Quoted from Grantham_Mariner

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Baffling

Looks like a bullshit account to me.

Not sure how true it is, but there's clearly an issue with him. Two managers with two completely different playstyles clearly don't fancy him. I'd expect if he's allowed to leave then it'd mean we have some business done and would probably be leaving for a fee.

Check the post history of that account, it’s a wind up.

Don’t know if he’s going to Carlisle but he has been told he’s free to leave.

Quoted from Alan Buckley

Don’t know if he’s going to Carlisle but he has been told he’s free to leave.

How many (numbers wise) have been told they can go ?

Quoted from Mappers

How many (numbers wise) have been told they can go ?

Hunt, michee and Amos (no surprises on the second two I’d imagine)

Eight players I heard

Quoted from Alan Buckley

Hunt, michee and Amos (no surprises on the second two I’d imagine)

How many are coming in and how many league games do the incomings have between them? Can't be doing with fresh faced kids here for their first taste of professional football.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

How many are coming in and how many league games do the incomings have between them? Can't be doing with fresh faced kids here for their first taste of professional football.

😬

I'm a Hunt fan and can't get my head round how he's gone from pivotal to free to leave in a matter of weeks under Artell.

Even more so when our midfield looks so average and plodding, especially without Conteh in there.  Is it attitude?

Genuinely hope Artell has got some rabbits ready to pull out tomorrow because we're definitely looking at this point of the month than we did at the start of it.

Quoted from diehardmariner

I'm a Hunt fan and can't get my head round how he's gone from pivotal to free to leave in a matter of weeks under Artell.

Even more so when our midfield looks so average and plodding, especially without Conteh in there.  Is it attitude?

Genuinely hope Artell has got some rabbits ready to pull out tomorrow because we're definitely looking at this point of the month than we did at the start of it.

Me neither. We were crying out for quality in midfield on Saturday. Really concerned now.

Quoted from diehardmariner

I'm a Hunt fan and can't get my head round how he's gone from pivotal to free to leave in a matter of weeks under Artell.

Even more so when our midfield looks so average and plodding, especially without Conteh in there.  Is it attitude?

Genuinely hope Artell has got some rabbits ready to pull out tomorrow because we're definitely looking at this point of the month than we did at the start of it.

Because he's not been very good.

Quoted from TAGG

Because he's not been very good.

He was part of a midfield that outplayed Crewe which was our best performance of the season.

He's basically Graham Hockless  I don't think he's going to make it.  

Quoted from MuddyWaters

He was part of a midfield that outplayed Crewe which was our best performance of the season.

And MKD but need more then two good game a season now he’s a grown up

Quoted from HerveJosse

And MKD but need more then two good game a season now he’s a grown up

This is the odd thing. He comes on at MK, plays well against Oxford & Crewe, gets dropped after Harrogate and has been barely seen since. Seemed like a perfect fit for what the manager said he wanted.

Quoted from TAGG

Because he's not been very good.

OK fair enough. I personally don't think he's getting a fair crack and when played in a more attacking role I think he's offered more than anyone else from that position this season.

But on your logic, we should have lined up on Saturday with 2 players.

Quoted from NorthseaMariner

Eight players I heard

3 gone already, 2 due out on loan, efete, amos, hunt n possibly another central midfielder makes your numbers right

Worrying times I think.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

He was part of a midfield that outplayed Crewe which was our best performance of the season.

Two managers now have decided not to play him regularly, that should tell us why he has been released.

Quoted from 123614

Two managers now have decided not to play him regularly, that should tell us why he has been released.

Did you watch Saturday’s game?

I know January is a difficult month to negotiate, and Artell wants to bring his own players in, but blimey... does anyone else think there's too much change happening?

Totally get that something needed to change given the form we were showing towards the end of Hurst's tenure.

That said, I didn't think he'd built a relegation squad. There was enough in it to steady the ship. Artell got a tune out of them to put in some decent early performances v Franchise, Crewe and Salford.

I just think with Conteh being sold, Waterfall leaving, Khan out on loan, and a trio of other players clearly being frozen out... it's rocking the boat maybe a bit too much?

