from gy sounds like desperation. For what’s its worth I’ve got no doubt he’d do better than the current set up . But that’s not hard .

In our current position, we cannot take a risk on anyone who might make things worse. Yes, that could be possible.

Quoted from monkeyboy

But we have to realistic on who we can get in, im sure the job isnt the best money around and lets face it the area is far from nice lol.

Why not give someone young like Davies a chance? a certain manager at Bournmouth seems to be doing alright from a similar position

No offence to the guy but Neil Woods springs to mind.

Slade will go, and soon as we're calling for the owners head. The owner will sacrifice his bald headed and rather shite lamb.

Me, I'd go for up and coming, someone who know the football league and the players below it. I'd target Dean Keates at Wrexham who is young, had a good career in the football league nether regions, has a lot of contacts and knowledge in the National league, where we should look to recruit. And guess what, he is Shaun Pearson's manager, he signed Shaun who should have become a Town legend, let's see if we can somehow agree to bring him back to BP in January. Though both lads would be mental to get involved with John Fenty.

Anybody would be better that this facking clown !

I know this sounds slightly bizarre but wouldn't it be better if the non-chairman went first to prevent him from making another bad appointment?

If he does go which I think he won’t till after Xmas then fenty is gonna have to splash some cash and for once bring in the right appointment !!! Adkins for me

Why won't he go until after Christmas? Is it because Slade is at Fenty's for Turkey

He is not going anywhere soon-the guy is trying his best. Reportedly ordered " The Buffoon in the cap" and "The way Forward" from Amazon. Obviously not received yet-got held up in Brazil. Should have ordered " How to Fk Off" by Tony Blair.

Been very impressed with Woking manager Anthony Limbrick. Great football and results.

I wouldn't mind if we looked outside of the league and even the national league to get a new manager, I mean look how well Paul Hurst has progressed. What about someone like Gavin Rose at Dulwich.

The fact that his contract length has not been made public is a particularly curious one. Could it be that it's a really long one? That we mean we are not getting rid.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

The fact that his contract length has not been made public is a particularly curious one. Could it be that it's a really long one? That we mean we are not getting rid.

Rumoured to be 3 or even 4 years. Took the job on the basis it was his last job with the target of stabilising rather than instant results.

No issue at all with getting rid of Bignot but for the owner to go out on a limb to chase his pal and then present the done deal to the board tells me everything you need to know about the way the club is run.

Thinking of going into training to go 10 rounds ;D

I don't think sacking Slade will even be on the radar at BP Towers. I think he has been coaxed to join us on a good contract with an eye to building something over the next few seasons, hopefully building toward the new stadium. That's the plan as i see it and in some ways i think that is a good plan.

Sadly, the fans are not buying into it because of the dire present football and to some extent, the history of the manager, not just at our club, but also at his recent clubs. Slade is right in what he says about patience and fans lack of it, but we have been waiting a long time to see some progress and all i see is a club who are exactly where we were 13 years ago with the same manager, playing the same negative football, in the same league. It's hard to swallow for most.

I honestly think that relegation talk is a bit premature at the moment and with just a little luck, we would be much higher up the league than we currently are. I have seen no other sides that look head and shoulders above us. However, not winning can get to become a habit and you can suddenly find yourself getting cut off, so that is a worry to fans. We need to start scoring and finding that winning formula pronto.

I would be happy to see Slade gone, didn't want him back in the first place, but i don't think he will be going anywhere for the foreseeable myself, so it's suck it up or stop supporting in my opinion.

Quoted from ginnywings

I don't think sacking Slade will even be on the radar at BP Towers. I think he has been coaxed to join us on a good contract with an eye to building something over the next few seasons, hopefully building toward the new stadium. That's the plan as i see it and in some ways i think that is a good plan.

Sadly, the fans are not buying into it because of the dire present football and to some extent, the history of the manager, not just at our club, but also at his recent clubs. Slade is right in what he says about patience and fans lack of it, but we have been waiting a long time to see some progress and all i see is a club who are exactly where we were 13 years ago with the same manager, playing the same negative football, in the same league. It's hard to swallow for most.

