Subs  Eastwood, Smith, Holohan, Vernam, Wilson, Rose, Andrews

A bit of a change up front and it's good to see Rose on the bench. Thompson captain is a surprise, so I wonder if he's been lined up for the job next year

Pitch looks heavy. Probably why Rose and Vernham on the bench.

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

Pitch looks heavy. Probably why Rose and Vernham on the bench.

Saving them for Monday

Quoted from DB

A bit of a change up front and it's good to see Rose on the bench. Thompson captain is a surprise, so I wonder if he's been lined up for the job next year

Not surprised at Thompson at Captain - I thought he’d be lined up for the job next season. Rose leads from the front by example but better having someone in the middle of the park talking to the defence

What a shocking stadium.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Not surprised at Thompson at Captain - I thought he’d be lined up for the job next season. Rose leads from the front by example but better having someone in the middle of the park talking to the defence

I'm all for that, as a captain in midfield is better located than upfront, or defence.

1st game in a while for me due to playing Saturday league football again.
£10 on 3.5/1 for a Grimsby win, what could possibly go wrong 👀

Had a surreal night already, so Town will probably win 4-0

Come on lads!! A point today would be a very good result.

That stadium is a joke awful

Sound quality is pants. Can't hear the crowd but can some tinny chatter.

1-0 not the start we wanted !!!

flipping "defending" on that!

Terrible by Rodger’s, he cut it out but tried to control instead of just clearing and it went away from him

Wtf is that defending. Utterly useless

Rodgers???

That was a load of rubbish defending. Man unmarked in the box and under Cartwright. 1 0 down

Here we go again.  Need to out that over the stand.

Absolutely excrement

Oh ffs

FFS! Same old f***ing same old. A goal down in under 15 minutes. Will we ever learn!

Horrendous from rodgers Sunday league level defending

Absolutely Sunday league from Rodgers . Another one we need to get rid of

Awful defending. Love to make it hard for ourselves

Same old same old

Absolutely no excuse for that. Clear your flipping lines! It's not rocket science. 😡

Sorry for indulging in hyperbole but that might be one of the worst pieces of defending I've seen from a professional footballer.

Would be great if Town could come from behind and win for a change🫢
Fighting qualities required ~ NOW!!

Crap touch from Rogers but Tharme was miles out of position leaving no cover as well

Rodgers is flipping garbage but where were the centre halves?! Where was Hume. Hopeless

It's like watching Groundhog Day. Start ok until the defence cocks it up yet again.

Why do we always have one player who makes a massive mistake that costs us !!

These so called defenders are a liability so frustrating.

Watching Green trying to run back chasing their player is just embarrassing

For those watching on TV the stand on the left is that a temp?

Quoted from gytone

Why do we always have one player who makes a massive mistake that costs us !!

Because we keep signing bargain basement players .

Yes! FGR losing

Nothing like giving goals away. Hurst signed some dross

First 15 mins keep it tight.  If in doubt then launch the ball. Please!

Is marking an abstract concept to our defenders?

Do these players train with each other ? It looks like they don’t know each other

That's something we can't do.  Get a good cross into the danger area. We can't even do it from a dead ball.  fanny about squaring it.

2-0 Game over!!!

Christ alive. We're in danger of losing our goal difference advantage.

Nothing like giving goals away. Hurst signed some dross

Awful is being kind

Easypeesy 2 0 down and no defence. I feel very very sorry for those fans there having to watch that.

Made of jelly ....

Game over & back to looking like a relegation side again 🙄

And yet again …..2-0 down after 20 minutes. They are absolutely f***ig sh*t and deserve to go down.

flipping useless girl privates.
Relying on 2 teams to be even flipping worse which takes some doing.

Stockton on Teestogreen
Doh!

How are some of these professional footballers . They are a disgrace some of these are the worst players who have played for this club just terrible . Get out of our club!!

Fgr 1 down

At least make teams work for their goals ffs.

Back to pratting around at the back

This is just embarrassing. Thompson a good player?? He’s fu.cking shi.t

Get Artell out ffs

Back to having no heart, balderdash, desire whatever you want to call it as soon we have a set back. Sack the lot of them in the summer and start again.

YOU CAN TACKLE RODGERS.

flipping useless spineless illegitimates

Our brief run of defensive resilience is over then.

Can’t win matches with individual mistakes like these, just terrible quality players.

Quoted from moosey_club

Made of jelly ....

Jelly underbelly sadly

Tondeur going on about our good start. Opposition teams know we are made of glass so just take a few minutes till we make the first of many mistakes and then kill us off.

This is the cost of sustainable football, you end up with the dross of the league
Rose excluded

We have nothing to aim for up front.

Grimsby Town.
Spoiling Saturdays, Tuesday nights and Bank Holidays for many years.

Sorry to say it but this team flipping deserves to go down. I’ve never seen a team so easily and comfortably rolled over as we are.

‘Jelly’ - great word to describe it - unfortunately

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

Get Artell out ffs

How is he to blame for Rodgers' and Thompson's brain fades? Have a dsy off

Quoted from barralad

We have nothing to aim for up front.

We’re expecting an 18 year old kid to work miracles. He has no support within 15 yards

You have to feel for the travelling Town fans, all that way and the games over after 22 minutes.

SOMEBODY SHOOT OR STICK IN A WHIPPED IN CROSS.

When we go forward we are so laboured and slow, no plan, just running in to trouble of hitting balls over the top which we haven’t won one

I can smell a Meltdown coming..

Quoted from davmariner

Sorry to say it but this team flipping deserves to go down. I’ve never seen a team so easily and comfortably rolled over as we are.