Atmosphere at the club can't be great. Maybe that's to be expected in January. Just thought it showed on Saturday, so as soon as we can lock in this squad and know what we've got to work with, the sooner we can start playing like a team and building a bit of morale.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Did you watch Saturday’s game?

I have watched every game this season.  What's your point?

Quoted from 123614

I have watched every game this season.  What's your point?

If you need me to spell it out, our midfield was utter dross.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

If you need me to spell it out, our midfield was utter dross.

And you think Hunt would be the answer?  Hurst didn't fancy him, DA doesn't fancy him and he is inconsistent.  Why do you think he has been released if he's that good?

Quoted from diehardmariner

OK fair enough. I personally don't think he's getting a fair crack and when played in a more attacking role I think he's offered more than anyone else from that position this season.

But on your logic, we should have lined up on Saturday with 2 players.

He’s had a fairer crack of the whip than Amos, Michee & Khouri, just.

Quoted from 123614

And you think Hunt would be the answer?  Hurst didn't fancy him, DA doesn't fancy him and he is inconsistent.  Why do you think he has been released if he's that good?

Other then Rose they’re all inconsistent

Quoted from 123614

And you think Hunt would be the answer?  Hurst didn't fancy him, DA doesn't fancy him and he is inconsistent.  Why do you think he has been released if he's that good?

I’d take inconsistent with ability above utter dross. Andrews, Wood, Green and, to a lesser extent, Clifton were dross on Saturday.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Other then Rose they’re all inconsistent

WRONG - some of them are consistently crap! ;)

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Other then Rose they’re all inconsistent

No they’re not. Green is perpetually dreadful.

Quoted from toontown

WRONG - some of them are consistently crap! ;)

Fair point 👍

Quoted from 123614

And you think Hunt would be the answer?  Hurst didn't fancy him, DA doesn't fancy him and he is inconsistent.  Why do you think he has been released if he's that good?

He might be inconsistent but when he plays well, even in short periods of the game, he’s better than any other midfield player on our books. Andrews and Wood not strong enough for this league and are not ready for the battle ahead. I think Hunt has had much more first team experience and even if not playing regularly would, IMO, do enough to win us points between now and the end of the season.

Our midfield options are frighteningly bad, made worse if Khouri also goes out, and if Hunt leaves we need three new players in this position alone. Gav, Green, Harry, Wood, Andrews where is the creativity, physicality and leadership? It’s non existent very concerning.

I feel a bit for Wood being called not good enough.  Came on and scored on his debut and then had a shitter on his first start - but early to write home off surely.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I’d take inconsistent with ability above utter dross. Andrews, Wood, Green and, to a lesser extent, Clifton were dross on Saturday.

Wood has made 2 appearances and on one of them he stuck it in the top corner to make it 5-5. Talk about writing a lad off too early... Hunt has had 18 months to nail down a starting spot here and hasn't ever come close.. he's made 32 appearances in that time. To say he hasn't had a fair crack of the whip isn't really true, he's been here a long time now and there's clearly something else to it than just ability.

Quoted from Brummie Codfather

I feel a bit for Wood being called not good enough.  Came on and scored on his debut and then had a shitter on his first start - but early to write home off surely.

Welcome to The Fishy.

Pyke was classed as dross until he started scoring. Vernam was virtually retired and a waste of money until he performed well in a cameo.

One mistake, and you're written off, until you're not anymore, because some here don't understand that players are human, and have off days, or take a little time to work their way in to form. You'd think some had never followed a football team before...

Quoted from AncientExiledMariner

Welcome to The Fishy.

Pyke was classed as dross until he started scoring. Vernam was virtually retired and a waste of money until he performed well in a cameo.

One mistake, and you're written off, until you're not anymore, because some here don't understand that players are human, and have off days, or take a little time to work their way in to form. You'd think some had never followed a football team before...

I actually didn't mind Woods performance, despite things not coming off he was constantly looking to get on the ball and trying things. I'd much rather that then him being a passenger in a game. He's obviously got some ability as his stint over in Ireland showed. It'll be about whether he can adapt to L2 football.

Quoted from Brummie Codfather

I feel a bit for Wood being called not good enough.  Came on and scored on his debut and then had a shitter on his first start - but early to write home off surely.