I honestly think that relegation talk is a bit premature at the moment and with just a little luck, we would be much higher up the league than we currently are. I have seen no other sides that look head and shoulders above us. However, not winning can get to become a habit and you can suddenly find yourself getting cut off, so that is a worry to fans. We need to start scoring and finding that winning formula pronto.

I would be happy to see Slade gone, didn't want him back in the first place, but i don't think he will be going anywhere for the foreseeable myself, so it's suck it up or stop supporting in my opinion.

Well put, agree with that

Jay Saunders, Maidstone Manager

4 promotions in 6 season with them, we need a manager on the way up not one that’s going down like the one we’ve got

Not essential but Ideally I would prefer someone who has experience of managing a full time set of players and has worked in the last 12 months, not bothered if they are currently league or non league status. The reality is we will need to look from the league below if it's someone currently working.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Not essential but Ideally I would prefer someone who has experience of managing a full time set of players and has worked in the last 12 months, not bothered if they are currently league or non league status. The reality is we will need to look from the league below if it's someone currently working.

Don’t think the Cowley brothers had managed full time before lincoln , had they ? We need to be brave like lincoln and go for a up and coming young hungry coach whose had reasonable success at a lower level. Bignot was not given long enough imo

I have no faith in Fenty to appoint a manager who can work within the budget constraints we seem to have, I'm not talking about team budget I'm talking about personal contracts, I don't think we are competitive enough. I know agents try a milk the clubs for what they can get and that clubs have to say no at some point, I just get the feeling we say here is the terms take it or leave it.

The proof will be in what we offered members of the team that got us promoted we wanted to keep. Allegedly from what I was told we only offered extra £15 - £20 a week, no wonder Arnold joined Lincoln.

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Don’t think the Cowley brothers had managed full time before lincoln , had they ? We need to be brave like lincoln and go for a up and coming young hungry coach whose had reasonable success at a lower level. Bignot was not given long enough imo

No they hadn't but it was less of a risk for Lincoln as Braintree where better than them when Danny Cowley left. I don't think Lincoln where being particularly brave in taking a manager from a tin pot club who he nearly got promoted and finished above them.

Disagree about Bignot as he was stupid enough not to realise he did not have to change the fabric of everything at the club just build upon the last couple of seasons.

Lincoln attracted Danny Cowley because he saw the potential they could offer as they had positive incoming investment, what could we currently offer? The opportunity to work in the league 2 equivalent of North Korea?

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Don’t think the Cowley brothers had managed full time before lincoln , had they ? We need to be brave like lincoln and go for a up and coming young hungry coach whose had reasonable success at a lower level. Bignot was not given long enough imo

Agree about Bignot, his methods seemed off but he should have had a preseason and we should be now deciding whether he is working out for us or not. Something happened behind the scenes, I just don't know what.

Maybe next time the club should filter down to 3 candidates then give the fans the final choice via the trust or something similar. Or have a say at least

Slade must have a long contract, or why not say what it is?

I’m afraid we’re stuck with what we have, as I can’t see us paying him up if that’s going to cost £200 - £300k maybe?

It’s alright saying Slade has been given the job ofstabilising the team and it’s alright for him to tell us all to be patient. But him and Fenty told the supporters that promotion was the goal of this season. Promotion, not stability, not mid table mediocrity, not a battle for survival. We look so far from being a promotion winning side, Donald trump has more chance of becoming the pope!

Perhaps he believes he is building for the future, but not with the tosh he has bought in. We haven’t got anyone at present who looks capable of scoring a goal! I could tolerate the shite on offer if promotion looked realistic. But let’s be honest it’s not and never will be with the bald one in charge and Fenty at the helm. It’s like being in a bloody nightmare, but this time it’s real😩

Quoted from Cloudy

Rumoured to be 3 or even 4 years. Took the job on the basis it was his last job with the target of stabilising rather than instant results.