The team might deserve to go down, but not the club and fans.

Quoted from promotion plaice

You have to feel for the travelling Town fans, all that way and the games over after 22 minutes.

My thoughts aswell

Can't wait for this season to end.

Green is our best player today so far, that says it all

Its truely abysmal, I wouldn't keep any of this lot for the National League campaign

I haven't watched for ages but Rodgers is excrement and our striker is not a footballer.
Thame seems OK and a couple the central midfielders seem like they can play but aren't getting the ball enough

Quoted from denni266

Can't wait for this season to end.

Me too no more weekends ruined gunna be amazing

We are there gift that never stops giving.

Has Wood touched the ball? Seems he’s stuck out wide left

Arthur had enough again another waist of a wage, made of glass but no bottle

Quoted from immariner

How is he to blame for Rodgers' and Thompson's brain fades? Have a dsy off

This team is his now and clearly worse than hursts . So easy to beat and he’s responsible for it . Should’ve gone after the Donny game . We’re soft as shi.t and he’s in charge.

Up front a U23 loanee behind him in the 10 ish role an under 23 loanee. No way back here.

Quoted from Wrights35

Me too no more weekends ruined gunna be amazing

But then we have England in euros to disappoint us !

What I find annoying is they attack, crash bang wallop and a shot goes in. We attack and pass, pass etc and no shot.

We can’t pass flipping water & look clueless up front.

We don’t have one player who can take on an opponent and beat him

Colchester 0-1 Newport

A pub team from Barrow-upon-Humber would give us a scare wouldn’t they? Utter garbage.

JT 'Town lack pace in midfield'. We lack pace all over, as per the Wrexham game.

Colchester and Forest Green both losing. :)

Colchester losing - best hope we can stay up and sign on a new team

Colchester 1 down

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

This team is his now and clearly worse than hursts . So easy to beat and he’s responsible for it . Should’ve gone after the Donny game . We’re soft as shi.t and he’s in charge.

I agree. He stands constantly bellowing on the touchline every week and it achieves nothing. It can’t help the players, who look, almost to a man, to be completely inept and unresponsive. Imagine being cr*p at your job and having your boss endlessly yelling at you. Just a sh*tshow since he’s been here, barring the odd scratchy result. He absolutely should’ve gone after Doncaster.

There has to be changes because we are absolutely excrement in the attacking third.

Once against we rely on other results 👎👎

Kind of wish I went to weston super mere v taunton now. This is awful

This lot looks like the side that got relegated

Quoted from LH

A pub team from Barrow-upon-Humber would give us a scare wouldn’t they? Utter garbage.

HT  Scunthorpe 0-0 King's Lynn

Quoted from GibMariner

Once against we rely on other results 👎👎

Spoke to soon Sutton FFS

Sutton winning

Oh dear ! Sutton on a roll
Town are not

Pathetic

Sutton winning

FFS that was poor

Once again we look like a relegated side

Dear Dave

What exactly is your game plan, because it appears we have none.

This is completely male masturbation. Most of our first touches today have been so bad that the second touch has been a tackle. There's just a fundamental lack of footballing ability throughout this squad which is getting so badly exposed I'm seriously worried we've not got enough of a cushion to survive.

See all the Artell ouf brigade are having a feast!!..2 games ago we beat MKD with grit n determination, what I can't understand is why he's gone back to Artell ball when we know it puts pressure on a back line that struggles with it.
We are truly excrement in the final third, midfield is a joke, Hume has less pace than a snail with broken legs, abd Clifton is too far up the pitch giving Mullarkey no cover.
I'm not sure I want to blame Artell but we do look vulnerable again, something I thought we'd plugged after the Donny game..

Slowly getting closer

That was such a hard watch !! Just terrible I mean no one can pass the ball 5 yards or control a football .. horrendous players some of these

Dogshit defending. We don't look fit either, few blowing out of their arses after 35 minutes.
Horrific touches from Rodgers and Thompson for the goals.

I'd like to see Tharme and Thompson have a race, they run like they're towing caravans

I'm not gonna spout the artell out rubbish but looks like we've gone backwards again which is worrying.

We look absolutely excrement.

Not much to add. Some awful touches out there. Of course Sutton are fúcking winning, I bet that farcical penalty is what relegates us.

Is that one shot on target?  Got to be more incisive.  We don't cross fast enough but not enough bodies in the box to get a touch or slide in. And, we don't shoot. We have nobody that can beat a defender one on one.  need both Vernam and Rose on.

Thank god thats over. That was a urine poor 45mins.

Barrow haven't even really got out of second gear all game.

They've had some luck in front of goal (something we rarely get or create for ourselves) an awkward clearance lands to the man in white not one of the two in red and its a simple tap in after the pass and we block a shot and it lands right in the feet of another white excrement for another simple tap in.

Our strikers not even feeding off scraps, midfield once again slow, unimpressive and soft and our back 5 are all over the place. I reaply feel for the fans who have gone today.

Dreadful first touch , dreadful passing , dreadfully woeful in the final 3rd . Even worse in defence. This sides fight has gone again at just the wrong time too

Flat footed...no forward thinking players....half of them can't even control a ball properly....Barrow having to do next to nothing to score or cut through us when we gift them the ball back.
Absolutely no understanding between any of the players.

Massive half-time decisions and talk and massive next goal.

Quoted from Grimsby Is Not In Yorkshire

Dear Dave

What exactly is your game plan, because it appears we have none.

Not sure Artell can be to blame for professional footballers being absolutely incapable of passing to a teammate.

