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Posted by: davmariner, January 27, 2024, 11:22pm
Taking some pelters from numpties on Twitter over his interview. Personally I didn’t see anything wrong with it.

Whether you’re supportive or sceptical of Artell, surely we can agree that the media asking tough questions (especially given our poor form) is an important part of ensuring the team is answerable to the fans?
Posted by: 140381 (Guest), January 27, 2024, 11:23pm; Reply: 1
Fúck all he can do with monosyllabic answers ffs.
Posted by: Andy, January 27, 2024, 11:31pm; Reply: 2
Personally would listen to Matt Dean's questioning of DA than John Tondeur's line of questions every time.
Posted by: Badger57, January 27, 2024, 11:34pm; Reply: 3
Thought he asked questions that needed asking. He certainly didn't back off or be too scared to follow up on initial queries like some others would have done. I thought he did very well and I liked the way D.A. answered honestly too whilst not answering questions that might be detrimental to securing new players. Excellent interview in my eyes.
Posted by: Poojah, January 27, 2024, 11:39pm; Reply: 4
No fúcking about from Matt Dean, and fair enough. Serve up cold, unfriendly football, get cold, unfriendly questions.
Posted by: GrimRob, January 27, 2024, 11:50pm; Reply: 5
Anything is better than "official" vetted questions that insult the fans. Jolley couldn't deal with the questions. It's part of the job. As is the baying from the Main Stand.
Posted by: Nelly GTFC, January 28, 2024, 12:07am; Reply: 6
Probally linked elsewhere, just listened to it myself >>  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0h7jffj
Posted by: AncientExiledMariner, January 28, 2024, 12:12am; Reply: 7
Twitter is a toxic cesspool. Anyone who goes on it knows it's going to be a toxic cesspool. Best to get off it.

If you really need to condense your thoughts down to a limited number of character, there is always Mastodon which is open source and isn't designed to get you wound up to keep you clicking so they can get more advertising money. Tightly wound people wind people tightly.
Posted by: MaccasBoots, January 28, 2024, 12:35am; Reply: 8
Sorry, I'm normally a fan of Matt's, but I did think some of his questions today seemed unnecessary and deliberately designed to provoke a reaction from Artell.

Both the nature of the questions (e.g. repeatedly asking him to criticise Glennon - weird), and in the style of questioning. Seriously, relisten to that interview and imagine how you would feel if you were in Artell's shoes.

Hopefully just a bizarre one off from MD and he can get back to his usual good standard.
Posted by: immariner, January 28, 2024, 12:45am; Reply: 9
Quoted from MaccasBoots
Sorry, I'm normally a fan of Matt's, but I did think some of his questions today seemed unnecessary and deliberately designed to provoke a reaction from Artell.

Both the nature of the questions (e.g. repeatedly asking him to criticise Glennon - weird), and in the style of questioning. Seriously, relisten to that interview and imagine how you would feel if you were in Artell's shoes.

Hopefully just a bizarre one off from MD and he can get back to his usual good standard.


Have to agree really. Couple of big cringes for me when MD refused to say the word relegation so when DA said it he acted like it was a gotcha, and the persistent questioning about the trialist that DA could never have been realistically expected to answer. Seems to me like MD went into that interview with too much of his frustrated supporter head on and not enough of his objective journalist head
Posted by: arryarryarry, January 28, 2024, 12:53am; Reply: 10
Can't imagine Artell being interviewed by David Burns.

D.B. was never afraid to ask questions that would urine a manager off, Jolley for example.
Posted by: aussiej, January 28, 2024, 1:51am; Reply: 11
Nothing wrong with the questions. In fact i thought he could have followed up more at times, especiolly about what you are going to do to address the grave threat of relegation. If we are relegated again so soon i think there will be a real danger of losing the fans and consequently losing the club.
Personally i think we will be relegated as this club has got it written all over it. This squad of players we are left with are terrible and i find it hard to find a first eleven capable of performing to 2nd division standards.
Posted by: StacyColdicotts_hairline, January 28, 2024, 7:11am; Reply: 12
Excellent questions from Dean and ones that needed asking.

Artell excrement the bed and had no real answers.

Its all very worrying

Very unimpressed with Artell
Posted by: The Dogs Testicles, January 28, 2024, 7:28am; Reply: 13
Absolutely spot on from Matt Dean, as per!!

He only asked the direct/straight to the point questions that we were all thinking whilst driving home from the game.

He asked about Glennon because our fullbacks have been so focussed on attacking that they’ve failed to do their primary task for weeks and in doing so, massively contributed to shipping a boat load of goals in!!

As for Artel, I’m seriously not convinced and whilst people always tend to blame PH, I’m really worried that his recruitment may leave a huge mess for his successor to dig out!!

