Subs  Eastwood, Green, Obikwu, Vernam, Andrews, Pyke, Mullarkey

Thought Vernam might have started today.

Quoted from Spurn boy

Thought Vernam might have started today.

Same

Yeah, Vernam has added momentum and pace going forward in all his minutes since his return from injury.

Is RH commentary dodgy?  

Quoted from Mayaman

Is RH commentary dodgy?  

It has been taken over by Daleks

Quoted from Mayaman

Is RH commentary dodgy?  

Yep. very bad. The Stockport commentary seems ok though, so it looks like a RH problem

Every week now there's an issue with MarinersTV...

Having this appalling commentary over the Peter Handyside clap is quite frankly embarrassing.

Has anybody lost the picture for the game

Well done Radio Humberside for ruining the minutes applause for Peter

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Every week now there's an issue with MarinersTV...

Yeah.  It was more acceptable when this all started. How can I listen to Stockport and watch Mariners TV?

I'd rather watch with no commentary

Got picture but dalek commentary like everyone else. It’s not remotely annoying!

Really drunk off with RH after that. What a bunch of amateurs.

The commentary ain't even our game either, it's the Scunny game... no wonder it sounds like something from a different universe

They need to just give up on the commentary

A couple of nice defence splitting passes from Denver.

Think we’ve got Stockport commentary, which is somewhat better.

Stockport commentary now. I'd take that over the beeps and boops humberside were offering

Damn!!

So we need a new goalkeeper.

What is Cartwright doing there!!

FFS!

Bryn Morris scores early for Newport n Sutton already 1 down.

What an absolute feck up by Cartwright

Ffs

You absolute buffoon Cartwright! 😡

Playing out ?🙄

Handing the league leaders a goal start! Does not bode well! :(

Hands up all those in favour of playing it out from the back.

Playing out from the back like that will only ever see us concede far more than we’d score from it. It’s the same madness from when we went down under Holloway.

Plenty of Twits that can be nominated this week already. Now, they're showboating.

Still no picture for me, judging by the above posts I should be grateful

Quoted from Badger57

You absolute buffoon Cartwright! 😡

Probably under orders to do that.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Hands up all those in favour of playing it out from the back.

It's great when you have technical and talented players, of which we have neither.

At least fgr and sutton are both losing

Trying to do it again are we? FFS! 😡

I am sure the commentator said that there were a few grumbles from the Hull fans.

We are absolutely dog excrement. This set up is awful, Artell has got it all wrong.

Oh intercourse off Town.

Embarrassing

Nice of Clifton to just let him boot the ball straight to there lad through on goal

Pathetic. Another gift

intercourse off Town.
Fast a flipping sleep.
male masturbators.

Could be in for another 6-1 with defending like this.

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Players standing around instead of getting back to defend the free kick, they just cut through the whole team. Clifton too busy having a tantrum and walking towards their goal instead of getting back.

Love this new way conceding goals . At least DA is bringing us into the 21st century.

Going down the way they are throwing these goals away!
Have they not trained this week or learnt anything from the manager.

We're in for a huge defeat here.

Go on  - minus 50
Sad to see the club like this 🙁

Thank god he's offside. That would have been an embarrassing 3rd goal

Off to bed when we are 4 - 0 down.

This Chap Will not keep us up
Come on Town!!

Just shocking can't do basics you learn at junior school

Get rid of this clown DA

It's tactical. give them a 2 goal start and then hit them 3 times when they aren't expecting it. FFS

Quoted from Plankton

We're in for a huge defeat here.

Probably learnt too much from the manager.

Dammit offside

Going to be one of these days

Quoted from Ford Cortina

Going down the way they are throwing these goals away!
Have they not trained this week or learnt anything from the manager.

You can't blame DA for those two goals.  Individual error for the first, and defenders fast asleep for the second.

I prefer Saturdays in the summer months

Quoted from 123614

You can't blame DA for those two goals.  Individual error for the first, and defenders fast asleep for the second.

You could literally argue that for every single goal conceded though. At what point does it become the manager’s fault? As this is a pattern of events.

This is not what i expected  or we needed

Quoted from 123614

You can't blame DA for those two goals.  Individual error for the first, and defenders fast asleep for the second.

The way we are playing is through instruction from DA and it is not working.

That must have been close.  See what happens when you run at them.  We all look nervous though.  Arthur doing well when he gets it.