No issue at all with getting rid of Bignot but for the owner to go out on a limb to chase his pal and then present the done deal to the board tells me everything you need to know about the way the club is run.

Thinking of going into training to go 10 rounds ;D

I've heard it's six months rolling ( just like MB )

Quoted from rancido

I've heard it's six months rolling ( just like MB )

And PH.........Maybe there in lies the problem.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

The fact that his contract length has not been made public is a particularly curious one. Could it be that it's a really long one? That we mean we are not getting rid.

Full contracts aren't paid up anyway. A 12 month pay clause is generally part of contracts.

Quoted from 75

Full contracts aren't paid up anyway. A 12 month pay clause is generally part of contracts.

Many L2 managers don't even have one, especially ones that are not working when recruited.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

And PH.........Maybe there in lies the problem.

Why? Do well, succeed, achieve your targets and then negotiate for a better contract.

Quoted from rancido

I've heard it's six months rolling ( just like MB )

So why not say so? Fenty told us all the length of Hurst's and then Bignot's deal but insisted Slade's is a private matter!

Doesn't make sense.

Sack Slade? Even if we do, the real problem remains, the club has no heart, no sense of community or relationship with the fans. It is stale from top downwards and if things are to improve it must come from the top.

Not holding my breath ( although some may want to see me try! )

Quoted from rancido

Why? Do well, succeed, achieve your targets and then negotiate for a better contract.

Or......

Half decent manger with a half decent record of success gets spoken to about the GTFC job but does not want to commit to that lack of security?

Or ......

Does ok but not what the board expects and gets binned

Or.........

Manager is interested but can't bring any of his current coaching team with them as they want to work for him but don't know how long he will be there.

I agree Rancido these deals can work both ways but the 6 month rolling in this case feels like it's designed to protect the club rather than attract top talent.

Quoted from lee65

Slade must have a long contract, or why not say what it is?

I’m afraid we’re stuck with what we have, as I can’t see us paying him up if that’s going to cost £200 - £300k maybe?

How many more times do you all want telling--4Years contract with no escape clause-£138K-he's going nowhere !

138k over four years is 32.5 k a year- would assume he d get more than that?

If he really has got a four-year contract then it is completely in his interest to get sacked! He's certainly doing everything he possibly can to ensure it happens (sign a load of second rate players and play in a way that ensures the crowd get frustrated and on his back). After he leaves he'll probably get another offer within weeks and be off again.

Quoted from GrimRob

After he leaves he'll probably get another offer within weeks and be off again.

You say that, but none of the last 5 managers we've sacked have worked (as a first team manager) again.

Quoted from Abdul19

You say that, but none of the last 5 managers we've sacked have worked (as a first team manager) again.

Bignot is manager at Chester...

Quoted from mariner91

Bignot is manager at Chester...

Yeah, I meant apart from Bignot. Obviously ;)

Paul Doswell, Sutton manager?

Contracts are rarely paid up in full hut if he is on a 4 year one that is a lot of money.

BUT

By all accounts £200,000 went to Fenty from the Bogle deal,

That should cover it.

Quoted from Skrill

Paul Doswell, Sutton manager?

Apart from the fact he actually owns a lot of equity Sutton as well as private business interests, so you'll not tempt him away to GTFC. He's done a good job there though.

BTW if anyone believes a word Golfer says re the salary topic they are as crackers as he is.

Quoted from golfer

How many more times do you all want telling--4Years contract with no escape clause-£138K-he's going nowhere !

Apologies, not actually seen it stated anywhere previously, and do you mean £138k per year? (which seems high), or over four years? (Which seems very low?, unless that is just some kind of basic retainer)

Billy Heath has a good record of getting Clubs promoted

It’s not a case of who would be the best person for the job in a footballing sense. Otherwise let’s face it Slade would not have got a look in. No, Fenty will be looking for an individual that won’t challenge him, belittle him, expose him. He will want someone who will be compliant, a yes man and whose ego won’t compete with his. So finding a manager with the potential for success, will be a challenge, whilst Fenty still holds the reins.