Yeah will give you that one, but as for the others would you want us to sign them if they played for someone else?

Quoted from Brummie Codfather

I feel a bit for Wood being called not good enough.  Came on and scored on his debut and then had a shitter on his first start - but early to write home off surely.

Yeah, very unfair. He's just got here, a work in progress for the following months. Andrews is a little worrying, when he's good he's very good but when he's not he's very average, just the latest player to start well and drop away. Gavs struggling for consistency and Harry...no better than those mentioned yet the first on the team sheet it seems.
Baffled by all of this too.

I like Hunt but think, oddly enough, a 10-second spell at Carlisle last year summed him up. First off he picks the ball up just outside our box, drops a shoulder, beats his man & moves it on. 10 seconds later, he picks the ball up in almost the same position, tries the same trick, gets caught, goal.

Always given him the benefit of the doubt as when he’d lose possession it was generally because he was trying to do something progressive with it. Just can’t understand how he’s not managing to force himself into this team though.

Conteh had a bit more physicality about him & could protect the ball when in a tight spot. But the MK Dons game showed Hunt was better when played in a more attacking role & not sat in front of the back line.

See what the next 48 hours brings I suppose.

Quoted from 123614

And you think Hunt would be the answer?  Hurst didn't fancy him, DA doesn't fancy him and he is inconsistent.  Why do you think he has been released if he's that good?

Do you have any evidence that Hunt has been released?

I really hope we haven't 'released' one of our top earners with 18 months left on a contract, that would be disastrous from a business point of view.

Quoted from male private Nale

I really hope we haven't 'released' one of our top earners with 18 months left on a contract, that would be disastrous from a business point of view.

Not if Carlisle have taken him on a free , or better still, paid some sort of fee for him.if that were the case it would be a sound bit of business

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Do you have any evidence that Hunt has been released?

Ironic that Mr Evidence asks everyone to evidence every little thing but makes an assertion like that with NO EVIDENCE.

Quoted from davmariner

Ironic that Mr Evidence asks everyone to evidence every little thing but makes an assertion like that with NO EVIDENCE.

Mr Evidence!! Love it, he's also Mr. Contradiction quite often as well the old Bear.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I’d take inconsistent with ability above utter dross. Andrews, Wood, Green and, to a lesser extent, Clifton were dross on Saturday.

However, two managers disagree with you.

Quoted from male private Nale

I really hope we haven't 'released' one of our top earners with 18 months left on a contract, that would be disastrous from a business point of view.

'One of our top earners' who isn't getting in the team!  Damn right he should be released to allow us to get someone in who WILL play in the team.

Quoted from male private Nale

Mr Evidence!! Love it, he's also Mr. Contradiction quite often as well the old Bear.

Tut Tut!  You should really pay more attention.  I didn't make that post, it was jamesgtfc, so make sure you know what you are quoting before doing so.  

https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1706645339/s-0/

Quoted from 123614

'One of our top earners' who isn't getting in the team!  Damn right he should be released to allow us to get someone in who WILL play in the team.

Have you got any facts to state he is a top earner?

If so could you tell me where you got them from.

Quoted from Hagrid

Have you got any facts to state he is a top earner?

If so could you tell me where you got them from.

Not that it really matters, but it was male private Nale who originally said that >> https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1706645339/s-40/#num42

Quoted from Hagrid

Have you got any facts to state he is a top earner?

If so could you tell me where you got them from.

Don't ask me mate, it wasn't me who said that, I am just posting a reply to the person who said that.  I have absolutely no knowledge of details about players contracts' etc.

Quoted from Hagrid

Have you got any facts to state he is a top earner?

If so could you tell me where you got them from.

I'm sure no one really knows. Think its a fair inference to make, that he's up there, considering we signed him for a fee and on deadline day - which is you usually pay a premium for players on.

hunt not going to carlisle but heard efete got sorted with lge 2 club no news on amos or any incomings

Quoted from 123614

Tut Tut!  You should really pay more attention.  I didn't make that post, it was jamesgtfc, so make sure you know what you are quoting before doing so.  

https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1706645339/s-0/

You said he had been released, not me. I just asked for the evidence, which I'm still waiting for.