It’s been a very long time since all 11 players were absolutely dogshit, but to a man they’ve all been flipping embarrassing.

Quoted from Mayaman

Is that one shot on target?  Got to be more incisive.  We don't cross fast enough but not enough bodies in the box to get a touch or slide in. And, we don't shoot. We have nobody that can beat a defender one on one.  need both Vernam and Rose on.

Yep, exactly this. Every time their left winger gets the ball he rinses Clifton and Mullarkey for pace and actually has a threat. Up the other end when we have the ball we just play ponderous slow passes between Clifton, Green and Mullarkey which their defence comfortably sits behind and easily clear when a town player inevitably either takes a bad touch or makes a poor pass. By no means are Barrow anything special but we have to get some wingers on rather than just hoping Wilson or Obikwu create something out of the non existent service they're recieving.

We seriously lack pace, desire, and fight, can't control it or pass the ball, apart from that........

Quoted from moosey_club

Flat footed...no forward thinking players....half of them can't even control a ball properly....Barrow having to do next to nothing to score or cut through us when we gift them the ball back.
Absolutely no understanding between any of the players.

Massive half-time decisions and talk and massive next goal.

"can't even control a ball properly"
My mate goes on about this at every game, it drives him fukin nuts.
These blokes get paid good money to do a job most of us would love to do and they can't even control a football which is a basic of the game.

No chance would I be risking Rose or Vernam in this in a game that we’ve lost.

20 years of largely sh1teness summed up in this 45 minutes. Different managers, different owners -  nothings changed. When I see players that can't do even the basics of the game it makes you want to give up. Can't see it ever changing now.

I’m flipping soaked and sat in a summer fete stand on my flipping birthday. Wood and Obikwu awful, probs need to sacrifice Green for Holohan and the other two for Vernham and Rose. Not looking like it will happen at HT as all three are still kicking in out there.
They have 3 or 4 class players and it shows.

Quoted from Teestogreen

Colchester losing - best hope we can stay up and sign on a new team

And hopefully a new manager as well as a new head of recruitment.

Quoted from davmariner

No chance would I be risking Rose or Vernam in this in a game that we’ve lost.

The pitch is dreadful and cutting up massively, it's exactly the type of surface you wouldn't want to risk a half fit player on. That being said I don't think we've lost yet, we've gifted them two goals and been allowed to have a lot of possession. It's a shame Eisa isn't on the bench, I'd definitely have chucked him on at half time in these circumstances.

Most possession (again) at 58% but doing nothing with it.  Opposing teams don’t need to do much to score with less time on the ball.  Sutton scoring on HT continues their good recent form.  Come on Salford.


(Hunt and Amos back in York team.  The Shop and Mclaughlin come into the team.  Chesterfield score early).

Why have we made no changes. We need Rose and Vernam . Problem for Wood and Green

If Paul Hurst had still been in charge - Town would not have been close to relegation.
That decision is brinksmanship by owners that don’t understand manager/ player relationships.

Hope we score 3 more than Barrow in the second half.
UTM

What is with our first touches today? Bizarrely bad

Can I switch it off yet?

Quoted from arryarryarry

And hopefully a new manager as well as a new head of recruitment.

I was including the management as part of the team - for clarity

That was a good little move. Shows what we can do when we string a few passes together quickly.

Salford 1-1 Sutton

Should have been a red for that awful challenge on Obikwu.

Tamworth 1-0 Bishop's Stortford

Quoted from davmariner

Should have been a red for that awful challenge on Obikwu.

Not red. But 100% a card

Looks to me like DA thinking damage limitation, and start Rose and Vernam on Monday…, puts a lot of eggs in one basket, especially big home crowd etc.

FFS make some changes and at least go down fighting

flipping change something for christ sake


Amazing isnt it the stick Hurst got for not making changes

Get wood off, get Vernam on

We have passed the ball to them so many times  :-/

Haven't seen a single proper committed tackle

We look like we’re going through the motions and just hoping for something to happen without us trying to make it happen

There is a silver lining to this cloud.  Artell can't continue banging on about unbeaten away from home since he took charge.

Obikwu looks like a Sunday League player this afternoon. Get him hooked

Sutton winning

Quoted from Chrisblor

Obikwu looks like a Sunday League player this afternoon. Get him hooked

He just runs into players.

Nasty tackle that

Just awful this.

I'm gonna put this out there, but we need a complete clear out, Pearson, Davis, D.Moore, all the old guard need to go.

Again, we have 2 defensive coaches and an ex defender as a manager and our defending is laughable at best.

There's a cultural hangover of failure that won't go unless we move those involved out..

Quoted from Hagrid

Nasty tackle that

Yep, close to “orange”

That’s unlucky

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

I'm gonna put this out there, but we need a complete clear out, Pearson, Davis, D.Moore, all the old guard need to go.

Again, we have 2 defensive coaches and an ex defender as a manager and our defending is laughable at best.

There's a cultural hangover of failure that won't go unless we move those involved out..

You’ve started early.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

I'm gonna put this out there, but we need a complete clear out, Pearson, Davis, D.Moore, all the old guard need to go.

Again, we have 2 defensive coaches and an ex defender as a manager and our defending is laughable at best.

There's a cultural hangover of failure that won't go unless we move those involved out..

"A cultural hangover of failure"

We got to the FA cup quarter final last season - not sure how that's "failure"?

Why are we letting Green take free kicks on the edge of the area

Quoted from Chrisblor

Why are we letting Green take free kicks on the edge of the area

I think that sums us up doesnt it

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

I'm gonna put this out there, but we need a complete clear out, Pearson, Davis, D.Moore, all the old guard need to go.