Quoted from heppy88

It’s not a case of who would be the best person for the job in a footballing sense. Otherwise let’s face it Slade would not have got a look in. No, Fenty will be looking for an individual that won’t challenge him, belittle him, expose him. He will want someone who will be compliant, a yes man and whose ego won’t compete with his. So finding a manager with the potential for success, will be a challenge, whilst Fenty still holds the reins.

It's clear that Fenty needs to appoint a manager he can control. The two that he couldn't both ended in hasty dismissals (Bignot & Newell) - both expressed opinions that the club needed to change, both soon departed.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

It's clear that Fenty needs to appoint a manager he can control. The two that he couldn't both ended in hasty dismissals (Bignot & Newell) - both expressed opinions that the club needed to change, both soon departed.

Newell had more than enough time to fcuk things up, Bignot did not need that much time as his "not enough technical ability in the squad" comment made in week 1 meant the players disengaged very early in his tenure.

Quoted from lee65

Apologies, not actually seen it stated anywhere previously, and do you mean £138k per year? (which seems high), or over four years? (Which seems very low?, unless that is just some kind of basic retainer)

£138K per year for 4years P.S. Herts-you will be receiving a formal letter in due course outlining the action I intend to take against you- you know how good I am although your soliciting skills with the Riby Square click are very well known ;D ;D

Quoted from golfer

£138K per year for 4years P.S. Herts-you will be receiving a formal letter in due course outlining the action I intend to take against you- you know how good I am although your soliciting skills with the Riby Square click are very well known ;D ;D

Bring it on ;)

Golfer, you bring a refreshing daftness to this board my friend, please don't stop :)

Thank you Golfer.

If you are correct about the £138k per year then certainly no chance of a swift exit for Russ

It can't be £138k per year, it just can't. That's madness at this level.

The Club needs to change they way it does everything, I'm not just talking about appointing a new manager, I mean everything. PR, recruitment, new stadium, advertisement, mind set, boardroom everything. The club feels old, left behind when Bignot came in it felt like changes were coming in all areas drawing the club out of its shell, but since he's gone, we've retreeted back inside our shell, put on the comfy slippers, turned the heating on and sitting in our favourite seat watching the same comedy reruns we've all watched a million times.

I've said this before on other threads and I still stand by it.
As for manager, being on the manager merry go round will get us relelgated agin or just leave us stagnating even more in League 2. Maybe nows the time to try something new, recruit someone like Robbie Stockdale (no this isn't a bring back a former player suggestion his name comes to mind because of thje example he can set for my arguement), well thought of Youth coach who has on multiple occasions taken control of Sunderlands senior team when they've sacked a manger and even did a good job with our first team after Woods was sacked going 2, 1 and 1 with his results. Of course it would be any coach/assistant manager who is well thought of at their club.

The other way to go is to look abroad somewhere like Germany and bring in a coach/assistant manager who has plied his trade in a good, well structured league set up, someone who will make changes to how we play, how we train etc.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

The Club needs to change they way it does everything, I'm not just talking about appointing a new manager, I mean everything. PR, recruitment, new stadium, advertisement, mind set, boardroom everything. The club feels old, left behind when Bignot came in it felt like changes were coming in all areas drawing the club out of its shell, but since he's gone, we've retreeted back inside our shell, put on the comfy slippers, turned the heating on and sitting in our favourite seat watching the same comedy reruns we've all watched a million times.

I've said this before on other threads and I still stand by it.
As for manager, being on the manager merry go round will get us relelgated agin or just leave us stagnating even more in League 2. Maybe nows the time to try something new, recruit someone like Robbie Stockdale (no this isn't a bring back a former player suggestion his name comes to mind because of thje example he can set for my arguement), well thought of Youth coach who has on multiple occasions taken control of Sunderlands senior team when they've sacked a manger and even did a good job with our first team after Woods was sacked going 2, 1 and 1 with his results. Of course it would be any coach/assistant manager who is well thought of at their club.