Eisa should not be on the pitch whilst Vernam is fit...

Stockport commentary say it all, town are playing how they've been instructed by Artell.

3rd bottom now. Good job the two below us are losing also.

Quoted from Plankton

Stockport commentary say it all, town are playing how they've been instructed by Artell.

Not sure the manager instructs his players to pass to the opposition

We're dammed if we do and dammed if we don't with playing out the back.

We don't have players with enough skill or inteligence to play out the back.

Alternatively, we don't have the speed or size to play more of a long ball game either. Whilst Rose puts himself about and wins a fair amount he's very alone in that.

Quoted from davmariner

You could literally argue that for every single goal conceded though. At what point does it become the manager’s fault? As this is a pattern of events.

So it's his fault that Cartwright kicked the ball straight to a Stockport player, did DA tell him to do that?

Quoted from 123614

You can't blame DA for those two goals.  Individual error for the first, and defenders fast asleep for the second.

Oh yes you can . It’s his tactics and style he’s trying to implement on a bunch of L2 players. He’s a fooking liability

Turned it off, pathetic clearance from Eisa and then no attempt to even get out to stop the cross followed by schoolboy marking..

3-0 we look tragic, this is a relegated team

flipping UNMARKED! 3 OF THEM ALL STOOD IN A flipping LINE AND 3 OF OURS JUST STOOD IN A CLUMP IN FRONT AND 4 BEHIND STOOD IN A CLUMP.
flipping PATHETIC!

Quoted from MarinerMal

Not sure the manager instructs his players to pass to the opposition

No but he wants them to play it out from the back  and the players just dont like it or cannot do it.. A good old boot up the pitch would have been the better option

Absolute shite. Everyone knows Sarcevic is the danger.  Need to get close to him

If it gets to 6 then Artell has to go.

Getting relegated, get this manager out now he has not got a clue gone backwards worse then ever!! change now this lot are going down for sure and everyone knows it unless big changes are made

Wouldn’t be surprised if Mama Cass scored

Ffs   any of the crowd leaving yet ?

All I can say is FFS!!!!!

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

Oh yes you can . It’s his tactics and style he’s trying to implement on a bunch of L2 players. He’s a fooking liability

It doesn't matter what the tactics are, when a player kicks the ball straight to an opposition player, or when the players switch off for a quickly taken free kick.  It's the same tactics we played last week, didn't see many complaining after that match.

He’s got to go . What a complete fook up by the owners

Free header.  Even the commentator is winding us up Grimsby 3 , County 0 he said. Get Eisa off please.

This game is over. What he have to do is try and avoid a cricket score and hope to pick up points in the next two games.

The owners have to take some responsibility for this. They were gifted a promoted team with the best will and buy in from the fans in 20 years and this is what they do with it.

Quoted from denni266

Ffs   any of the crowd leaving yet ?

Looks like it

Quoted from arryarryarry

If it gets to 6 then Artell has to go.

BOO GET RID OF THE MANAGER AGAIN! THAT WILL SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS BOO! GET RID OF MORE MANAGERS! BOOOO!

Yeah great, more instability, more falling down the leagues. Nobody learned anything from the initial decline of the club, just demanding more manager changes and a revolving door of players in and out. But sure BOO WE WANT NEW THINGS GIVE US A NEW MANAGER BOOO.

Quoted from denni266

Ffs   any of the crowd leaving yet ?

As soon as tge 3rd went in the Ponny started emptying

I’m mainly drunk off we got some false hope last week.

I’m not one to normal complain or criticise until after I’ve thought things through but,,,,,,,
THIS IS flipping excrement !!!!!!!!

We’re worse than we were under Hurst and genuinely in danger of getting relegated again. Can’t see Artell going anywhere but this is embarrassing

Can we just accept this has been a complete intercourse up and cut our losses.

Were fuckin embarrassing , the whipping boys and laughing stock of league 2.

As the owners they have to look at this and quickly .

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

He’s got to go . What a complete fook up by the owners

Really, silly suggestion.

I didn’t expect much from this game but effort would have been nice. The next 2 games are make or break for us.

What about the two new fullbacks? Are they to blame for any of the goals?

Always the problem when hiring a manager of this 'style' needed someone to come in and shore us up and just make us solid, not get relegated like the position we was in. Games already f*cked not even half time it's almost comical.. I just give up now.

Hopefully Forest Green and Sutton are just as sh!t as us going into the end of the season as it looks like Salford have bucked their ideas up.

