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Next tuesday on RH

Bring your flasks

https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/2017/november/fans-forum-announced

A really convenient time as always.

As I live abroad, I obviously can't go. This is your chance people. There will be an attempt to fill the place with sycophants. Don't let them paper over the cracks. Make sure you all go if you can make it. Do not let him use the words "keyboard warriors." Prove him wrong.

If anyone wants to ask any of these questions for me in my absence.. thanks in advance


Benign and football fortune are words that do not sufficiently define the impact of your director's loan on the club and for potential investors. Could you be more definitive in what is meant? Wouldn't it be more honourable to convert them into shares like every other investor?

It is written in the club accounts that you are in effect in control of the club. After fifteen years of poor performances on the pitch, three relegations, six years of non-league, not a single season above tier four that didn't end in relegation, non delivery of a new stadium and lack of ability to attract new investment, wouldn't you have got the sack by now if it was an accountable paid position and how can you think that you are the best person to run the football club with this record?

Who is in charge of your PR and marketing? Who has the final say on output and why are they still in their job?

Bragate, why no comment?

Checkatrade, do you really think that fans were bullied into not going to matches? If so, what proof have you got as bullying is a strong word to use on your fanbase?

Checkatrade, why not vote against the competition and still take the money on offer? Surely that would be even better financially for the club as it would have brought you closer to the fans and earned their respect.

Your brother has stated that you have looked all around the world for investment. What marketing methods have you used and is that offer open to anyone even if it meant losing your controlling interest or is it just investment for the new stadium project?

New stadium, how and when?

What is the playing side philosophy of the club?

Most clubs market their season tickets before the end of the season, why do we leave our marketing to the last minute and why are there no new ideas of how to incentivise them after 15 years in charge?

How long do you want to remain in your position and what is your price to leave?

Shouldn't there be a minimum catering standard for the fans? Was the standard checked before handing out the contract and should it be better than it is?

Couldn't you publicly put your controlling interest up for sale as a package and see what happens?

"No Holds Barred"

With reference to Big Dogs "suggested" questions I am sure the person concerned will have a meeting with "friends" to try to come up with some answers and then contract influenza and have to cancel meeting

Quoted from Cloudy

Next tuesday on RH

Far too short notice. Got a work commitment in Sleaford from 4pm - 8pm.

Excuses coming out already 😂

Quoted from Bigdog

After fifteen years of poor performances on the pitch, three relegations, six years of non-league, not a single season above tier four that didn't end in relegation, non delivery of a new stadium and lack of ability to attract new investment, wouldn't you have got the sack by now if it was an accountable paid position and how can you think that you are the best person to run the football club with this record?

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You could spin this the other way by saying JF took over a club 3 mil in debt, with a Massive tax dept and possible winding up order, A massive overdraft and a previous Charmin /Director asking for his Directors loans back of circa 800k now whilst he has been Chairman / None Chairman he has seen 1 relegation and 1 Promotion 4 times to Wembley and 1 trip to Cardiff, No overdraft or Tax bill outstanding and the club dept is reduced to 2mil and self sufficient..

and I believe for the record town has been relegated twice out the football league previously in the 1960 and was re elected both times back, this period the gates also where around 2k per game .

Quoted from Rob_in_Grimsby

You could spin this the other way by saying JF took over a club 3 mil in debt, with a Massive tax dept and possible winding up order, A massive overdraft and a previous Charmin /Director asking for his Directors loans back of circa 800k now whilst he has been Chairman / None Chairman he has seen 1 relegation and 1 Promotion 4 times to Wembley and 1 trip to Cardiff, No overdraft or Tax bill outstanding and the club dept is reduced to 2mil and self sufficient..

and I believe for the record town has been relegated twice out the football league previously in the 1960 and was re elected both times back, this period the gates also where around 2k per game .

Spin is the word. And not even clever spin.

The reduction in debt by £1m, exactly the amount given to the club by MP and the Trust

Plus £1m Bogle money gone whose transfer fee was raised by OP

3 relegations not one, you're using a technicality

Promotion - From non fooking league
Wembley appearances - Non fooking league competitions
Cardiff - We lost

Are you seriously defending the last fifteen years?

Quoted from Bigdog

Spin is the word. And not even clever spin.