You missed the fans out 😉😉

That's absolutely flipping disgusting from Barrow

Quoted from MaccasBoots

"A cultural hangover of failure"

We got to the FA cup quarter final last season - not sure how that's "failure"?

You are talking of one success story, our promotions out the Nl another, but in the last 22 years this club has inherently failed.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Why are we letting Green take free kicks on the edge of the area

He used to play for Pete Wild...we were hoping for the old player curse .....


That's how desperate we are

Quoted from MaccasBoots

"A cultural hangover of failure"

We got to the FA cup quarter final last season - not sure how that's "failure"?

We didn’t win the cup did we? 🤷‍♂️

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

You are talking of one success story, our promotions out the Nl another, but in the last 22 years this club has inherently failed.

And Pearson and Davies were here for most of that were they?

Quoted from Hagrid

I think that sums us up doesnt it

He also got the captain's arm band when Thompson went off

Colchester Equalise

Colchester level 😬

The league should be fining Barrow for that shite. You can't be getting away with fans lobbing balls on the pitch to halt the opposition when they're on the attack

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

See all the Artell ouf brigade are having a feast!!..

Literally an hour ago. Now you want to sack Dave Moore as well?

Colchester breathing down our necks again

Quoted from Teestogreen

If Paul Hurst had still been in charge - Town would not have been close to relegation.
That decision is brinksmanship by owners that don’t understand manager/ player relationships.

Hope we score 3 more than Barrow in the second half.
UTM

We were utter shite under Hurst and we’re still utter shite. Because Hurst signed and kept a load of rubbish. We’ve got maybe 5/6 players maximum that are football league standard. And Hurst needs to take a big part of the blame.

That's pathetic again from Cartwright

We don’t have a player who can run past one of their players with the ball ?!! Very strange going to go down to the wire  with this team

Absolutely shite. Unmarked man on the edge of the box to make the finish.

As if anyone thinks Cartwright is any good

Stick Eastwood back in goal

3 0 down, another poor display

No reason to come that far ....but that hasn't cost the game in isolation....

Every single goal has come from our poor decisions. What a time to start throwing in stinkers again.

Any goal difference advantage is evaporating fast. What a mess.

We need to hope it's a low points total for survival as I can't see us getting more than 45 or 46  tbh

Quoted from mariner91

We were utter shite under Hurst and we’re still utter shite. Because Hurst signed and kept a load of rubbish. We’ve got maybe 5/6 players maximum that are football league standard. And Hurst needs to take a big part of the blame.

And 4/5 of them aren't even starters

No one today has played above above a  4 out of 10

Utterly depressing.

I see Bradford have started playing again too.

Green off, so that means a 3rd captain for this game.

Can't watch anymore

Quoted from MaccasBoots

And Pearson and Davies were here for most of that were they?

For a bloody big part of it.
We need to change something in the mantra of the club, for us to start challenging at the right of the table, because whilst being happy "just" staying in the league is a mindset that will never breed success.

I see some of our fans are leaving, a safe journey to all of them.

I make it - after this game - 8 goals in 11 games.
This total football experiment has badly gone wrong.
I’m thinking if Town stay up - it will be LUCK.

Great strike Obikwu!

Malarky beats four men but there's no one in a position to pass to

Obikwu gives us a goal back with a good strike.

Consolation goal from Obikwu. He's done well consodering he's not even had scraps to feed on today

I said last week that the Wrexham game didn’t define our run in . I’m afraid today does . I’d be very surprised if we finish above Sutton and Colchester.

Well done Justin 😀

Left the ground early because I've had enough of that shite and there's about 8 police vans and 50 coppers stood outside the away exit. For about 400 away supporters in a crowd of 4000. Total overkill and utterly bizarre. The police round here must not have much to do.

Nice turn by Obikwu

I think the biggest notice from me is the complete lack of asking and showing from centre mid

Colchester winning

Colchester 2

Overall New Manager hasn’t worked
Will be more luck than anything else if we stay up
Colchester Away Now Massive
Choices
Get Rid?
Get New?
Let Shaun and Ben try and keep us up?
Fed Up with this most weeks
And I’m sure many many are
Safe Trip Home

Worst set of results for some time. Feels nailed on. Nothing ever goes right for us.

It's getting far too close for comfort now. Need a result against Bradford.

Disaster of a day

We wont get relegated …. Class Artell

We’re going down.

Quoted from Wrights35

Disaster of a day

This

Annoyingly that shocking penalty at Sutton is going to come back to haunt us. Would have given us another couple of points and about killed off their hope.

On the other hand our players are so bad that if we do go down then we only have ourselves to blame.

Season is not over - but at this point - I would relieve Dave Artell of his duties immediately - and put Davies and Pearson back on caretaker duties to put us on defence duties to ‘crab’ us the necessary points to stay up -‘with full backing of the owners to do this’.
Town need to stay I this division
UTM

Quoted from It Bites

I said last week that the Wrexham game didn’t define our run in . I’m afraid today does . I’d be very surprised if we finish above Sutton and Colchester.

Barrow have been in a play off position all season, no way were we more likely to get something out this game than Wrexham

I’ve never been for Artell, i wanted him gone weeks ago, I want him gone whether we stay up or go down. It has not worked. We’ve won 4 flipping games since he was appointed.