Quoted from RonMariner

What about the two new fullbacks? Are they to blame for any of the goals?

No but Rodgers is all over the place again

We’re going down under Artell, we’re getting tanked at home every week. The question is will the owners swallow their mistake and cut their losses or let their pride take us down.

How the intercourse is Harvey price still getting a game at centre back

Quoted from out of town

We’re worse than we were under Hurst and genuinely in danger of getting relegated again. Can’t see Artell going anywhere but this is embarrassing

Agree with all the points made.

Need someone in to just keep us up
Regardless of style of play

Quoted from 123614

Really, silly suggestion.

Can you provide proof or evidence based on his results since he was appointed that this is a silly suggestion?

If this carries on like this were going down .

It reminds me of the excrement slade served up in his second spell here .

A lot of these problems started long before DA became the manager. Too many thicko players and players with no interest in the game once we start losing. Depressing on a day we honoured the memory of Peter Handyside that twerps like Maher and Rodgers are running around like Bambi on ice.

Quoted from golfer

It's tactical. give them a 2 goal start and then hit them 3 times when they aren't expecting it. FFS

It's tactical. Give them a 3 goal start and then hit them 4 times when they aren't expecting it. FFS

5 against notts county, 6 against Walsall. At what point does it become damage limitation?

The Stockport commentary hit the nail on the head there.

Boys against men.

Doncaster winning

Get Rodgers and Eisa off, both are appalling

FGR & Sutton are Losing, Donny winning & Colchester is drawing. It's looking tough at the bottom

Quoted from denni266

Doncaster winning

sodomist

We are fooking dire. Everyone of their defenders is better on the ball than our entire team.

Holohan and Clifton in midfield are out of their depth.

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

Can you provide proof or evidence based on his results since he was appointed that this is a silly suggestion?

Can you provide proof or evidence based on results that a new manager has ever instantly improved a situation when the club is in decline? How about evidence that a massive turnover in managers and players has every worked out despite the fact you keep calling for people to lose their jobs?

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

Can you provide proof or evidence based on his results since he was appointed that this is a silly suggestion?

Anyone who says a manager should be sacked after just over 2 months, in my opinion is making a silly suggestion.

Quoted from 123614

Anyone who says a manager should be sacked after just over 2 months, in my opinion is making a silly suggestion.

Worked for Barrow when they got rid of Jolley a few years back. They realised the made a mistake and corrected it.

This isn't a team.

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Get Rodgers and Eisa off, both are appalling

and Maher

That was a blue card if I 've ever seen one.

Sometimes it just doesn't work.  This is one of them situations by the look of it.

We concede average 4 goals a game at home, we have one win in 10. we look absolutely embarrassing , All over the place.

Absolute dross  

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Get Rodgers and Eisa off, both are appalling

I wonder why Managers at his verious clubs keep playing the bloke(Rodgers) and never see why Hurst thought he would be an upgrade on what we had because as far as I've seen he's the worst CB we have had for Donkeys years and that's saying something.

I think this is the longest first half I've experienced in years. Feels like an eternity.

Got to hand it to the commentator.  He has real empathy in his voice for us.

We never have anyone anywhere near Danny Rose, it's a problem every week so even if he does win a flick on it's going to nobody.

Also anyone just get the feeling the team spirit ain't anywere near what we had last year, yes I know hurst was not producing results but at least the team had balls .

These fvckers are spineless.

Bit like comparing a Rolls Royce and a mini that firing on half a cylinder.

You can't be down at the bottom and keep trying to play like this

That's the big concern I have. It's the wrong time to be introducing this.

.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Also anyone just get the feeling the team spirit ain't anywere near what we had last year, yes I know hurst was not producing results but at least the team had balls .

These fvckers are spineless.

Having David Brent as your manager can’t help much either

Quoted from Kris2

Can you provide proof or evidence based on results that a new manager has ever instantly improved a situation when the club is in decline? How about evidence that a massive turnover in managers and players has every worked out despite the fact you keep calling for people to lose their jobs?

I think it’s safe to say it’s really not working.

County are better than us in every department, it’s not for the want of trying by Grimsby but we are just not good enough.

Stockport commentary has been quite heart warming, they've absolutely excrement on us and they're trying to give reasons why this is happening

It’s almost like we were foolhardy for bashing Scunthorpe for 428 pages.