The reduction in debt by £1m, exactly the amount given to the club by MP and the Trust

Plus £1m Bogle money gone whose transfer fee was raised by OP

3 relegations not one, you're using a technicality

Promotion - From non fooking league
Wembley appearances - Non fooking league competitions
Cardiff - We lost

Are you seriously defending the last fifteen years?

Facts are Facts and can be spun both ways to suite,
You being a very angry glass half empty poster only see the negatives and irrespective of what league we where in or if we lost or won we still went to these places.
The club is in a far better place than Halifax, Chester or Darlington for example, all of which we have played in the last decade.
Did I enjoy none league No, Do I think we can do better on the pitch YES am I happy with the performances this season NO but I am just trying to put things in perspective,

Quoted from Rob_in_Grimsby

Facts are Facts and can be spun both ways to suite,
You being a very angry ]glass half empty poster only see the negatives and irrespective of what league we where in or if we lost or won we still went to these places.
The club is in a far better place than Halifax, Chester or Darlington for example, all of which we have played in the last decade.
Did I enjoy none league No, Do I think we can do better on the pitch YES am I happy with the performances this season NO but I am just trying to put things in perspective,

You missed out Hereford and Stockport, another two footballing giants we all aspired to over the years..

Anyone who is happy with the performances this season must also spend their time comparing beige colour charts to decide which tone to decorate their house with, writing to the Grimsby Telegraph letters page and trainspotting.

Quoted from Rob_in_Grimsby

Facts are Facts and can be spun both ways to suite,
You being a very angry glass half empty poster only see the negatives and irrespective of what league we where in or if we lost or won we still went to these places.
The club is in a far better place than Halifax, Chester or Darlington for example, all of which we have played in the last decade.
Did I enjoy none league No, Do I think we can do better on the pitch YES am I happy with the performances this season NO but I am just trying to put things in perspective,

How are these facts for you, the club paid back the tax debt because if the tax man put us in Admin JF would lose the money he had put in so far, so to manage the repayments was in his financial interest. Yes he paid Ramsden off and he took that back in pension payments over 4 years whilst we were paying the taxman back, how much was those repayments and how did those repayments effect the books and playing budget.

The biggest fact of them all, the hiring and firing was done by Fenty and the board so the failures are his to absorb but, there could have been a bit of saving grace had he bought shares but no saddle the club with benign debt that hangs over the club like the sword of Damocles and turns away potential investors.

MP was promised certain things when he joined the board, a short time later he left the board stating that certain promises weren't kept, who made those promises and what were they.

Squabbling with Mighty Mariner over £18 and all the media guffs, falling out with fans and anybody that challenges him. Snapping a kids flag and making ludicrous statements about female fans and flares, and then not defending our fans when they have been abused.

Quoted from Rob_in_Grimsby

Facts are Facts and can be spun both ways to suite,
You being a very angry glass half empty poster only see the negatives and irrespective of what league we where in or if we lost or won we still went to these places.
The club is in a far better place than Halifax, Chester or Darlington for example, all of which we have played in the last decade.
Did I enjoy none league No, Do I think we can do better on the pitch YES am I happy with the performances this season NO but I am just trying to put things in perspective,

What a bizarre comparison. Too bloody right we should be in a better position than those three clubs as we have been throughout pretty much our entire existence. The only reason we played them in the last decade is because we've been at our lowest ebb. What about clubs like Burton, Scunthorpe or Shrewsbury who we have traditionally fared much better than and now we can't get anywhere near them on or off the pitch?

Quoted from Rob_in_Grimsby

Facts are Facts and can be spun both ways to suite,
You being a very angry glass half empty poster only see the negatives and irrespective of what league we where in or if we lost or won we still went to these places.
The club is in a far better place than Halifax, Chester or Darlington for example, all of which we have played in the last decade.
Did I enjoy none league No, Do I think we can do better on the pitch YES am I happy with the performances this season NO but I am just trying to put things in perspective,

There will always be examples such as those you quote but there are far more that are in a better position than us who used to be our level and lower. There are names in the top division (Bournemouth), The Championship (Barnsley, Hull) but more pertinently, there are local clubs that are now in a far better place than us (Donny, Scunny and even Lincoln) and that's what hurts. I don't see that as being glass half empty - I see that as reality.

Quoted from Bigdog

It is written in the club accounts that you are in effect in control of the club. After fifteen years of poor performances on the pitch, three relegations, six years of non-league, not a single season above tier four that didn't end in relegation, non delivery of a new stadium and lack of ability to attract new investment, wouldn't you have got the sack by now if it was an accountable paid position and how can you think that you are the best person to run the football club with this record?