I bet even JS & AP are having second thoughts.

He’s coming across as a big arrogant and a bit of a Billy 🐮 💩 er!!
Posted by: GhostDan, January 28, 2024, 7:52am; Reply: 14
Nothing wrong with the Matt Deans questioning at all - he’s seen exactly what Grimsby Town sleep walking out of the Football League looks like first hand and it sounded to me like he was trying to make Artell aware of that possibility.

I shudder with fear when I hear him say we won’t go down, or that we’ve got too many good players to go down. We have 1 win in 7 and are 20th in League Two - if we have as many good players as he says, it would be brilliant if they could come forward pretty quick.
Posted by: Spurn boy, January 28, 2024, 8:48am; Reply: 15
I thought it was a good interview by Matt Dean who sort of vented his frustration and disappointment of watching that game as not only a commentator but also as a representative of us fans who would never have the opportunity to ask DA those questions. I thought DA answered them honestly but at the same time protecting his players, he knows we played crap and he also knows it is not going to be easy to get his vision across to the majority of the players.
Posted by: 123614 (Guest), January 28, 2024, 9:09am; Reply: 16
It was a good interview by DA, he answered all the questions and, quite rightly refused to criticise individuals, which was what MD, quite wrongly was asking him to do.  Of course it was a difficult interview for him, and I believe these interviews take place pretty soon after the match has ended.  You could clearly see that DA was visibly annoyed and frustrated that the team failed to adhere to his instructions for the game, so I am of the opinion that in those circumstances he handled the interview quite well.
Posted by: Yarborough Vaults, January 28, 2024, 9:26am; Reply: 17
Great interview with MD really holding DA to account for that dross.

Also MD knew his stuff there, when DA started being evasive about the trialist MD pushed him on it with the name and position. If DA had wanted to sound as though he was addressing issues we can all see, he would have volunteered that himself.

We need more MD and less in house PR especially when things are going wrong as they are now
Posted by: HertsGTFC, January 28, 2024, 9:32am; Reply: 18
MD doing his job well and in the right manner.
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, January 28, 2024, 9:33am; Reply: 19
The only thing I don’t like about naming trialists is the fact it makes other clubs aware and our hand is somewhat forced. You could hear that DA  didn’t really want to discuss it as it’s obviously ongoing
Posted by: moosey_club, January 28, 2024, 9:39am; Reply: 20
The asking of naming trialists or even transfer targets is poor journalism to me but they all do it.....its pointless as I have rarely/ever heard a manager of any club reveal anything of substance to that question.




Posted by: MuddyWaters, January 28, 2024, 9:39am; Reply: 21
Matt was right on the money in the interview.

If you want a positive, he accepted that we were rubbish. Amongst the negatives, it was with a squad that we're mostly stuck with.
Posted by: sam gy, January 28, 2024, 10:15am; Reply: 22
Matt asked the questions and Artell answered them. Don’t really see the problem though I think it’s perhaps unfair to ask him to dig out players or name transfer targets (though they all ask this.)

Don’t think he was being prickly with MD at the beginning with one word answers, just think he was visibly drunk off at the performance and was showing that.
Posted by: friskneymariner, January 28, 2024, 10:42am; Reply: 23
Quoted from 123614
It was a good interview by DA, he answered all the questions and, quite rightly refused to criticise individuals, which was what MD, quite wrongly was asking him to do.  Of course it was a difficult interview for him, and I believe these interviews take place pretty soon after the match has ended.  You could clearly see that DA was visibly annoyed and frustrated that the team failed to adhere to his instructions for the game, so I am of the opinion that in those circumstances he handled the interview quite well.


He was in full Selwyn mode,very rattled underneath and totally out of his depth.
Posted by: Croxton, January 28, 2024, 11:10am; Reply: 24
Good in parts but not Dean's best work.

Dean asked some of the questions fans wanted to hear but allowed Artell to make repeated assertions about what players did wrong without challenge. e.g ''wacking it all the time''. This was one feature for sure, but there was also some inept parody of passing it round the back whilst midfielders failed to show for the ball. Dean let that go.

On throw ins, Artell said he didn't want players to ''keep throwing it down the line''. Actually, You could see that we tried to avoid that option even when a player moved into space. Tranmere, and every other team we play, show us how to move defenders around to create space. The real issue Dean failed to identify was how static players like Harry and Eisa were sometimes.

Instead , Dean talked about alarm bells in a roundabout way trying to trick Artell into mentioning 'relegation'. Not clever. When he wasn't being disingenuous he was unnecessarily direct. ''Why don't the players want to play the way you want to play?''