The other way to go is to look abroad somewhere like Germany and bring in a coach/assistant manager who has plied his trade in a good, well structured league set up, someone who will make changes to how we play, how we train etc.

Dream on, why the fcuk would a manager who has done well abroad come to us?

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

The Club needs to change they way it does everything, I'm not just talking about appointing a new manager, I mean everything. PR, recruitment, new stadium, advertisement, mind set, boardroom everything. The club feels old, left behind when Bignot came in it felt like changes were coming in all areas drawing the club out of its shell, but since he's gone, we've retreeted back inside our shell, put on the comfy slippers, turned the heating on and sitting in our favourite seat watching the same comedy reruns we've all watched a million times.

I think that is absolutely spot on. Sadly, however, nothing will change in that respect until and unless parties come forward and give Mr Fenty what he wants to go. If that hasn't been clear before now, then the anti-public relations of the last week or so should have opened people's eyes to the reality.

Turning to the managerial question, I never wanted Russell Slade back in the first place and, even if he has been handicapped by tight budgets and things like that, I don't think anybody can realistically argue that he is getting the best out of the squad he has. If there is to be a change of manager in the near future, then I would prefer us to go for an up and coming manager rather than one who has been on the league merry-go-round. But, if Slade does go, I'm sure there will be many people in football who would feel, as I do, that we'd be getting what we deserve for the shabby way that we treated Marcus Bignot. Whatever misgivings one could legitimately have about his methods, he should have been given longer. The decision to bin him in the manner we did may make it that much harder to recruit the sort of manager we need should a vacancy arise.

At least there was some excitement under Bignot (amazing one week, appalling the next). Everything about the club is just boring now and I’m getting increasingly fed up. Even at the start of this season I was excited to go to games - now I’m debating whether to even go tomorrow.

I don’t know who I’d bring in. Foreign coaches only seem to work at the higher level (Wagner at Hudds, Farke at Norwich) and it’s a risky business in the lower leagues. Port Vale tried it and failed last season. I also don’t trust Fenty’s knowledge of foreign coaches, or any coaches for that matter.

This talk of Adkins is nice, until you realise that while he did well at Scunny and Southampton, he’s done pretty poorly at Reading and Sheff United since. Another Slade perhaps, though with a bit more early success? FWIW, I would try the National League route again - probably John Askey from Macc who seems to have done an alright job at Macc every season (despite falling away at the end). They don’t have much of a budget and there’s always rumours that he’ll walk away from the chairman.

After that, who knows? All the other teams are southern and part time, except Dean Keates but he’s a bit of a newbie.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Dream on, why the fcuk would a manager who has done well abroad come to us?

Money! This is a wealthy country and anyone who makes their name at Grimsby can move onwards and upwards (as PH will testify) to somewhere here where the wages are higher.

Quoted from Grantley

This talk Adkins is nice, until you realise that while he did well at Scunny and Southampton, he’s done pretty poorly at Reading and Sheff United since. Another Slade perhaps, though with a bit more early success? FWIW, I would try the National League route again - probably John Askey from Macc who seems to an alright job at Macc every season (despite falling away at the end). They don’t have much of a budget and there’s always rumours that he’ll walk away from the chairman. .

Decent shout, I'd say.

If we end up in a real relegation battle we need a man with a proven record of keeping GTFC in this division.

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;)

Take Tommy Wright from us, man has picked up 1 point in 4 games.

Grab David Healy from Linfield

Quoted from EY Mariner

I think that is absolutely spot on. Sadly, however, nothing will change in that respect until and unless parties come forward and give Mr Fenty what he wants to go. If that hasn't been clear before now, then the anti-public relations of the last week or so should have opened people's eyes to the reality.