Like this question above all others, sums it all up for me,  please can someone make sure it is asked WORD FOR WORD

Not that keen on the new stadium topic though, its been done to death. It will allow Fenty to slide out from under the more crunchy stuff by bullshitting at length using totally meaningless phrases (enablement etc) ad infinitum on the stadium issue and confusing / deceiving everyfucker. Also of course the way he is running the club we won't need a new ground anyway!

Incidentally is Fenty on the square? does anyone know?

Quoted from Bigdog

You missed out Hereford and Stockport, another two footballing giants we all aspired to over the ages..

Difficult to comprehend given that Hereford are playing four levels below Town in the Pyramid set up, but they are having a great time of it at the moment.

Reborn as a Phoenix club in 2015-16 they have won both league titles at first time of asking and are well placed in the Evostik South Premier Division for a third successive promotion. They are a community based, fans owned club, and their average attendance this season is 2,350 - but that's home and away. Some of the clubs they play away report record attedances when Hereford come to town with a regular away following of four figures. Their highest home gate so far this season is 4,700 against Telford two weeks ago.

Yes, they've a long way to go but I reckon they'll be back in the Football League within five years. It's what happens when a club's fans buy into becoming such a club.

What a great opportunity to see which side of the table the real bully is

People who have a true interest in the club should go. I am on a holiday which was booked in march so won't be there.
There should be sensible constructive questions. They might get sensible constructive answers.
If it turns out to be a slanging match it will be a massive opportunity missed by all concerned
The media must be controlled and not be allowed to sensationalise situations

The supporters trust should give positive leadership on consolidating sensible questions which hopefully the club directorate will respond in an open manner

Let's hope that all of this is on the back of an entertaining draw at home tomorrow and a vital away win on Saturday

Looking forward to attending my first fans forum. Ill hopefully have the opportunity to ask a few questions, trying to get to the nitty gritty as Bigdog and others have suggested. Never been the best public speaker, but needs must!

Important we don't let Fenty use his political experience to distract those present from the real issues that currently affect OUR club. Watch out for the long, rambling answers to insignificant, planted questions relating to "Dribble". Time to give the board a drilling about THEIR performance in running GTFC.

Why can't it be at the weekend? Oh that's right, a wider cross-section of people will be able to go.

Quoted from Rob_in_Grimsby

I believe for the record town has been relegated twice out the football league previously in the 1960 and was re elected both times back, this period the gates also where around 2k per game .

That's not correct. Town were only re-elected once the 1968-1969 season when they finished second bottom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968%E2%80%9369_Football_League#Fourth_Division

All the bottom four that year have tasted non-league in the modern era of 2 up 2 down.

Re-election was, of course, the norm. Hartlepool were re-elected by their fellow clubs a record 11 times. So their demise last year was long overdue. Only 5 out of 32 clubs who sought re-election were ever relegated and they were normally serial offenders: Gateshead (1960), Bradford Park Avenue (1970), Barrow (1972), Workington (1977) and Southport (1978 ).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re-election_(Football_League)

Quoted from GrimRob

That's not correct. Town were only re-elected once the 1968-1969 season when they finished second bottom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968%E2%80%9369_Football_League#Fourth_Division

All the bottom four that year have tasted non-league in the modern era of 2 up 2 down.

Re-election was, of course, the norm. Hartlepool were re-elected by their fellow clubs a record 11 times. So their demise last year was long overdue. Only 5 out of 32 clubs who sought re-election were ever relegated and they were normally serial offenders: Gateshead (1960), Bradford Park Avenue (1970), Barrow (1972), Workington (1977) and Southport (1978 ).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re-election_(Football_League)

thanks Rob for correcting me, I could have sworn it was twice in the 60's I stand corrected

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

People who have a true interest in the club should go. I am on a holiday which was booked in march so won't be there.
There should be sensible constructive questions. They might get sensible constructive answers.
If it turns out to be a slanging match it will be a massive opportunity missed by all concerned
The media must be controlled and not be allowed to sensationalise situations

The supporters trust should give positive leadership on consolidating sensible questions which hopefully the club directorate will respond in an open manner

Let's hope that all of this is on the back of an entertaining draw at home tomorrow and a vital away win on Saturday

Please help me by which part of the above warranted six red crosses. I am at a loss

Me too Ilkley. I don't always see eye-to-eye with you but there's nothing I would disagree with in your post. Can't say there's anything controversial at all.