According to who you believe on here, that’s Hunt, Waterfall, Khan and Conteh who were all among our top earners (this week). Anymore for any more?

Only a guess but i would say rose be top earner closely matched with vernam both signed from lge one clubs , not a chance hunt or khan on big salaries

I get Hunt's inconsistent, but it'd be really strange if we let him go considering he's one of the only players who suits Artell's style of play. And, to be fair, he's done OK overall since Artell came in, then had a bad game against Harrogate and disappeared.

If we're to believe everything when it comes to the wages of those that have left, or are rumoured to leave, we should be making a profit from now on when it comes to wages paid out!

I think it's a fair assessment that Hunt won't be on a cheap wage though.  He signed a new deal at Sheff Weds to tie him down after his initial loan spell here, we then signed him permanently six months later.

Well I'd be dissapointed to see Efete go, I think he's a better player than mullarkey as I've said many times, but will go with my best wishes

I suspect that Hunt will be on a fair whack, given that he moved down a couple of divisions when he signed for us. Just guesswork, however.

Efete is undoubtedly a better defender than Mullarkey, but his touch and passing ability is pretty poor. He was OK for a place in the team when we had a physical presence up front and he could whack it upfield, but we're not trying to play that way. I can see why we might be happy for him to move on and he'll go with my best wishes if he does.

I think that's a fair assessment on Efete and I'm surprised Artell is sticking with Mullarkey despite the fact he's really struggling.  As with Hunt, Waterfall, Amos, Khan, Holohan etc.  If players have gone/are going then I'm comfortable with that, as long as we can bring in improvements on them.

I'm honestly a bit sick of seeing players moved on and then failing to upgrade.  

Quoted from diehardmariner

I think that's a fair assessment on Efete and I'm surprised Artell is sticking with Mullarkey despite the fact he's really struggling.  As with Hunt, Waterfall, Amos, Khan, Holohan etc.  If players have gone/are going then I'm comfortable with that, as long as we can bring in improvements on them.

I'm honestly a bit sick of seeing players moved on and then failing to upgrade.  

With Efete you’d presume Artell feels he can’t play the attacking football he wants to with him in at RB. He slows down so many of our attacks by checking back constantly or losing the ball completely. It’s odd because he looked okay going forward when he first joined.

Mullarkey playing just strikes me as the better of two pretty poor options.

Quoted from Maringer

I suspect that Hunt will be on a fair whack, given that he moved down a couple of divisions when he signed for us. Just guesswork, however.

Efete is undoubtedly a better defender than Mullarkey, but his touch and passing ability is pretty poor. He was OK for a place in the team when we had a physical presence up front and he could whack it upfield, but we're not trying to play that way. I can see why we might be happy for him to move on and he'll go with my best wishes if he does.

I would rather have Efete playing right back than Mullarkey.
The first job of being a right back is to defend well and not to get beat and it happens far to many times with Toby.

Weve conceeded 51 goals already this season compared to a total of 56 conceeded in the whole of last season.
Ultimatley the changes in defense has been Mullarkey and Rodgers. Two players I simply dont rate.

Quoted from pontoonlew

With Efete you’d presume Artell feels he can’t play the attacking football he wants to with him in at RB. He slows down so many of our attacks by checking back constantly or losing the ball completely. It’s odd because he looked okay going forward when he first joined.

Mullarkey playing just strikes me as the better of two pretty poor options.

Mullarkeys primary job is a defender, Something he is a liability at, I'm amazed he's been given as much leeway by Artell as he has.

Quoted from pontoonlew

With Efete you’d presume Artell feels he can’t play the attacking football he wants to with him in at RB. He slows down so many of our attacks by checking back constantly or losing the ball completely. It’s odd because he looked okay going forward when he first joined.

Mullarkey playing just strikes me as the better of two pretty poor options.

Agree, it's the biggest frustration I have with Efete. When he has the ball up the pitch I find myself endlessly thinking 'go on then, have a go'.

I'm at the stage thought that I think I'd prefer him to be playing rather than Mullarkey at the minute..