Quoted from Teestogreen

Season is not over - but at this point - I would relieve Dave Artell of his duties immediately - and put Davies and Pearson back on caretaker duties to put us on defence duties to ‘crab’ us the necessary points to stay up -‘with full backing of the owners to do this’.
Town need to stay I this division
UTM

That won’t happen, I’d even go as far as to say that if we go down 1878 will stick with him as they all think like it’s a “project”.

Quoted from Teestogreen

Season is not over - but at this point - I would relieve Dave Artell of his duties immediately - and put Davies and Pearson back on caretaker duties to put us on defence duties to ‘crab’ us the necessary points to stay up -‘with full backing of the owners to do this’.
Town need to stay I this division
UTM

The owners haven’t got the balderdash to sack him nor do they have the faintest clue what to do. It’s a case of hope for the best and keep every finger crossed.

I’m embarrassed and ashamed as a Grimsby fan.

Oh and he signed half the team that flipping played today as well.

Hurst signed some excrement, Artells signed excrement

The players are spineless- bar Danny Rose- and nowhere near good enough from 1-11.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

That won’t happen, I’d even go as far as to say that if we go down 1878 will stick with him as they all think like it’s a “project”.

They may do this but a lot of us will not be there to watch it. I would give Artell the game against Bradford. Lose and I would sack him and go with the caretakers

Give the last few games to Pearson and Davies probably our only chance and even then I doubt it , we are terrible

Disaster of a season. From Hurst wasting our biggest budget on total shite to the eventual relegation. Shocking

We are in deep trouble. The momentum is with the others. I honestly think it’s us and Forest Green going down.

We truly are the worst team to support in the country.

I think we will scrape 6 or 7 more points together

It's whether that is going to be enough with the form of Sutton /Colchester ?

We have shown we are a 1 ppg team consistently through the season , it's going to the last 2 or 3 games now you would have thought .

From the outside, it looks like the owners are asleep at the wheel.

Quoted from Teestogreen

Season is not over - but at this point - I would relieve Dave Artell of his duties immediately - and put Davies and Pearson back on caretaker duties to put us on defence duties to ‘crab’ us the necessary points to stay up -‘with full backing of the owners to do this’.
Town need to stay I this division
UTM

That will just put them in the firing line.  Nobody could get much out of this team.  A lot of what went wrong today was basic stuff. First touch was terrible, decision making was really poor and we couldn't create any space.

The only way we’ve got a chance is if we stop gifting teams goals and stay in games like we were in that 6 game stretch.

Sutton have 5 games to go. We have 7. Gap is 3

We need 2 wins.

Spaffed a load of money up the wall and saddled ourselves in even more debt and we’re no better off that under that twit Fenty.

We look like we are running in treacle

I expected us to lose today but not to go to yet another level of ineptness. The only hope I can cling onto is Vernam & Rose galvanise us to somehow survive

Thompson at fault for both goals.

Quoted from Mayaman

That will just put them in the firing line.  Nobody could get much out of this team.  A lot of what went wrong today was basic stuff. First touch was terrible, decision making was really poor and we couldn't create any space.

After agree with first touch …. These are pro footballers and not one of them appears to have a decent first touch, let’s not even talk about passing the ball

Quoted from Mayaman

Thompson at fault for both goals.

Rodgers is at fault for the first. 3 year deal😩

Not sure if this was mentioned at the time, but the players looked like they were blowing out their @rses after about 40 minutes. Yes, the pitch was heavy but I’ve seen more pace from Johnny ward getting a round in!

Quoted from davmariner

The owners haven’t got the balderdash to sack him nor do they have the faintest clue what to do. It’s a case of hope for the best and keep every finger crossed.

Sadly I think you are right.

Looking at it objectively, we have just lost against 3rd & 5th in the league. The results around us have gone against us but I’m still convinced 5-6 points still keeps us in this division. The previous 6 games before the past 2 show me we’re more than capable of doing that.

The manner of the defeat today worries me a bit, the sheer lack of footballing ability on show was tough to watch from start to finish. Not going to meltdown over it just yet, Sutton need to be 4 points better than us in 2 less games, that’s still going to be some run of form from them and an absolutely disastrous run of form from us.

Some will spend the evening revelling in it as a chance to hammer Artell again, but I’m not sure he can do much about the things we saw on show today.

Quoted from bedders78

Barrow have been in a play off position all season, no way were we more likely to get something out this game than Wrexham

It’s the body language mate

They are all at fault for all 3 goals. We have a complete lack of skill in this team without Vernam (who will no doubt be injured again in the next couple of games). Why is our centre half able to dribble better than all our attacking players that started today!  It's just a complete poo show nearly every week. ??)

So putting Pearson and Davies in charge will give our midfield legs and make them pass it to a team mate? People will be calling for Hunt next. Klopp couldn't get a tune out of these players, Vernam looked lively when he came on, keep him fit (unlikely) for the rest of the season and that could make a difference

Quoted from pontoonlew

Looking at it objectively, we have just lost against 3rd & 5th in the league. The results around us have gone against us but I’m still convinced 5-6 points still keeps us in this division. The previous 6 games before the past 2 show me we’re more than capable of doing that.

The manner of the defeat today worries me a bit, the sheer lack of footballing ability on show was tough to watch from start to finish. Not going to meltdown over it just yet, Sutton need to be 4 points better than us in 2 less games, that’s still going to be some run of form from them and an absolutely disastrous run of form from us.

Some will spend the evening revelling in it as a chance to hammer Artell again, but I’m not sure he can do much about the things we saw on show today.

I agree that we should probably still retain League status but your last sentence bothers me. He’s been managing us for four months, if he can’t do much then who can? He’s the manager, he picks the team, he made 5 signings in January.

Mon is a must win game. We should have about our strongest team.