Maher and Rodgers lol, state of them ;D

Playing like this, we deserve to be relegated

Quoted from 123614

Anyone who says a manager should be sacked after just over 2 months, in my opinion is making a silly suggestion.

You sir, are an idiot

Shame the new CB got injured in his first match.

Let’s hope to god that he is back soon because Rodgers has been a liability for months.

‘The most comical defending I’ve seen all season’

‘I’d fancy myself against the centre halves’

Stockport commentary

Quoted from 123614

Anyone who says a manager should be sacked after just over 2 months, in my opinion is making a silly suggestion.

I’d rather gamble on sacking a man who’s walked in and attempted to implement a style of play based on thinking he’s a lower league Pep and failed spectacularly.

But you keep supporting him when we have to win the last game of the season to avoid relegation again.

Quoted from cmackenzie4

County are better than us in every department, it’s not for the want of trying by Grimsby but we just not good enough.

I wonder how many in their team are players we had approached but didn't sign because the board wouldn't put up the money or they found a better deal last minute. Meanwhile JS complaining about players putting their asking prices up knowing we made some cup money.

Quoted from out of town

‘The most comical defending I’ve seen all season’

‘I’d fancy myself against the centre halves’

Stockport commentary

If you don't laugh you'd cry.

I had sympathy for artell after a few of our defeats as I could see he wants to do well but this is unforgivable.

Him and them spineless individuals wearing my clubs shirt deserve everything they get after this.

I'm embarrassed,  the commentary just said we are the worst team they've seen, and he fancies a goal against our centre halves. I'm just fuming at the way they have not even give it a go, absolute pansies

Stockport commentators fancy themselves against our lot. This is unforgivable levels of apathy from the lads.

Fenty must be loving this unfortunately.

The whistle went  for HT and honestly I've never seen a bunch of players run off the pitch individually as quick as that , they don't want to be out there.

This team ain't got the minerals for a fight, they ain't got the passion and they certainly don't deserve to be wearing the town badge on their chest. Pathetic

As for the clown in the dugout well if you resigned tonight you would make me very happy.

Rodgers is a very bad defender. Terrible on the ball, regularly just spraying it out the pitch. But he’s also really bad defensively. I have never known a centre back be so bad at heading. He’s weak and misjudges most long balls. Maher isn’t as bad but still isn’t good.

But equally you can’t play through midfield with Clifton and Holohan in there. Neither good on the ball and if you watch closely Holohan is static, on his toes and barely ever showing for it or in a good position. Very easy game for their number 8 marking him.

We’re shite.

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

I’d rather gamble on sacking a man who’s walked in and attempted to implement a style of play based on thinking he’s a lower league Pep and failed spectacularly.

But you keep supporting him when we have to win the last game of the season to avoid relegation again.

What happens if we replace him and still go down anyway? What if the manager who replaces him is somebody you hate for whatever reason? You'll still whine and complain like with Hurst, who you violently and aggressively protested when rumours swirled around he was in talks for the job and heavily criticised him at any opportunity.

I guess teaching football to these losers isn't working so well but maybe the penny will drop eventually. I'm not sure why you think anybody else will get a tune out of these players after the initial boost of a new man in charge wakes them up for a couple of games. I say let DA finish the job he started and hope that teams are still worse than us come the end of the season. You need to move past 1989 and learn that the good years are over, we have yet to really establish ourselves as a L2 club again and not one treading water.

Quoted from promotion plaice

Fenty must be loving this unfortunately.

Fúck him, hope his turtle neck strangles him.

Quoted from Southwark Mariner

Playing like this, we deserve to be relegated

Would you sooner we were at bottom of non league or as we are now. I think with this manager we could be doing a Scunthorpe. Let's see if he alters things in second half.

On the day we remembered one of the classiest defenders to play for Town we serve up and absolute criminal sh1tshow in defending. The guy in charge hasn't a clue in my mind.

So this is what JS & co ment by improving every window. i was slightly in favout of keeping off Artels back,, not now . Get shaun and co back in charge quick

Artell feels like an evil puppet master put in place to oversee our demise back into non league.

"Meh, they are still learning".  That's what he's gonna say.

Today is lunar New Year and it's dull as owt.  Couldn't find owt open so looked forward to this all day.  I didn't expect us to win but I wanted a good game. I would have liked us to show some backbone.  Instead we gift them three goals.  County look better all over the pitch.  They are not even breaking a sweat.  I doubt they would be if they were playing in a tropical summer. They just have more panache and more options when they have the ball.  It's tiring.  DA should start his experiment during the close season.  Now, he should be working on the basics.