Quoted from 123614

And you think Hunt would be the answer?  Hurst didn't fancy him, DA doesn't fancy him and he is inconsistent.  Why do you think he has been released if he's that good?

I think Hunt would be the answer , best footballer at the club I.m.o.  U.T.M.

Quoted from Hagrid

Mullarkeys primary job is a defender, Something he is a liability at, I'm amazed he's been given as much leeway by Artell as he has.

The worst thing is, he claims his best position is a centre half. You'd of thought it'd be the other way around.

Quoted from diehardmariner

I think that's a fair assessment on Efete and I'm surprised Artell is sticking with Mullarkey despite the fact he's really struggling.  As with Hunt, Waterfall, Amos, Khan, Holohan etc.  If players have gone/are going then I'm comfortable with that, as long as we can bring in improvements on them.

I'm honestly a bit sick of seeing players moved on and then failing to upgrade.  

It’s a real challenging time to try and bring in marked improvements; both the time of year and the fact that we are struggling. No player wants a non-league relegation on their CV.

If go back to this time 3 years ago, when we played Leyton Orient a few weeks after the window closed, there were 8 new players in the starting lineup and a further 3 on the bench. Of those 11 players, only Jay Matete was a standout improvement on what we had, with honourable mentions going to Giles Coke, Jake Eastwood and LJL (though let’s be honest, I would have improved our striking options at that moment in time).

As Hurst learned the hard way, performing major surgery mid-season is no easy task, and by the time we recorded our last win of the season against Bolton, he was getting more joy out of players that were already here and only 5 “new” players made appearances. And, generally, they were the more sensible ones too - Menayese, Habergham, Coke, Matete and LJL.

I’m not trying to play down the need to try and improve our options, but with limited time and seemingly limited spare budget, I’d much rather we signed 1 or 2 Jay Matete’s than 7 Joe Adams’ / Joe Bunney’s / Julian Lamy’s. Individually, I don’t think the players we have are as anywhere near as bad as recent performances suggest; it’s up to the manager to find a couple of shrewd additions and breathe some calm and sense into the collective output.

Can Artell do that? I suppose we’ll find out over the course of the next 3 - 5 weeks.  

Well, my two penneth worth - I’d like Hunt to stay, has some ability but tbh hasn’t shown it more than a handful of times. Gets bullied out games, gives ball away needlessly- but when he does have a good day can open teams up with his ‘vision’. I’m kind of in the side of ‘not done enough’ (know he’s been in and out of side etc, not had a run) - and he’s in danger of falling by the wayside career wise. If it doesn’t work out here (if he stays for duration of contract) then there’s only one way he’s going..and it’s not up. Huge year for him imho. However, IF the Carlisle rumour is true (I’m very much doubtful) - then he’s very very fortunate in been given yet another opportunity to kick start career. Hope he stays and turns it around here - but wouldn’t lose any sleep either if went elsewhere, may be what he needs.

Efete.. bit of an enigma.. think he’s had a bit of unfair stick/not given a chance by some supporters - but hugely frustrating. Undoubtedly has ability - but looking from outside in - not sure he believes it. Has all the attributes..build.. physique..not slow..but rarely uses them. Appears to need to be ‘talked’ through games, anything on instinct ..not going to happen. Not the best physically in challenges, for aforementioned build, and of course the annoying habit of turning back all the time, when opportunity to go forward arises. Again, possibly down to confidence issues?? Another who you’d want to stay, even if to prove folk wrong..but looks likely he’s not part of the managers plans..so maybe a nice best for all parties. He’s another who needs to appreciate it’s a quick slide down to lower levels though..would be a shame because I feel he has attributes/ability to be a Football League player.

Some of the other on top of my head ..Wilson..can score, rarely features, often injured..sometimes maybe just in head as ex manager alluded to. He’s looked better coming off the bench, when he starts games he’s looked average at best. Can we afford to carry passengers?? For me - another probably best going elsewhere.

Danny Amos..done a decent job for us, likeable, huge part of recent ‘successes’ - but again injuries etc and not in managers plans..hope he can get fixed up somewhere and wish him well.

Mullarkey and Glennon ..prob both a feature in why we’re struggling defensively, and what they’re being asked to do..