Even Lincoln are in the playoffs.

( 4 ex Town players help York to safety beating Chesterfield in record crowd).

And what are the newish owners going to do........Find us some extra tasty gurkings to go with the scotch eggs .. Cos thats about their limit

I can't see us winning again this season so 3 or 4 draws is all we can expect that gives us 43 points at most .

Colchester if they best us will finish above us.

Forest Green have a horrific run in so can't see them staying up.

Sutton have been doing well lately but also have a very hard run in and fewer games left than the rest of us so it will be very very tight.

Looking at the final table I hoping for us to stay up Just.

Forest Green bottom, Sutton on 42 points going down as well.

We surviving by one point .

We must never ever find ourselves in this position again.

Sort it Jason and Andrew start again next season with a decent manager sorry Dave you have got to go.

Give the new man the tools to do the job and we might win a few games in the future.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I agree that we should probably still retain League status but your last sentence bothers me. He’s been managing us for four months, if he can’t do much then who can? He’s the manager, he picks the team, he made 5 signings in January.

100! flipping. Percent

He’s the manager. What changes has he implemented? I honestly feel we’ve got worse. I dont “ revel’ in us losing. But this appointment has just not worked. It happens.

Quoted from drew peacock

So putting Pearson and Davies in charge will give our midfield legs and make them pass it to a team mate? People will be calling for Hunt next. Klopp couldn't get a tune out of these players, Vernam looked lively when he came on, keep him fit (unlikely) for the rest of the season and that could make a difference

Well you never know. It might spark something. Wasn't
expecting anything today but I'd definitely get rid if we get spanked by Bradford. TBH I would have sacked Artell weeks ago.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I agree that we should probably still retain League status but your last sentence bothers me. He’s been managing us for four months, if he can’t do much then who can? He’s the manager, he picks the team, he made 5 signings in January.

But during the 6 game unbeaten run the consensus was all those players had improved, now after 2 games those players are all excrement again along with the manager? I don’t buy it, people are seemingly desperate to rip them to bits at the first opportunity.

I just don’t see a team that comes out with any belief of any determination. That’s down to the management. Come on 1878 , admit your appointment of DA has been a mistake and swallow your pride and get rid of this clown at thd end of the season regardless of the cost . We’ll probably just scrape home but if we’ve  got any hope for next year he’s not the answer

Quoted from Hagrid

100! flipping. Percent

He’s the manager. What changes has he implemented? I honestly feel we’ve got worse. I dont “ revel’ in us losing. But this appointment has just not worked. It happens.

Well at the very least he won't be able to say that we have only lost one away game since he has been here.

Sick of saying it but you will always struggle to win, or even compete in, matches without a midfield and we just haven’t got one decent midfield player. In reality today Barrow created next to nothing but scored three goals every one from an individual error other than that we were never under great pressure. Whitfield was nippy and caused some problems but it’s not like they created and missed a bucket full of chances so we basically have to play matches without making a single error at the back otherwise it’s defeat.

Problem is how do we get enough momentum going forwards to create and score goals? As.we discussed after the Wrexham game the best option might be to recall Smith, put Clifton back in midfield with Andrews and Thompson and hope that the fact HC can run about will make some positive impact on our ability going forwards.

As for Artell nothing will change until the end of the season so not worth any lengthy debate but I have a terrible feeling that today’s stats will indicate we had more possession, territorial advantage, made more passes etc. and this alone will keep management and owners happy until Bradford arrive.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Not sure if this was mentioned at the time, but the players looked like they were blowing out their @rses after about 40 minutes. Yes, the pitch was heavy but I’ve seen more pace from Johnny ward getting a round in!

Town struggle week to week with fitness and with another game on Monday - how long before they are blowing out their @rses v Bradford. People say Town need 5,6,7 however many points. My glass is half empty but I can't see where the next point is coming from let alone the 5,6,7.

If we lose again Monday without an improved performance how can DA stay?
Although we’ve been here B4 quite recently
Please Just Win on Monday
Come on Town!!

Quoted from RobinHoodMariner

I expected us to lose today but not to go to yet another level of ineptness. The only hope I can cling onto is Vernam & Rose galvanise us to somehow survive

Vernam will play 1 or 2 more games and disappear on sick leave for 6 months again, its criminal Hurst was allowed to spend money on a transfer for him

Quoted from sydney

If we lose again Monday without an improved performance how can DA stay?
Although we’ve been here B4 quite recently
Please Just Win on Monday
Come on Town!!

It’s too late to sack him and hope for an improvement IMO. He should have gone after Donny. Let’s not forget he only changed approach because he was forced into it.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I agree that we should probably still retain League status but your last sentence bothers me. He’s been managing us for four months, if he can’t do much then who can? He’s the manager, he picks the team, he made 5 signings in January.

Hurst made 12 signings and had 24 games and relegated in to last spot. So it could be worse.

Quoted from pontoonlew

But during the 6 game unbeaten run the consensus was all those players had improved, now after 2 games those players are all excrement again along with the manager? I don’t buy it, people are seemingly desperate to rip them to bits at the first opportunity.

Don't include me in that, I've been wanting him gone for weeks despite a few decent results.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Vernam will play 1 or 2 more games and disappear on sick leave for 6 months again, its criminal Hurst was allowed to spend money on a transfer for him

3 year deals and transfer fees for him and Rodgers is enough to get hurst the sack alone

Agreed - these signings were a bit strange - not sure who signed them or wanted to sign them.
Anyway, if Charles Vernam scores the winner against Bradford (nearly) all is forgiven.