Quoted from Bigdog

As I live abroad, I obviously can't go. This is your chance people. There will be an attempt to fill the place with sycophants. Don't let them paper over the cracks. Make sure you all go if you can make it. Do not let him use the words "keyboard warriors." Prove him wrong.

If anyone wants to ask any of these questions for me in my absence.. thanks in advance


Benign and football fortune are words that do not sufficiently define the impact of your director's loan on the club and for potential investors. Could you be more definitive in what is meant? Wouldn't it be more honourable to convert them into shares like every other investor?

It is written in the club accounts that you are in effect in control of the club. After fifteen years of poor performances on the pitch, three relegations, six years of non-league, not a single season above tier four that didn't end in relegation, non delivery of a new stadium and lack of ability to attract new investment, wouldn't you have got the sack by now if it was an accountable paid position and how can you think that you are the best person to run the football club with this record?

Who is in charge of your PR and marketing? Who has the final say on output and why are they still in their job?

Bragate, why no comment?

Checkatrade, do you really think that fans were bullied into not going to matches? If so, what proof have you got as bullying is a strong word to use on your fanbase?

Checkatrade, why not vote against the competition and still take the money on offer? Surely that would be even better financially for the club as it would have brought you closer to the fans and earned their respect.

Your brother has stated that you have looked all around the world for investment. What marketing methods have you used and is that offer open to anyone even if it meant losing your controlling interest or is it just investment for the new stadium project?

New stadium, how and when?

What is the playing side philosophy of the club?

Most clubs market their season tickets before the end of the season, why do we leave our marketing to the last minute and why are there no new ideas of how to incentivise them after 15 years in charge?

How long do you want to remain in your position and what is your price to leave?

Shouldn't there be a minimum catering standard for the fans? Was the standard checked before handing out the contract and should it be better than it is?

Couldn't you publicly put your controlling interest up for sale as a package and see what happens?

What time is it there, if I was you being so concerned and supertive, I would get a flight back mush.

Quoted from Squarkus

What time is it there, if I was you being so concerned and supertive, I would get a flight back mush.

Remember though folks, we're the fuckwits.

Quoted from IlkleyMariner
People who have a true interest in the club should go. I amWAS GOING on a holiday which was booked in march AND NOW CANCELLED so won'tWILL be there.
There should be sensible constructive questions. They might get sensible constructive answers.
If it turns out to be a slanging match it will be a massive opportunity missed by all concerned
The media must be controlled and not be allowed to sensationalise situations

The supporters trust should give positive leadership on consolidating sensible questions which hopefully the club directorate will respond in an open manner

Let's hope that all of this is on the back of an entertaining draw WIN at home tomorrow and a vital away win on Saturday
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Quoted from IlkleyMariner..
Please help me by which part of the above warranted six red crosses. I am at a loss.....
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There you go Ilkley,I've revised your post, everyone will alter the red crosses they gave you to green ticks now .

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

People who have a true interest in the club should go. I am on a holiday which was booked in march so won't be there.
There should be sensible constructive questions. They might get sensible constructive answers.
If it turns out to be a slanging match it will be a massive opportunity missed by all concerned
The media must be controlled and not be allowed to sensationalise situations

The supporters trust should give positive leadership on consolidating sensible questions which hopefully the club directorate will respond in an open manner

Let's hope that all of this is on the back of an entertaining draw at home tomorrow and a vital away win on Saturday

If that doesn't unwittingly encapsulate the stifling lack of ambition at the club then I don't know what does.

Quoted from Squarkus

What time is it there, if I was you being so concerned and supertive, I would get a flight back mush
.

Definition of mush - a soft, wet, pulpy mass, feeble or cloying sentimentality, thick maize porridge.

Quoted from Squarkus

What time is it there, if I was you being so concerned and supertive, I would get a flight back mush.

Surprised you didn't use the word 'fella' that's always been a JSF favourite  

The more he posts the more I am convinced Squarkus is JF's alter ego.

Quoted from Squarkus

What time is it there, if I was you being so concerned and supertive, I would get a flight back mush.