1st mistake - sacking Hurst and Doig
2nd mistake - not fully appointing Davies and Pearson after they were doing well collecting points
3rd mistake - appointing the ‘lone’  Dave Artell

The directors seem to have a ‘strange’ mission

UTM

Quoted from Teestogreen

1st mistake - sacking Hurst and Doig
2nd mistake - not fully appointing Davies and Pearson after they were doing well collecting points
3rd mistake - appointing the ‘lone’  Dave Artell

The directors seem to have a ‘strange’ mission

UTM

This.

Whilst I’m a fan of the board and what they’re doing, I would get rid of Artell now, it’s obviously not working, the players look utterly clueless. intercourse finding someone who aligns with their ‘values’ and get someone in who has a plan B, can get the most of the players we have and someone who’ll make sure the soft tw@TS don’t leave their b0llocks behind in the changing room

Any sign of that B corp?

Quoted from Dave Gilberts Left Peg

You sir, are an idiot

And you need to grow up.

Arthur dragged again after Eisa does nothing all half but shank a shot for a throw in...

Green, Andrews, Vernam on

Thompson,  Gnahoua and Holohan? Off

Green andrews and vernam on

Thank God Vernam is on.  Thompson didn't last long, did he?  Great first game and shown nothing today.

Instead of changing the system he's changed the players. I can definitely see Andrews changing this game round - FFS

Sacking Hurst was not a mistake and nether was not appointing two massively inexperienced coaches.

Unfortunately appointing Artell does look like it might be a humdinger...

Quoted from Teestogreen

1st mistake - sacking Hurst and Doig
2nd mistake - not fully appointing Davies and Pearson after they were doing well collecting points
3rd mistake - appointing the ‘lone’  Dave Artell

The directors seem to have a ‘strange’ mission

UTM

That is some mighty 20/20 hindsight, you've got there

Quoted from Mayaman

Thank God Vernam is on.  Thompson didn't last long, did he?  Great first game and shown nothing today.

Reminds me of when we signed Giles Coke in January…

Stockport commentators mentioning how naive our playing out from the back is. Jesus wept, even they can see it.

Quoted from Teestogreen

1st mistake - sacking Hurst and Doig
2nd mistake - not fully appointing Davies and Pearson after they were doing well collecting points
3rd mistake - appointing the ‘lone’  Dave Artell

The directors seem to have a ‘strange’ mission

UTM

1st Mistake - absolutely laughable.

2nd Mistake - Appoint two people who were part of the demise under PH, and who are also working under DH?  Disagree.

3rd Mistake - Your opinion, season isn't over yet.

I left after the 3rd goal, absolutey shite, players dont seem bothered, so why should i !!!

Sutton and FGR both losing thank God.

flipping christ, Andrews gets away with one and then does the same thing 10 seconds later...

Quoted from Plankton

Stockport commentators mentioning how naive our playing out from the back is. Jesus wept, even they can see it.

I think everyone can see it. You need good footballers to play that way successful and we just don’t have them.

Quoted from dicko995

I left after the 3rd goal, absolutey shite, players dont seem bothered, so why should i !!!

Ithink there will ba quite a lot think like that after today

Better football there and ends up with Eisa.  Begging for the overlap.  Hume comes into the picture as long as it takes to pour a pint of Guiness properly.

Quoted from Kris2

Going to be one of these days

Yes getting to be a habit as of late

Charles Vernam with a bit of quality finally

Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooiiirrrrrrrrrraaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

Eisa scored!!!
It wasn't a worldy either for a change either  ;D ;D ;D

Well done Chas!

Expected nothing other than a tonking today. Juries out until 5pm next Saturday for me.

Yes Eisa scores, provided by Vernam. Can this be a comeback???????????????????????????????

50 minutes watching us and These commentators can see that style is absolute madness and yet we still persist

Can we appoint the commentator as our manager. Talks sense

Tranmere equalised

Ohh  we scored

Quoted from HoratiusEberlin

It’s almost like we were foolhardy for bashing Scunthorpe for 428 pages.

I was one of the ones trying to be sympathetic towards them, and I think it’s wise not to gloat over those in a bad situation because it’s a petty crass thing to do and of course you never know when the boot will be on the other foot.