Turning to the managerial question, I never wanted Russell Slade back in the first place and, even if he has been handicapped by tight budgets and things like that, I don't think anybody can realistically argue that he is getting the best out of the squad he has. If there is to be a change of manager in the near future, then I would prefer us to go for an up and coming manager rather than one who has been on the league merry-go-round. But, if Slade does go, I'm sure there will be many people in football who would feel, as I do, that we'd be getting what we deserve for the shabby way that we treated Marcus Bignot. Whatever misgivings one could legitimately have about his methods, he should have been given longer. The decision to bin him in the manner we did may make it that much harder to recruit the sort of manager we need should a vacancy arise.

If he had budget constraints then why was he allowed to sign 11 new players and take our squad up to 31 players? I don't accept he was restrained by his playing budget, he just wasted it on second rate bench-warmers.

Quoted from Grantley

At least there was some excitement under Bignot (amazing one week, appalling the next). Everything about the club is just boring now and I’m getting increasingly fed up. Even at the start of this season I was excited to go to games - now I’m debating whether to even go tomorrow.

I don’t know who I’d bring in. Foreign coaches only seem to work at the higher level (Wagner at Hudds, Farke at Norwich) and it’s a risky business in the lower leagues. Port Vale tried it and failed last season. I also don’t trust Fenty’s knowledge of foreign coaches, or any coaches for that matter.

This talk of Adkins is nice, until you realise that while he did well at Scunny and Southampton, he’s done pretty poorly at Reading and Sheff United since. Another Slade perhaps, though with a bit more early success? FWIW, I would try the National League route again - probably John Askey from Macc who seems to have done an alright job at Macc every season (despite falling away at the end). They don’t have much of a budget and there’s always rumours that he’ll walk away from the chairman.

After that, who knows? All the other teams are southern and part time, except Dean Keates but he’s a bit of a newbie.

Askey has been at Macc since he was a baby so I doubt you'll tempt him. Re a foreigner don't forget that the fully pro league structure in most countries i not as deep as it is here so someone from say the 4th tier in Germany may not be of a level that would give us a massive improvement on what we could recruit in the UK.

I really don`t like Slade`s brand of football but he is an experienced Manager who would probably have been considered for any vacant jobs at league 1 or 2 level so this makes me wonder why he came here? If this salary being bandied about is true 138k a year it makes me wonder why we would want to pay that sort of money and what is remit is? Bignot said his remit was to stay in the league but he was sacked when that was pretty nailed on to be mission accomplished.With virtually nil investment since I doubt Slade`s remit will have been to have won the league much more likely consolidate and possibly sneak the play offs? So why him? I think there is a bigger picture probably centred around the new ground and Slade is tasked with keeping us safe til it`s delivered then he will move to an upstairs role and another probably Wilko will get the horns of power? The thing with Slade which is most baffling is this strange choice of strikers none of them fit the mould for the type of football he is trying to play and 3 of them he signed and meanwhile large swathes of the support CBA to watch.

i think the £138K was a number Golfer plucked out of the air I think, might be wrong

At the Slade press conference, the remit was stated as "get to 50 points as quickly as possible". Slade talked of potential and not seeing any reason we can't get to the play offs and eventually League 1 where he had no doubt we were capable of being.

Getting there however, is a totally different proposition and i don't think he will ever achieve it. If he thinks those players he has signed are capable of getting us to the next level, i think he is sadly deluded and i can't believe he signed some of them. Most of them can't even force their way into the side and most games, only 4 of his signings are on the pitch. Clarke is no better than what we had and Dixon is far worse than the last incumbent. Woolford is a good experienced pro but we have signed him past his sell by date. Dembele is the only relative success and if you look at his stats, they are not very impressive. Flatters to deceive in the main.

Quoted from ginnywings

At the Slade press conference, the remit was stated as "get to 50 points as quickly as possible". Slade talked of potential and not seeing any reason we can't get to the play offs and eventually League 1 where he had no doubt we were capable of being.

Getting there however, is a totally different proposition and i don't think he will ever achieve it. If he thinks those players he has signed are capable of getting us to the next level, i think he is sadly deluded and i can't believe he signed some of them. Most of them can't even force their way into the side and most games, only 4 of his signings are on the pitch. Clarke is no better than what we had and Dixon is far worse than the last incumbent. Woolford is a good experienced pro but we have signed him past his sell by date. Dembele is the only relative success and if you look at his stats, they are not very impressive. Flatters to deceive in the main.