Rogers been hugely disappointing after a bright start, Maher has done ‘ok’ ..nothing more.. centre mid we’ve nothing..(hence if Hunt stays hope he can turn it around) - but the likes of Green, Andrews et al nowhere near good enough. Clifton - not had a good season, still don’t know his best position, we may get offers end of season, May not - but if he’s here it’s for his attitude/versatility/stamina - no bad things at all..just need to work out where he’s best placed to get best out of him, or use him as a versatility player/back up.

Vernam ..needs to stay fit..has the asset of pace, big attribute at this level, but does he produce?? Question marks for me but a season left to make it work. Eisa ..had some flak recently..but overall he’s probably done better than most expected when he signed..room for improvement definitely but one to persevere with for me.

Danny Rose..done far far better than I imagined, great attitude/work rate - hope he’s here next season with better side/support around him.

Pyke..another who’s got ‘something’ but regularly injured..wouldn’t lose sleep if went.

Just a few off top of my head - but shows maybe the massive job needed between now and August to give Artell a chance moving forward.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

You said he had been released, not me. I just asked for the evidence, which I'm still waiting for.

No I did not, I posted a quote from someone else who said Hunt had been released, I have no knowledge of whether he has gone or not, only what I read on here.

Neither Efete or Mullarkey are good enough, consistent enough or good enough defensively AND going forward.

We need better defenders to progress.

I've advertised the fact that I'm a fan of Hunt but accept the limitations of his lack of physicality. Saturday was like a showreel of every reason we need to keep him because the midfield that started were so limited.

Maybe Conteh leaving means that Hunt has to go too as we don't seem to have any other midfielders on the same wavelength? Can't work it out - if we're left with what we have now and Hunt gone as well then we have no midfield creativity to speak of. Given what Artell has said, I can't believe that would be the case.

Efete does frustrate with his constant checking back but he lot more comfortable defending than mullarkey who for me as been a car crash signing never stops a cross notts game a prime example , thought rodgers was going to be waterfalls long term replacement & i still think could be but his confidence is shot to bits , on the other side amos is better than glennon altho i would replace both & maher is very overrated by some of our fans he cant head a ball or doesn't want too & his marking in 18 yard box is non existant , if we stop up i'd like to see a new back four

I personally think Efete is reasonable at this level defensively, and don't see why we cannot keep him there defensively and attack down the left, but Artell wanted someone in on that side to push Mullarkey out to backup, and needed the wages freed up, so took a risk there. Same with Amos. If he's playing them, they'd probably not actively look for a team and we won't have the flexibility to improve things.

Quoted from 123614

No I did not, I posted a quote from someone else who said Hunt had been released, I have no knowledge of whether he has gone or not, only what I read on here.

I suggest you re-read the thread. The first mention of the word "released" was by yourself. Nobody else mentioned that prior you you stating that he had been released.

Quoted from 123614

Two managers now have decided not to play him regularly, that should tell us why he has been released.

I don't think Hunt will be going in this window.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

I suggest you re-read the thread. The first mention of the word "released" was by yourself. Nobody else mentioned that prior you you stating that he had been released.

Sorry, but you are wrong I was DEFINITELY NOT the first person to mention he had been released.  I suggest YOU look at this and other threads to see who was, then you can apologise to me.

Edit:  I suggest you look at page 1 of this very thread.

Quoted from Alan Buckley

Don’t know if he’s going to Carlisle but he has been told he’s free to leave.

we paid a 6 figure fee for this lad

Very doubtful about that number.

Released NO told to find another club YES big differance

I’ll wade in.

The issue with Hunt is he’s not a L2 player. The pace and more importantly physicality of this league negate all his talents. That’s not to say he’ll fail at a higher level where the level of meat head he’s playing against is not quite as agricultural as L2. I think he needs better players around him to thrive. We don’t have that so you can’t really use him properly in our current position.
On that basis, he’s wasted here and might as well go.

What has been so annoying about Hunt is that he was brilliant when he came on loan. Pinpoint crosses from corners etc. All that seems to disappear from his game the last 18 months.