Our last four games have been against the teams currently in 3rd, 4th, 5th and 7th. So 4 points from those games is not bad going.  Our fixtures get easier from here on so we can pick up more points.

FGR are now in big trouble, six points behind us with six games left and an awful run in. Colchester are just two points behind us with a game in hand and we have to go there. Staying ahead of them will not be easy especially if they beat us.

So It looks to me that we need to stay ahead of Sutton to stay up. Who thought they would win three on the bounce? Crazy. Plus they have a very winnable game on Monday, home to Swindon. So it is incredibly important that we beat Bradford to maintain the gap.    

After that Sutton play Stockport (H), Harrogate (A), Crawley (H) and MK (A). Pretty tough. They would do well to get more than 6 points from those games. So they could be on for a 42 point total. 45 at best I would say. So I think we need 46 to stay up.

Green was all go, the rest SHOULD go

Quoted from davmariner

It’s too late to sack him and hope for an improvement IMO. He should have gone after Donny. Let’s not forget he only changed approach because he was forced into it.

💯,, having to change his whole philosophy basically lost any credibility he had . 1878 bottled the tough decision after the Donny game . He can come on DN35  and come across as a good bloke but to me this is basically a desperate effort to connect with the fan base . Sorry Dave but we’re not stupid here in GY . We’ve been through so much the last 15 years , no one is going to pull the wool over our eyes mate . We’re damaged goods and know the signs . Take your bolloc.ks somewhere else .

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

💯,, having to change his whole philosophy basically lost any credibility he had . 1878 bottled the tough decision after the Donny game . He can come on DN35  and come across as a good bloke but to me this is basically a desperate effort to connect with the fan base . Sorry Dave but we’re not stupid here in GY . We’ve been through so much the last 15 years , no one is going to pull the wool over our eyes mate . We’re damaged goods and know the signs . Take your bolloc.ks somewhere else .

He's gone from "we definitely won't get relegated" when he came here to "we can fight our way out of relegation" or words to that affect in an interview last week.

Quoted from golfer

Green was all go, the rest SHOULD go

The fact that Kieran Green gets in our starting lineup is exactly why we’re in this mess. Our midfield is woeful and has been all season.

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

💯,, having to change his whole philosophy basically lost any credibility he had . 1878 bottled the tough decision after the Donny game . He can come on DN35  and come across as a good bloke but to me this is basically a desperate effort to connect with the fan base . Sorry Dave but we’re not stupid here in GY . We’ve been through so much the last 15 years , no one is going to pull the wool over our eyes mate . We’re damaged goods and know the signs . Take your bolloc.ks somewhere else .

Maybe going down for a 3rd time and staying for a few years will humble our fans and get their chip of our shoulder but I doubt it. Won't be no Hollywood Jesus figure to bail us our either as the smell of fish and the boarded up buildings aren't as appealing as the villages of Wales full of Scousers who managed to make some money and leave another former fishing docks rotting dump.

The worst thing today is not that we lost, but that we expected to

Quoted from Garth

The worst thing today is not that we lost, but that we expected to

Same as the wrexham game.

What really annoys me is that Barrow as like Wrexham, won the game way before the end of the 1st half and basically took there foot off the gas thinking about the next fixture. We were game managed after the first 45mins - Its bloody embarrassing.

I'm not going to bang on about times past when we were a 2nd tier team but this dross has been served up to us for too long and barring a decent run from slade we have had very little relief from it.

when is this club going to finally get its bottom in gear

A team against individuals with no game plan

Quoted from StacyColdicotts_hairline

Same as the wrexham game.

What really annoys me is that Barrow as like Wrexham, won the game way before the end of the 1st half and basically took there foot off the gas thinking about the next fixture. We were game managed after the first 45mins - Its bloody embarrassing.

I'm not going to bang on about times past when we were a 2nd tier team but this dross has been served up to us for too long and barring a decent run from slade we have had very little relief from it.

when is this club going to finally get its bottom in gear

Something is majorly wrong with the club and has been for the best part of 2 decades - we are regular losers and it's in our DNA now , even the new owners are finding out how difficult it is to turn the ship around as a league club .

2 good football  league seasons  in 20 odd years is dreadful for a club of any standard , nevermind one with a decent heritage in the upper tiers of the English game .

I honestly thought we had bottomed out when we got relegated feom league 1 at Tranmere in the 03/04 season and apart from the mentioned Slade season we have punched well below our weight ; even before there was any sort of real financial disparity between clubs in this division and even now you see team after team , year after year punching above their weight - just look at Horkar Street and Barrow today .

I honestly don't know what the future holds , but when the fans are patronised for having a moan and told to 'back the team ' people need to be mindful that the fans have endured , continued to support and have the right to an opinion ; especially after such a long and painful demise .

I don't blame Artell , he's a very small portion of our recent past and current situation . I'm not even sure I blame the players - we should never have ended up in the position that we have to recruit of such low quality in the main .

I really don't want us to be in the National league again , we don't deserve having to endure anymore .

None of it should be blamed on any one individual, I agree. The decline has been endemic since we left the Championship all those years ago. People blamed it on the EU and thought non existent levelling up would do away with all the problems.In fact, nothing has been levelled up. Our ground is decrepit and they have been trying for 20 years to get a new stadium. The councils have no money to invest in a football stadium, yet a thriving football club brings pride to any area.

Poor recruitment has given us a squad that cannot play together and we seem to lack leaders and fight.
If we get out of this, I will start going to church, because it will be a miracle. Another weekend messed up.