The discarding of Shaun Pearson told you all you need to know. I would love to know what is/our scouting network consists of and how it operates. Though Hurst got a good few wrong he seemed to know the players he wanted well in advance. RS just feels a bit out of touch.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

The discarding of Shaun Pearson told you all you need to know. I would love to know what is/our scouting network consists of and how it operates. Though Hurst got a good few wrong he seemed to know the players he wanted well in advance. RS just feels a bit out of touch.

Relatively recently Graham Rodger became chief scout I believe?

Grezz has been scouting for many years for many clubs around Championship level. It is vitally important that our recruitment improves, we need to do this better than others and find those rough diamonds.

Although Hurst was much maligned by many his work ethic in watching games and making sure Doig and Warrington were doing the same.

So far Slade has signed 1 decent player. I reckon the must maligned Bignot signed 4 good players, Hurst signed bloody hundreds but he had more time to do so. Slade's football is more depressing than the other 2, the results are worse, the recruitment is dire and the PR no different.

Seriously someone should ask at the forum what are we doing?

Quoted from Mariner_09

So far Slade has signed 1 decent player. I reckon the must maligned Bignot signed 4 good players, Hurst signed bloody hundreds but he had more time to do so. Slade's football is more depressing than the other 2, the results are worse, the recruitment is dire and the PR no different.

Seriously someoneMaybe I should ask at the forum what are we doing?

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Quoted from Mariner_09

So far Slade has signed 1 decent player. I reckon the must maligned Bignot signed 4 good players, Hurst signed bloody hundreds but he had more time to do so. Slade's football is more depressing than the other 2, the results are worse, the recruitment is dire and the PR no different.

Seriously someone should ask at the forum what are we doing?

Osborne and Jones for sure. Who are the other good ones? Bignot and Slade have a very similar record but Bignot inherited the best and most in-form striker in L2 which went some way to gaining points.

This isn't defending Slade btw, he's been awful. But Bignot was also complete shite.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

The discarding of Shaun Pearson told you all you need to know. I would love to know what is/our scouting network consists of and how it operates. Though Hurst got a good few wrong he seemed to know the players he wanted well in advance. RS just feels a bit out of touch.

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Quoted from mariner91

Osborne and Jones for sure. Who are the other good ones? Bignot and Slade have a very similar record but Bignot inherited the best and most in-form striker in L2 which went some way to gaining points.

This isn't defending Slade btw, he's been awful. But Bignot was also complete shite.

Bignot wasn’t actually far off Hurst’s PPG last year and half of Bignot’s games were without Bogle.

And to be fair to Slade, he hasn’t had Bogle at all.

This is the most laughable thread. Typical of this board is people slagging off Slade for releasing Pearson. When I last checked, Pearson is playing non league football. Large numbers on here used to regularly say Jon Nolan was a rubbish signing but he's now playing at the top of league 1.

Lots of opinions on here but opinion is cheap.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

i think the £138K was a number Golfer plucked out of the air I think, might be wrong

By being such a precise figure it has the aura of plausibility. Had he said 150K nobody would believe him.

Quoted from Grantley

Bignot wasn’t actually far off Hurst’s PPG last year and half of Bignot’s games were without Bogle.

And to be fair to Slade, he hasn’t had Bogle at all.

Bignot's PPG is closer to Slade's PPG this season than it is to Hurst's... In fact if you only include the league games either Slade or Bignot had in charge then PPG are 1.304 and 1.307 respectively. Like I said, both equally rubbish.