"were" not "was"             "supertive"  fk knows what that means-was it what Noddy said to Big Ears ?   ficko

Quoted from golfer

"were" not "was"             "supertive"  fk knows what that means-was it what Noddy said to Big Ears ?   ficko

More indicative of someone who is dyslexic which we really should not ridicule,do we know anyone else who is afflicted by this?

if anyone is going please dont ask old questions and waste everyones time.....trust shares... Mike Parker ...etc .... and keep questions factual...we know someone likes to stick to facts.
Ie if anyone is challenging/questioning what is happening with the new ground then go back and check what has been said/promised timescale wise so you have direct challenges to make and avoid waffly politician style empty responses.

political experience,  you mean being a local councilor  who is best known for saying he will dig the grass of Cleethorpes beach lol.. He thinks he is better than us that is where it ends , he is no better than any of us and never will be . Money maketh no man .

Quoted from friskneymariner

The more he posts the more I am convinced Squarkus is JF's alter ego.

It's one of his brothers, Mark I think, the one who owns Positive Activities, used to be called Get Hooked on Positive Activities, I hear they have plans in for a bigger site. I wonder if it's destined for Peaks Parkway, as GTFC is listed as a partner.

Sonik I believe is Steve, who seems to be the more reasonable of the Fenty clan.

Quoted from Grimal

Definition of mush - a soft, wet, pulpy mass, feeble or cloying sentimentality,

Please don't bring my wife into this.

I was going to attend and give the board a roasting, but after a bit of contemplation I have decided not to.  All of these questions should have been answered at the time, the fans stood up for at the time, not a few weeks later when the idiot in charge is feeling a bit of heat. I feel this forum will help legitimise the clubs actions rather than hold them to account. I am boycotting the club completely instead until fenty goes.

Quoted from Marinerz93

It's one of his brothers, Mark I think, the one who owns Positive Activities, used to be called Get Hooked on Positive Activities, I hear they have plans in for a bigger site. I wonder if it's destined for Peaks Parkway, as GTFC is listed as a partner.

Sonik I believe is Paul, who seems to be the more reasonable of the Fenty clan.

Wrong on both counts. Sorry!

Lets get behind the team tonight and hope for a win. That might cheer us all up?

UTM!

I agree with realist all the questions should have been answered ages ago,

If they have not addressed them by now they wont at the forum,

BUT

If they do will somebody should ask why has it taken the fishy to go into meltdown for them to come forward with the answers.

Town Have had to seek re election twice,  Once in 3rd Division North and once in 4th division

Lets get behind the team tonight and hope for a win. That might cheer us all up?

Someone suggested that for last Saturday. It's like being in a vast unlit maze...come on, bet there's an exit round the next corner! Oh...

Quoted from The_Laughing_Mariner

Town Have had to seek re election twice,  Once in 3rd Division North and once in 4th division

You are right, as well as the 1968/1969 season in Division 4 there was the 1954/55 season in Division 3 North, a fact which had escaped me!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954%E2%80%9355_Football_League#Third_Division_North

the good news is we were Champions the next season, having kept the same manager (there was no social media in those days to demand his sacking!)

Quoted from GrimRob

You are right, as well as the 1968/1969 season in Division 4 there was the 1954/55 season in Division 3 North, a fact which had escaped me!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954%E2%80%9355_Football_League#Third_Division_North

the good news is we were Champions the next season, having kept the same manager (there was no social media in those days to demand his sacking!)

That was when my dad first took me to watch the mariners play,

We had just moved back from living in Middlesbrough for 2 years and Town were near the bottom of the league,

Then Allenby Chilton came from Man Utd as player manager and we got promoted in my full season as a supporter.

I thought it would always be like that.

Quoted from sonik

Wrong on both counts. Sorry!

Lets get behind the team tonight and hope for a win. That might cheer us all up?

UTM!

I stand corrected on your name Steve, on the other count do you regard yourself as unreasonable  

[quote=347]

I stand corrected on your name Steve, on the other count do you regard yourself as unreasonable  [/quote

Unreasonable in what way?  I think I'm balanced in my views for all things GTFC. For all the negativity and sometimes down right hurtful comments aimed at mainly John and our family I think are unfair. Yes I'll stick up for what I believe are wrongs. Wouldn't you? Believe me we are all saddened with the current plight on the pitch but we must come together to turn things around.