I know our fans can get prickly at times but given that we’ve endured more than two decades of almost entirely shite it is understandable. Other than the two promotion seasons and one solitary cup run (and both of those seasons had long stretches where we were abysmal) some of the better times include failing in the non league play offs and lower mid table obscurity in L2. How desperately sad and pathetic is it that those are the good times?!

Other clubs have had large falls down the leagues as well but I can’t think of any other club who have had such a consistently long and large fall from grace this century. The fact that we’re still one of the best supported teams on the road in the division as well as averaging almost 6500 in a season where we’ve won a magnificent 8 games is absolutely astonishing. Other clubs’ fans would have given up by now. For all their good attendances currently look at Lincoln’s fan base. They went down one division and deserted them almost immediately. Couldn’t fill our away end for years and were getting sub 2000 attendances at home. Imagine how few would have stuck by them if they were three divisions below where they started this century and had had 20 years of consistent shít.

But I do feel like the light is fading somewhat and you can see it in this forum. Posters who have stuck by this club through the darkest of times are becoming increasingly fed up and out of hope. Even if we don’t go down this season, we all know that unless something major changes that we’ll be back down there playing Dorking and Tamworth in a season or two. I honestly don’t know why this club has been so bad for two decades but the fan base deserves so much more.  

We were well beat by a decent Barrow side who in Cole Stockton have a goal machine, can`t understand Grimsby fans knocking Barrow`s ground we have play there plenty of times in the last 20 years if it was about grounds Grimsby wouldn`t have played in the National League, Barrow played the better football and always looked on top we have to be better but can`t see us getting relegated, nothing against Barrow and wish them well for the rest of the season.

Quoted from BAFC72

We were well beat by a decent Barrow side who in Cole Stockton have a goal machine, can`t understand Grimsby fans knocking Barrow`s ground we have play there plenty of times in the last 20 years if it was about grounds Grimsby wouldn`t have played in the National League, Barrow played the better football and always looked on top we have to be better but can`t see us getting relegated, nothing against Barrow and wish them well for the rest of the season.

Mate I don’t know who you’re trying to kid. You’re clearly a Barrow fan. Your username is literally BAFC.

Not a Barrow fan watched the game on ifollow but if you think Barrow were not the better side that`s ok, in fact I live in Nettleham near Lincoln.

Quoted from BAFC72

Not a Barrow fan watched the game on ifollow but if you think Barrow were not the better side that`s ok, in fact I live in Nettleham near Lincoln.

Of course you do. You just happen to have only just joined the forum a few days before we play Barrow, your username is BAFC72 which is the year Barrow went out of the league, you have quite an in depth knowledge of Barrow and little knowledge of Town as you seemed to suggest Rose will cause Barrows defenders problems because they’re slow (Rose is certainly not quick despite his many attributes) and have a detailed knowledge of the Western Lancashire railway system and its disruptions affecting two games involving a team you don’t support, that you supposedly didn’t go to and would have very little reason to have any knowledge of if you lived in Nettleham. Near Lincoln. I too check the railway disruptions on the opposite side of the country for football matches that I won’t be attending.

Quoted from mariner91

I know our fans can get prickly at times but given that we’ve endured more than two decades of almost entirely shite it is understandable. Other than the two promotion seasons and one solitary cup run (and both of those seasons had long stretches where we were abysmal) some of the better times include failing in the non league play offs and lower mid table obscurity in L2. How desperately sad and pathetic is it that those are the good times?!

Other clubs have had large falls down the leagues as well but I can’t think of any other club who have had such a consistently long and large fall from grace this century. The fact that we’re still one of the best supported teams on the road in the division as well as averaging almost 6500 in a season where we’ve won a magnificent 8 games is absolutely astonishing. Other clubs’ fans would have given up by now. For all their good attendances currently look at Lincoln’s fan base. They went down one division and deserted them almost immediately. Couldn’t fill our away end for years and were getting sub 2000 attendances at home. Imagine how few would have stuck by them if they were three divisions below where they started this century and had had 20 years of consistent shít.

But I do feel like the light is fading somewhat and you can see it in this forum. Posters who have stuck by this club through the darkest of times are becoming increasingly fed up and out of hope. Even if we don’t go down this season, we all know that unless something major changes that we’ll be back down there playing Dorking and Tamworth in a season or two. I honestly don’t know why this club has been so bad for two decades but the fan base deserves so much more.  

Barrow have got a good manager, but even so Telford and Stockton and others wouldn’t be there if they didn’t train in Manchester. They are effectively another Greater Manchester side. Stockton came on loan from Burton - an experienced sh!thouse sort of forward that we’ve been crying out for. Obikwu looks a decent lad but just not we need.

Even so moaning about our inability to ever have more than one decent front player at the club is pointless when we are defending like Keystone Cops…all 3 goals today. Frankly I don’t know what to make of that. We are playing teams that are “on the beach” next week, but that is immaterial if shoot ourselves in the foot like the last 2 games. I’m feeling very gloomy about our prospects tonight - and if it goes to the last game, there’s feckin Orsi…

Quoted from Hagrid

Rodgers is at fault for the first. 3 year deal😩

Yes i agree but Thompson was with the runner who got hold of the loose ball.  he was half asleep.

We make plenty of mistakes at the back but it seems virtually every team we play have players who capitalise on them and score. Or is it just that we don’t have a keeper that makes many saves?

We seem to need umpteen chances to score a goal. The conclusion is that we have a poor keeper, a poor defence, and poor forwards. May as well admit we have poor midfielders too.

So it’s no great mystery why we are where we are. We need  a complete overhaul of the coaching team and playing squad.