Quoted from 123614

Sorry, but you are wrong I was DEFINITELY NOT the first person to mention he had been released.  I suggest YOU look at this and other threads to see who was, then you can apologise to me.

Edit:  I suggest you look at page 1 of this very thread.

Page 1 of this thread has someone saying he's been told that he is free to leave. That is different to being released.

I will be deeply disappointed to see Hunt go. We can debate his risky decisions and lightweight frame, but if we want to play an attacking game, then we need more players on his wavelength.

He’s exactly the sort of player who should suit Artell’s style, but I fear he will be yet another departure as part of the usual churn of players. If Artell can find better, then good luck to him, but year on year we seem to churn huge numbers of players, for slightly better or slightly worse alternatives, without ever making material progress.

It would be nice to compete at the top end of this division one day….

Quoted from fishcake63

Released NO told to find another club YES big differance

hahahaha

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Page 1 of this thread has someone saying he's been told that he is free to leave. That is different to being released.

Don't be silly.  He has been told to find another club, if that isn't being released, then I don't know what is!  It's telling him he isn't wanted here any more.

Quoted from 123614

Don't be silly.  He has been told to find another club, if that isn't being released, then I don't know what is!  It's telling him he isn't wanted here any more.

Released means he's been released, like no longer with us,  let go, kicked out the door, see Efete for clarity.
Being told "to look for another club" means he's still under contract and employed by the club until as such time he gets a move to another club.

To be honest, I'm sick to the back teeth of this "prove me wrong" attitude that is getting so dominant on here.

Quoted from 123614

Don't be silly.  He has been told to find another club, if that isn't being released, then I don't know what is!  It's telling him he isn't wanted here any more.

Released means paid up. I very much doubt we’re paying off 18 months of Alex’s contract.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Released means he's been released, like no longer with us,  let go, kicked out the door, see Efete for clarity.
Being told "to look for another club" means he's still under contract and employed by the club until as such time he gets a move to another club.

To be honest, I'm sick to the back teeth of this "prove me wrong" attitude that is getting so dominant on here.

So you don't mind if people post stuff that just isn't true?  If you don't like it, don't read it.

Quoted from 123614

So you don't mind if people post stuff that just isn't true?  If you don't like it, don't read it.

There's a difference between rumours and blatant lies!...you are always asking for "proof", sometimes just accept that we like to chat excrement and waste some down time on a forum thats about all things black n white.

You said this, I said that. For Christs sake grow up all of you.

Quoted from NorthseaMariner

You said this, I said that. For Christs sake grow up all of you.

New here?

Sadly no. Over a thousand posts, but gradually thinking of bailing out mate.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

I’ll wade in.

The issue with Hunt is he’s not a L2 player. The pace and more importantly physicality of this league negate all his talents. That’s not to say he’ll fail at a higher level where the level of meat head he’s playing against is not quite as agricultural as L2. I think he needs better players around him to thrive. We don’t have that so you can’t really use him properly in our current position.
On that basis, he’s wasted here and might as well go.

I was thinking the same. Hurst once alluded to him being too quick thinking for the players around him.

Maybe a move to a higher level will suit him, if indeed there are any truth to the rumours.

If he was above this level then wouldn't he have made it at Wednesday?

In certainly not convinced by the argument that a certain player is too good for a lower division and that's why they aren't performing well. If he struggles to retain possession in League Two, why would he be any better at it in higher divisions where the opposition players tend to be quicker as well as better athletes.

When you see players who are too good for a lower division, it's because their opponents can't win the ball off them, not the opposite!

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

If he was above this level then wouldn't he have made it at Wednesday?

He wasn’t going to get in ahead of Barry Bannon who’s been there ages.

This he’s to good for this level arguement is for the fairies. I don’t remember ageing Futcher , Birtles , Whywark  , Beassnt, Todd etc dropping down and not being able to play at this level

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

If he was above this level then wouldn't he have made it at Wednesday?

he was Barry Bannan's understudy, if I remember correctly, and Bannon turned out to be like a Duracell bunny, so there was no way forward for Hunt

Quoted from HerveJosse

This he’s to good for this level arguement is for the fairies. I don’t remember ageing Futcher , Birtles , Whywark  , Beassnt, Todd etc dropping down and not being able to play at this level

Still if he was good enough you'd have expected him to make more than single figure appearances over multipleseasons, also nobody else at that level was interested enough to pick him up instead of us.