Those saying its a closed shop with regards John are so off the mark in my opinion. Please come to the fans forum and ask what you like. No holds barred!

UTM!

Well Sonik at least you acknowledge things are wrong,it would be nice if John acknowledged and  accept what is wrong is appointment of Slade as manager.

Quoted from friskneymariner

Well Sonik at least you acknowledge things are wrong,it would be nice if John acknowledged and  accept what is wrong is appointment of Slade as manager.

That's your opinion of which I value. I may not agree with it at this time.

UTM!

Quoted from sonik

That's your opinion of which I value. I may not agree with it at this time.

UTM!

Thanks Sonik could you be so kind as to illuminate me with your alternative theory.

Quoted from friskneymariner

Thanks Sonik could you be so kind as to illuminate me with your alternative theory.

Not just yet. Keep calm and lets hope we win tonight. Maybe post after the game.

UTM!

You tease.

Quoted from sonik

Not just yet. Keep calm and lets hope we win tonight. Maybe post after the game.

UTM!

Wow !!!  So what you are saying is....
you dont see the point in answering a question on Slade until after the game as you have the inside info from a leading board member (no names mentioned) that he might get the boot this evening anyway if we dont win in a convincing, crowd pleasing manner.....what a scoop !!

Tweet that Matt Dean    

" Russell Slade will get sacked this evening if Town dont win, i expect this to happen " ..  

Must admit that is what I read into it.

Quoted from sonik

That's your opinion of which I value. I may not agree with it at this time.

UTM!

I assume the significant word in that is 'this'.maybe after 9.45 may agree eh,nudge nudge.

Quoted from sonik

[quote=347]

I stand corrected on your name Steve, on the other count do you regard yourself as unreasonable  [/quote

Unreasonable in what way?  I think I'm balanced in my views for all things GTFC. For all the negativity and sometimes down right hurtful comments aimed at mainly John and our family I think are unfair. Yes I'll stick up for what I believe are wrongs. Wouldn't you? Believe me we are all saddened with the current plight on the pitch but we must come together to turn things around.

Those saying its a closed shop with regards John are so off the mark in my opinion. Please come to the fans forum and ask what you like. No holds barred!

UTM!

It was a play on words, you said I was wrong on two accounts, one being your name obviously so as you didn't say what the other account was I saw it as an opportunity just to tease you a little, no malice intended. Like I have said previously I have found you quite reasonable, that's from observations on here and speaking to you a couple of times when we have been travelling away, one time you dispensed several tinnies from the boot of your car, If I remember rightly your dark blue BMW as you may have a new motor now.

Saddened isn't a word I would use, the fear of dropping into the abyss again could be a reality with Captain John seemingly hapless and clueless as to what is wrong and how to fix it, and with his previous form I have lost all confidence that he can do something proactive because he has always been reactive. He lacks that spark to enthuse and breed confidence, and with his mix of, lack of and unwarranted comments has destroyed the massive goodwill this club had prior to the MB sacking. The atmosphere around the club is becoming like it was when Bill Carr was ousted but that was by a syndicate operating behind the scenes, this time it's from the fans which will only get worse unless an olive branch is offered, and it needs really sweet olives on it by the way.

He needs to start making things happen on and off the pitch or step aside and let someone with real drive and determination take over because people are fed up of treading water with a few dips under the waves as we tire. A bit like waiting for a bit of football fortune or a bit like waiting for a goal and win at BP.

Quoted from moosey_club

Wow !!!  So what you are saying is....
you dont see the point in answering a question on Slade until after the game as you have the inside info from a leading board member (no names mentioned) that he might get the boot this evening anyway if we dont win in a convincing, crowd pleasing manner.....what a scoop !!

Tweet that Matt Dean    

" Russell Slade will get sacked this evening if Town dont win, i expect this to happen " ..  

Or maybe.

The two new signings going straight into tonight’s line up 🤔🤔
The sort that could very much improve a play off bid. Show serious intent by the club
And could defuse too much aggression at a hastily called fans forum.  ???

Obviously this is pure speculation on my part !!!

All very quiet..........im sure we just won 3-2! UTM! Knew it would all come good in the end. Patience patience patience!!

Fanny fish tail. One swallow doesn't make a summer. He is still drinking at the last chance saloon for many weeks to come.

Quoted from Fishy_fishtails

All very quiet..........im sure we just won 3-2! UTM! Knew it would all come good in the end. Patience patience patience!!