It is not impossible that we might be playing them next season. Not likely, but certainly not impossible the way things are going. I sure hope not though.

We'll need 5+ goals to get a point.

I'd actually change the way we setup in future and sit two infront of the back four, get Green and Thompson alongside each other and put Arthur in the 10 with Chas and Abo either side

Quoted from RonMariner

I was one of the ones trying to be sympathetic towards them, and I think it’s wise not to gloat over those in a bad situation because it’s a petty crass thing to do and of course you never know when the boot will be on the other foot.

It is not impossible that we might be playing them next season. Not likely, but certainly not impossible the way things are going. I sure hope not though.

Never mind, they are losing.

County top of the league and can't sell out an away end... I can't imagine Grimsby not doing the same in their position. Such is life.

Doncaser score again

Quoted from Plankton

County top of the league and can't sell out an away end... I can't imagine Grimsby not doing the same in their position. Such is life.

The real tragedy is that at the moment I can’t imagine us being in their position

Quoted from Plankton

County top of the league and can't sell out an away end... I can't imagine Grimsby not doing the same in their position. Such is life.

Sadly, having a fantastic away following does not compensate for having a poor team. If it did we might actually be near the top for once.

Short corner ffs!

We are the only team I know that can turn attack into defence so effortlessly

We can't break either.

Quoted from denni266

Doncaser score again

I doubt they will be as generous to Tranmere as we were.

Eisa had done him there. Blue card

Booking for Green is harsh. He missed both the player and the ball then

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Booking for Green is harsh. He missed both the and the ball then

Probably for showing some effort

Artell said he's not a shouting man, well I hope he is after this performance at these two clowns at centre half.

Maher ffs

Rodgers helps him out well

Maher and Rogers are possibly the worst centre back pairing ive ever seen

I'd love to see the data of how many times Harvey Rodgers has passed it straight to them or out of play

Quoted from out of town

Maher and Rogers are possibly the worst centre back pairing ive ever seen

They are inspiration for all young footballers who struggle with ability.

Sounds like anybody would be an improvement on Rodgers. Why not try Malarkey there? Could he be any worse?

Quoted from RonMariner

Sounds like anybody would be an improvement on Rodgers. Why not try Malarkey there? Could he be any worse?

Sticking Mighty Mariner there would be an improvement

Better second half to be fair but still playing dangerously.  Too much damage done in the first half.  Not sure why Vernam didn't start. Seems the main threat.

Can’t remember a player going backwards as much as Clifton has this season

Cartwright should be shouting that it's his ball FFS

Quoted from Plankton

Cartwright should be shouting that it's his ball FFS

Straight out of Sunday league

Quoted from out of town

Maher and Rogers are possibly the worst centre back pairing ive ever seen

Deadwood and Hopeless were worse

Listening to the county commentary shows that RH isn't quite as effective. They manage to give a better view of the game and include facts about their players at pace.

Donny winning, FGR & Suton losing and Colchester drawing.

Rodgers passed it straight to a County player... AGAIN

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Rodgers passed it straight to a County player... AGAIN

Rodgers has the best agent in footie

Top of the league and can't bring 900 fans. So incredibly frustrating that we'd take a sell out to every single ground if we were top of the league.

Good to see the highly rated Obikwu get another good run out. Why do we sign these players?

Has the transfer window shut yet, I reckon we could do with a couple of full backs a centre half, a couple of midfielders and another forward.

did anybody get the gate figures

We just can't play it out of the back. We pussyfoot about until we are under pressure then we have to hoof it without any control. Might as well hoof it without the pressure. At least might get some direction on it.

Lose the next two games and Artell will have to go

Maher is conference north at best.

Quoted from DB

did anybody get the gate figures

I think 6732 (879)

Quoted from Yoda

Maher is conference north at best.

And is still (marginally) better than Harvey Price

Quoted from arryarryarry

I think 6732 (879)

That's what I heard, thank you

If we don't win on Tuesday Artell has to go, you can't keep trying to play like this with our junk defence who excrement themselves under any sort of press, and a midfield primarily comprised of players who can't control or pass a ball with any kind of consistency, it's suicidal. If either of the two teams below us figure out how to play football between now and the end of the season we're copulated.

Andrews I think, free kick straight at the Cty sums up how bad we are.

We’re lucky that Stockport went down a couple of gears to game management otherwise this could have been 6/7.