Quoted from HerveJosse

This he’s to good for this level arguement is for the fairies. I don’t remember ageing Futcher , Birtles , Whywark  , Beassnt, Todd etc dropping down and not being able to play at this level

For a start the latter three didn’t, they played second tier. The other two were not anywhere near as slight as Hunt. They were also miles better than him too

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

For a start the latter three didn’t, they played second tier. The other two were not anywhere near as slight as Hunt. They were also miles better than him too

My point is if you are a good player playing below your level is not a problem whatever it is .

Quoted from HerveJosse

My point is if you are a good player playing below your level is not a problem whatever it is .

You just illustrated it really badly, is that what you’re saying?

Good players find space, look at Elliot Embleton when he came here. Looked a class above every single time he stepped foot on the pitch and he was roughly the same size as Hunt.

Embelton is a very, very high bar to compare anyone at this level with.  But it's a good point.    If you're good enough, you'll stand out at any level including those below you.  The reason aging players can drop down the levels even though their legs are going is because their train of thought is so much quicker.  First two yards in your head and all that...

That said I can understand what people are saying about perhaps Hunt would be better suited at a higher level.

Ironically, admittingly as a fully fledged Alex Hunt Fan Club member, I've always thought finding space was something he's very good at, especially when playing further forward.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Embelton is a very, very high bar to compare anyone at this level with.  But it's a good point.    If you're good enough, you'll stand out at any level including those below you.  The reason aging players can drop down the levels even though their legs are going is because their train of thought is so much quicker.  First two yards in your head and all that...

That said I can understand what people are saying about perhaps Hunt would be better suited at a higher level.

Ironically, admittingly as a fully fledged Alex Hunt Fan Club member, I've always thought finding space was something he's very good at, especially when playing further forward.

Yeah I totally understand the reasoning behind it, look at MK's pitch compared to ours and the space you get on the ball but you either need to be lucky whilst you're at one of them clubs i.e Harry Kane and take your chance when you get it or perform whilst you're out on loan or in these divisions and earn your chance. Hunt clearly hasn't done either which is a shame because there's quite obviously a talented player there.. his technique to deliver set pieces in that conference season was so pinpoint. The LW header at home against Wrexham was magical.

I am a fan of Hunt as well.  Although not sure why looking at the evidence.  He was better when here on loan (as others in the past have been).  He takes a mean free kick.  

A frustrating player that should produce more than he does.  

Both excellent points on him.  I can't remember who said it someone said in the last few days that they feel that they've become more a fan of the idea of him succeeding than actually a fan of him.  The more I think about it, the more I think I'm in that camp too.

I do believe that he has the talent a) to build an attacking base around and b) to perhaps indulge a little with his flaws, such as his slightly wasteful nature with the ball. Making ourselves very comfortable that 50% of his passes might not come to anything, but put him in a position on the pitch where we've plenty of opportunities to recover and there's enough players around him to do that actual recovery.  That's not to suggest he's a lazy player of the luxury sense either.  He's neither Scott Neilson or Jordan Maguire-Drew, he's obviously prepared to put a shift in and get stuck in.  The other 50% of his passes that do come to something, well they're what we base our attacking play around (or at least a lot of it).

Something, quite clearly, isn't quite right though.  With Hurst I can almost forgive and understand his reluctance.  Neilson, Maguire-Drew...plus others have found themselves signed by Hurst and then not trusted.   But Artell came in with a reputation of expansive play, he described our style as 'meh', he described Hunt as 'pivotal' moving forward.  Hunt should be the player that Artell clocked on Day One and said 'yep, he's the focal point'.  But very quickly he looks to have identified that he isn't.  

Hopefully, this transfer talk is shite.  Artell reviews the last midfield performance and puts Hunt in on Saturday, he plays a blinder and we base our future development around him.  It just doesn't look likely, does it?

So he has not gone then ?

Quoted from Brazilnut

So he has not gone then ?

He could still go to the National League who don’t have a window.