Nothing has changed Slade and Fenty out now!

Quoted from Fishy_fishtails

All very quiet..........im sure we just won 3-2! UTM! Knew it would all come good in the end. Patience patience patience!!

We won I thought the 3rd goal was given offside,

Bloody Ivano  

Quoted from grimsby pete

We won I thought the 3rd goal was given offside,

Bloody Ivano  

I did say it was disallowed, although it appears to have benn Davies clearance off the line

I wonder how many "fans" were really hoping for another poor goalless display and another defeat as a means to an end?

Great to get the much needed win but it shouldn't paper over the cracks with what's wrong at the club.

Quoted from Fishy_fishtails

All very quiet..........im sure we just won 3-2! UTM! Knew it would all come good in the end. Patience patience patience!!

Due to your absolutely blind and ignorant loyalty, what you cannot grasp is that these hard working fans that you're showing a complete lack of class to, have gone through weeks, months and years of being bored, disappointed and thoroughly cheesed off with the product that's been offered up as entertainment, spent hundreds and thousands of pounds and travelled thousands of miles to watch their team and all you want to do is belittle them at any ill-conceived opportunity that comes along..

Well we're all over the moon we've won tonight, so what's your point?

Are you saying I haven't? I've travelled I've supported I've been frustrated. My point is we won this evening and people still can't let up, just for one evening. Breath a sigh of relief and ponder over what a fantastic game of football was on offer. I am not belittling anyone, far from it!

Quoted from jock dock tower

I wonder how many "fans" were really hoping for another poor goalless display and another defeat as a means to an end?

Great to get the much needed win but it shouldn't paper over the cracks with what's wrong at the club.

Not me. I want some entertainment, and even if it's Donald Trump in charge i wouldn't care. I sincerely hope that Slade makes me eat my words and a few more performances like tonight will go a long way.

Quoted from jock dock tower

I wonder how many "fans" were really hoping for another poor goalless display and another defeat as a means to an end?

Great to get the much needed win but it shouldn't paper over the cracks with what's wrong at the club.

Not in a million years. Will always want the team to win but it shouldn't mask the real issues.

Fanny fish tail. We are all happy we won and until you came on here gloating ,there wasn't a negative comment. Fans aren't happy at the moment with everything at GTFC and you coming on here stirring the crap isn't helping Mr Fenty or Mr Slade. After your comments the other night about disabled drivers, I am surprised you haven't been thrown off this site,

I haven't made any comments about any drivers?! I think you have me mixed up with someone else!

Really confused as to why my last post has a red cross. Search through my posts and you will see that I have never posted anything about disabled drivers. You've mixed me up with someone else as I have just said! I can tell you exactly who it was that posted it and can assure you it wasn't me!

Quoted from Fishy_fishtails

Really confused as to why my last post has a red cross. Search through my posts and you will see that I have never posted anything about disabled drivers. You've mixed me up with someone else as I have just said! I can tell you exactly who it was that posted it and can assure you it wasn't me!

I agree, in the spirit of fairness, it was Squarkus..

Last night`s win was great for the team the manager and the long suffering fans but the fans forum the issues should mainly be about Mr Fenty and the future of the Club and where it`s going.

Quoted from 1mickylyons

Last night`s win was great for the team the manager and the long suffering fans but the fans forum the issues should mainly be about Mr Fenty and the future of the Club and where it`s going.

IMO this is spot on.

The playing side is a side issue but as a club we will never push on whilst someone is so closed minded to so many things and believes the fans are idiots

Could last nights winner be a 'get out of jail' goal for john and russ at the forum?

Quoted from Cod Cheeks

Could last nights winner be a 'get out of jail' goal for john and russ at the forum?

If we win Saturday in my opinion Mr Fenty should still have a lot of questions to answer next week they won`t go away.

Slade will divide opinion I personally am not a fan BUT he should not be sacked based on the points tally he has amassed thus far versus the players he has been able to recruit via his limited budget.
However another one with questions to answer
He can and should be criticised for the style of play he has largely played when clearly the fans and even his players don`t buy into it and yet when they get the ball down they look like they can actually play?
He will probably get some grief over his signings and the size of the squad versus the lack of obvious quality within it

Quoted from Cod Cheeks

Could last nights winner be a 'get out of jail' goal for john and russ at the forum?