Quoted from Chrisblor

If we don't win on Tuesday Artell has to go, you can't keep trying to play like this with our junk defence who excrement themselves under any sort of press, and a midfield primarily comprised of players who can't control or pass a ball with any kind of consistency, it's suicidal. If either of the two teams below us figure out how to play football between now and the end of the season we're copulated.

Lump it up to Rose to flick on to Okiwu would work better than this. No urgency whatsoever.

Stockport went into game management. Town beaten by the 29th minute. Awful performance, awful tactics, awful management. Not much to take from the game other than that we're going down if the two teams below us get some points.

It's not the fact that we lose but how we lose.

I just can’t see how Artell is going to change this. We’re getting worse and worse. I’m not one for knee-jerk reactions but get rid of him now and roll the dice, otherwise we’re heading back to non league. Completely fed up with this team

I can’t get my head round it. Either Artell is stubbornly telling them they must always play it short even when under pressure or a better option is to go long. Or the players are too thick to know when to deviate from plan A. It’s baffling. I’m not one that likes it long all the time or aimlessly but sometimes it’s the only option.

Thankfully all 3 below us have lost, but Donny won. So we move on to Tuesday with the hope of a better performance and some points ( or a point)

Next two games are crucial. A real indicator of whether we are good enough to stay up.

Play it out from the back - balls it up - and repeat.

Quoted from mariner91

I can’t get my head round it. Either Artell is stubbornly telling them they must always play it short even when under pressure or a better option is to go long. Or the players are too thick to know when to deviate from plan A. It’s baffling. I’m not one that likes it long all the time or aimlessly but sometimes it’s the only option.

He has spoken in previous interviews about some of the players' decision making. Maybe most of them are simply not smart enough to know when to try and play out and when not to.

But should professional players really need to be told this stuff? Like they need to be told to mark forwards in our box, to track back when they lose the ball, and many other basics of the game?

We stroll and wait for passes to reach players.

Other teams run and pass accurately at pace.

It just looks far too casual all round and concentration seems not to be anything they worry about.

Danny Rose must be the most frustrated headless chicken, having to chase  harass and wait for non existent support up front.

Makes for very hard fan viewing, wondering why we look so 2nd best on the ball against most teams.

Mistakes are costing us badly, back passes across the 6 yard line seem ridiculous if we get chased by teams knowing we have a weakness., so change it !!

Today, as good as Stockport played, we gifted them the win !

I never thought I’d say this but after 40 years I’m about done.

I didn’t expect to win today but it’s the way we went about losing this game.

In all my years we’ve never had this level of season ticket sales for the second season running, combined with a generational FA Cup run and this is the best we can offer.

What actually is the point in having multi millionaire owners, who, when given such a groundswell of support can only serve up this utter excrement - it’s  beyond unacceptable

If this is the best we can hope for Stockwood then clear off

Special word for the Stockport fans, top of the league and you bring 800, laughable

Quoted from RonMariner

He has spoken in previous interviews about some of the players' decision making. Maybe most of them are simply not smart enough to know when to try and play out and when not to.

But should professional players really need to be told this stuff? Like they need to be told to mark forwards in our box, to track back when they lose the ball, and many other basics of the game?

How about his own decision making? Or is that infallible. Don’t think so listening to his waffling bollo.cks

I think we need to be realistic.  Very few of us expected us to get anything at all from this game. Stockport are at the top for a reason, but we shouldn't be helping them with kamikaze tactics, goalkeeping and defending should we. We are very,  very lucky that the teams below us keep losing. So let's try to cling on to that. Tuesday is a must win now without doubt  

Quoted from paramariner

I think we need to be realistic.  Very few of us expected us to get anything at all from this game. Stockport are at the top for a reason, but we shouldn't be helping them with kamikaze tactics, goalkeeping and defending should we. We are very,  very lucky that the teams below us keep losing. So let's try to cling on to that. Tuesday is a must win now without doubt  

Realistically, conceding 14 goals in 3 home games is completely unacceptable at any level and unforgivable

Quoted from Quagmire

I never thought I’d say this but after 40 years I’m about done.

I know exactly how you feel. After a 'golden period' from 1980 to 2001 its so depressing to have to have endure season after season of dross. Yes, the two play off final victories were great, but we are talking about the non league after all.

I honestly don't think I will see us back in the Championship in my lifetime and I am at an age now where I tire of this constant disappointment.  