And I don't buy that Bignot was building for the future either. He made 8 signings and let's look at how they're getting on now. 3 (Yussuf, Clements and Asante) are struggling at the foot of the National League. 1 (Luke Maxwell) can't break into midtable Gateshead's side currently. One was Gavin Gunning so enough said there. Which leaves only two that are any use to us although they are admittedly very good players potentially (Jones and Osborne). And Dyson was not too bad although he doesn't seem to be playing for anyone at the minute. So looking at that standard generally, it is beyond belief that I still read some on here claiming that he was setting us up for a "promotion challenge". He's also doing pretty poorly at Chester where he's currently taken 9 points from 10 league games (significantly worse PPG than Slade has this season) and also lost in the FA Cup to a side a league below. Again, this isn't defending Slade. He's done terribly and his recruitment was even worse than Bignot's.

Both appointments have been a complete shambles and I have no faith that, should Slade go, our board will somehow get it right this time. The problems stem from the top and it's time we had either a complete change there or they got somebody in to help them, preferably somebody with some football experience.

You must all be so disappointed about tonight's result. Slade in

Quoted from LondonMariner43

You must all be so disappointed about tonight's result. Slade in

Not at all. One game doesn't make a season, Slade Out.

Quoted from LondonMariner43

You must all be so disappointed about tonight's result. Slade in

No. It does however beg the question.. Why on earth have we had to wait untill tonight for Town to play like that.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Not at all. One game doesn't make a season, Slade Out.

No but just take the night off please!

Just for sake of balance .two questions
How does this compare to last season and how does slade stand record now stack up against Bignot and others?

Not many giving him credit we’re its due though but very quick to get on his back it hasn’t been great lately NO every town fan will admit that but we need to build on this and despite the pathetic stuff going on off the pitch it’s the team I go to watch and lookout for not fentys daftness well done town credit we’re its due 👍

Quoted from forza ivano

Just for sake of balance .two questions
How does this compare to last season and how does slade stand record now stack up against Bignot and others?

Slade has taken charge for 24 league games and got 33 points. Bignot had 26 league games and got 34.

We are work in progress. Half way up the league for sure a few moderate signings and we are not pretty to watch but again we are half way up the league and I am OK with this. SLADE IN

Quoted from Mendonca1995

Not many giving him credit we’re its due though but very quick to get on his back it hasn’t been great lately NO every town fan will admit that but we need to build on this and despite the pathetic stuff going on off the pitch it’s the team I go to watch and lookout for not fentys daftness well done town credit we’re its due 👍

"Well done Slade" now fkoff

Quoted from mariner91

Slade has taken charge for 24 league games and got 33 points. Bignot had 26 league games and got 34.

And caused complete fukin chaos in the process.

On the evidence shown tonight, we can actually if we try, play some decent stuff on the deck...HOOFBALL should now be a thing of the past, and now only used sporadically when desperate measures are needed...Why has it taken so long to realise that though?

Quoted from forza ivano

Just for sake of balance .two questions
How does this compare to last season and how does slade stand record now stack up against Bignot and others?

Bit weird, answering my own question, but now had time to have a look, and bizarrely we are in exactly the same position as last year with 26 points from 19 games

Quoted from HertsGTFC

i think the £138K was a number Golfer plucked out of the air I think, might be wrong

Buckley was allegedly on £150k when he was sacked in 2000 - that's 17 years ago, so is £138k out of the question?

Quoted from ginnywings

At the Slade press conference, the remit was stated as "get to 50 points as quickly as possible". Slade talked of potential and not seeing any reason we can't get to the play offs and eventually League 1 where he had no doubt we were capable of being.

Getting there however, is a totally different proposition and i don't think he will ever achieve it. If he thinks those players he has signed are capable of getting us to the next level, i think he is sadly deluded and i can't believe he signed some of them. Most of them can't even force their way into the side and most games, only 4 of his signings are on the pitch. Clarke is no better than what we had and Dixon is far worse than the last incumbent. Woolford is a good experienced pro but we have signed him past his sell by date. Dembele is the only relative success and if you look at his stats, they are not very impressive. Flatters to deceive in the main.

I seem to recall Bignots remit was to get to 50 points and ensure league safety. He did that and subsequently got the sack.