This is a purely personal view but after seemingly days/weeks  of thread after thread on here having a go at the powers that be, if one result defuses things then this site and several major contributors to it would lose significant credibility. The club have made the thing possible and it simply has to be taken seriously in both camps for the process of re-building to start.  Without it the same old stuff will be trotted out every time we embark on a poor run with accusations and counter-accusations.

Quoted from forza ivano

I did say it was disallowed, although it appears to have benn Davies clearance off the line

I thought you were talking about our 3rd goal mate.

Quoted from 1mickylyons

Last night`s win was great for the team the manager and the long suffering fans but the fans forum the issues should mainly be about Mr Fenty and the future of the Club and where it`s going.

Completely agree and Codalmighty get it absolutely spot on in their diary today

http://codalmighty.com/site/ca.php?article=6507  

Quoted from barralad

This is a purely personal view but after seemingly days/weeks  of thread after thread on here having a go at the powers that be, if one result defuses things then this site and several major contributors to it would lose significant credibility. The club have made the thing possible and it simply has to be taken seriously in both camps for the process of re-building to start.  Without it the same old stuff will be trotted out every time we embark on a poor run with accusations and counter-accusations.

I think the ball is in Fenty's court Ian,

Treat the fans with a lot more respect, keep us informed instead of silence, support the fans ie like at Stevenage,

Then he will get a lot of respect back,

Plus he must tell Slade to put a attacking team on the pitch and no more hoofball,

Simples  

Quoted from barralad

This is a purely personal view but after seemingly days/weeks  of thread after thread on here having a go at the powers that be, if one result defuses things then this site and several major contributors to it would lose significant credibility. The club have made the thing possible and it simply has to be taken seriously in both camps for the process of re-building to start.  Without it the same old stuff will be trotted out every time we embark on a poor run with accusations and counter-accusations.

Quite right the football/results have not been great but it`s the other stuff needs resolving and it`s far too important to be brushed aside.

Quoted from grimsby pete

I think the ball is in Fenty's court Ian,

Treat the fans with a lot more respect, keep us informed instead of silence, support the fans ie like at Stevenage,

Then he will get a lot of respect back,

Plus he must tell Slade to put a attacking team on the pitch and no more hoofball,

Simples  

I actually think the ball is in the fans court. Those that can need to turn up and question the running of the club? Demand answers to the questions that keep cropping up time and time again.

Starter for 10)

" John, do you think the responses given on the Official site to the Curtis Woodhouse 'affair' were reasonable and professional and showed the club in a good light"

I would like to take this opportunity to apologise to Fishy_fishtails, regarding my post last night. Caught up in the astonishment of a win whilst playing decent football I wrongly accused him of making horrible comments about disabled drivers, It wasn't him. It was Squarkus.I do however stand by my other comments.

Quoted from barralad

This is a purely personal view but after seemingly days/weeks  of thread after thread on here having a go at the powers that be, if one result defuses things then this site and several major contributors to it would lose significant credibility. The club have made the thing possible and it simply has to be taken seriously in both camps for the process of re-building to start.  Without it the same old stuff will be trotted out every time we embark on a poor run with accusations and counter-accusations.

Personally speaking, it defuses nothing. I'm a Town fan through thick & thin and will always want the 11 on the pitch to do what they did last night. Further than that, I would not criticise Mr Fenty for all the time & effort he puts in to the club - he is clearly as passionate about GTFC as the rest of us. My biggest issue is the 'them & us' mentality that seems to exist. There's many GTFC fans who would absolutely jump at the opportunity to invest their energy in the club if it were more inclusive. There's many GTFC fans who spend far more than they probably should following the club through thick & thin, travelling huge distances tp Plymouth, Exeter, and yes, Stevenage, and those fans deserve a bit back sometimes. Thankfully, the players did that last night, but a bit more respect from the boardroom wouldn't go amiss!

If it had ended up a 2-2 or 3-3 draw last night,

The fans would have enjoyed the game so much more than a 0-0 stalemate,

The Fishy would have still been positive and fans would want to go to the next home game.

That must tell Slade something I hope.

Think the tone of this may be a little different now!

I'd like to go having never been before, can you just roll up or do you need to book? Anyone been before?

Just turn up

Quoted from Jaws

Think the tone of this may be a little different now!

I'd like to go having never been before, can you just roll up or do you need to book? Anyone been before?

What time can you get there ?