Quoted from RonMariner

I know exactly how you feel. After a 'golden period' from 1980 to 2001 its so depressing to have to have endure season after season of dross. Yes, the two play off final victories were great, but we are talking about the non league after all.

I honestly don't think I will see us back in the Championship in my lifetime and I am at an age now where I tire of this constant disappointment.  

Two decades now of turgid dross can't even manage to be competitive at the very bottom end of the league structure. Just can't get my head around how much money is wasted season after season.

A million for Bennett.
150k for Connell
A million pounds for Bogle.
Half a million for Dembele.
250k for Pollock  
Grist
McAtee
FA cup 5th round
Double record season ticket sales
Conteh

We've had plenty football fortune to be able to sting something competent together at least one in two decades, but no season after season ofvutter dross. How like, how?

Dreadful really

16 goals conceded at home with 1 point from 4 games since NY is hardly going to impress anyone .

Still getting more and more worried , looks like a weak minded relegation fodder type side the more I see , we know we have seen plenty .

Quoted from RonMariner

I know exactly how you feel. After a 'golden period' from 1980 to 2001 its so depressing to have to have endure season after season of dross. Yes, the two play off final victories were great, but we are talking about the non league after all.

I honestly don't think I will see us back in the Championship in my lifetime and I am at an age now where I tire of this constant disappointment.  

Same Ron , seems a long time ago those great years . Didn't appreciate how good it was at the time .

I just thought this time we might actually move forward for a more consistent period of time , but it seems like we are reverting to type again of league 2 strugglers at best.

I've given it until this morning to calm down..we were again completely out thought by a manager with less league experience than our own...
I felt for Danny Rose, he plays with so much passion but he's gets less service than a clapped out ford escort....
Artell got it wrong, again, and I'm also at the point where Shaun P & Ben Davis have to hold to account too, they have been  part n parcel off this shitshow this season, but after thinking Artell was a great appointment I'm of thinking he's a salesman who could sell a freezer to an Eskimo but not show him how to work it!

Quoted from RonMariner

I know exactly how you feel. After a 'golden period' from 1980 to 2001 its so depressing to have to have endure season after season of dross. Yes, the two play off final victories were great, but we are talking about the non league after all.

I honestly don't think I will see us back in the Championship in my lifetime and I am at an age now where I tire of this constant disappointment.  

I'm the same Ron. First game 1979 and instantly hooked. I seem to be just seeing out this season. I've missed quite a few games by being abroad on holiday, working in preference to going on one occasion and doing some Brentford games instead where there is a home fixture clash.

I'm also at an age where I doubt I'll ever see the really good times with Town again. Constant disappointment is the right expression. I don't get excited by new signings and appointments because they invariably underwhelm.

I really do fear the worst. I listened to the manager's post-match comments with an open mind on the way home but found them worrisome.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

I've given it until this morning to calm down..we were again completely out thought by a manager with less league experience than our own...
I felt for Danny Rose, he plays with so much passion but he's gets less service than a clapped out ford escort....
Artell got it wrong, again, and I'm also at the point where Shaun P & Ben Davis have to hold to account too, they have been  part n parcel off this shitshow this season, but after thinking Artell was a great appointment I'm of thinking he's a salesman who could sell a freezer to an Eskimo but not show him how to work it!

I get it that Shaun and Ben are patr of the management team. But  they will be getting told by Artell what he wants them to do. That does not mean they agree with him . And like most employees they either do as they are asked or shown the door same as players do if they dont / cant do what is asked

Quoted from denni266

I get it that Shaun and Ben are patr of the management team. But  they will be getting told by Artell what he wants them to do. That does not mean they agree with him . And like most employees they either do as they are asked or shown the door same as players do if they dont / cant do what is asked

No, what they should do is be part of the decision making, training and tactical requirements, Artell is the Head coach, not Musilini.
Even our co owner believes in constructive criticism and open dialogue, so to think Artell has been given carte blanch to run the show in a "its my way or the highway" manner goes against Stockwoods ethos.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

No, what they should do is be part of the decision making, training and tactical requirements, Artell is the Head coach, not Musilini.
Even our co owner believes in constructive criticism and open dialogue, so to think Artell has been given carte blanch to run the show in a "its my way or the highway" manner goes against Stockwoods ethos.

Will have to agree to disagree on this one . They may have input but if the boss says no i want it my way you either do it or p45 time . Thats the bottom line .