Dean wanted full value for his tip off about the triallist and when it was rightly deflected he still persisted. He should know that the club, the player and several other actors in this process would have been hacked off by the manager being unprofessional about a potential signing.

Dean is a fan, a good commentator and generally interviews respectfully but it was a difficult listen with flashbacks of the Curtis Woodhouse debacle.

I say this as one who is not comfortable with Artell's appointment but was prepared to give him 'the window'. He needs a very good week ahead.
Posted by: headingly_mariner, January 28, 2024, 1:18pm; Reply: 25
Really good questions to a really shite interviewee.

He just talks balderdash, laid all the blame with the players and was rightly asked what part he had in that and what he was going to do about it.

He's a bit prickly and seems to have a touch of the intellectual snobbery. Alright being an arrogant girl private if you're Jose Mourinho, not if you've just been rolled over by Tranmere. Easy to blame the players, but he got it wrong yesterday and didn't change it.
Posted by: headingly_mariner, January 28, 2024, 1:21pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from Croxton
Good in parts but not Dean's best work.

Dean asked some of the questions fans wanted to hear but allowed Artell make repeated assertions about what players did wrong without challenge. e.g ''wacking it all the time''. This was one feature for sure, but there was also some inept parody of passing it round the back whilst midfielders failed to show for the ball. Dean let that go.

On throw ins, Artell said he didn't want players to ''keep throwing it down the line''. Actually, You could see that we tried to avoid that option even when a player moved into space. Tranmere, and every other team we play, show us how to move defenders around to create space. The real issue Dean failed to identify was how static players like Harry and Eisa were sometimes.

Instead , Dean talked about alarm bells in a roundabout way trying to trick Artell into mentioning 'relegation'. Not clever. When he wasn't being disingenuous he was unnecessarily direct. ''Why don't the players want to play the way you want to play?''

Dean wanted full value for his tip off about the triallist and when it was rightly deflected he still persisted. He should know that the club, the player and several other actors in this process would have been hacked off by the manager being unprofessional about a potential signing.

Dean is a fan, a good commentator and generally interviews respectfully but it was a difficult listen with flashbacks of the Curtis Woodhouse debacle.

I say this as one who is not comfortable with Artell's appointment but was prepared to give him 'the window'. He needs a very good week ahead.


The club 100% spoke to Curtis Woodhouse and he thought he'd been appointed 😂
Posted by: DB, January 28, 2024, 1:25pm; Reply: 27
I thought it was a very good interview by Matt Dean. Questions needed to be asked about a side that shipped 13 goals and only managed 1 point in 3 games.

No excuses from DA, he knew the players he was getting when he signed up.
Posted by: JK47, January 28, 2024, 1:47pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from DB
I thought it was a very good interview by Matt Dean. Questions needed to be asked about a side that shipped 13 goals and only managed 1 point in 3 games.

No excuses from DA, he knew the players he was getting when he signed up.


Agreed.  I get the impression that Artell has a set agenda of how he wants players to play.  Unfortunately, that depends on the players you have surely?  You have to play to THEIR strengths.  If over time you can get in players suitable to play in your style, THEN you can impose it, but not with players where Hurst unaccountably let some go who did a good job, and brought in some that were not as good?

Posted by: lancspontooner, January 28, 2024, 2:09pm; Reply: 29
Quoted from friskneymariner


He was in full Selwyn mode,very rattled underneath and totally out of his depth.


Thank you. Made me smile after that performance. Been thinking who he reminded me of and couldn't place it. Of course it's Selwyn Froggitt - Oh no it's David Artell! Speaks like he is one step removed from the responsibility of setting the team up. Managers don't normally lose both the supporters and the dressing room so quickly. Magic our Morris!
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, January 28, 2024, 2:18pm; Reply: 30
I think Matt is great at what he does, good honest journalism. I think Artells responses were quite telling and I think he's at the end of his tethers with a lot of this squad.
Posted by: WHYWONTYOULETMESIGNUP, January 28, 2024, 2:40pm; Reply: 31
Ive just listened. Felt matt dean asked all the tough questions, which doesnt always happen when it should, and also felt that fair play to Artell he faced up to it, didnt laugh it off like a bignot, spit his dummy out like a jolley or talk a load of shite like a holloway
Posted by: HertsGTFC, January 28, 2024, 2:42pm; Reply: 32
I just wonder if Artell was holding back from going full Troy Deeney.
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, January 28, 2024, 2:49pm; Reply: 33
Quoted from HertsGTFC
I just wonder if Artell was holding back from going full Troy Deeney.


that's what I thought about it, especially when it come to the just whacking it comment. He quite clearly is at the end of the line with a lot of them.
Posted by: Rodley Mariner, January 28, 2024, 2:52pm; Reply: 34
I like Matt Dean but what did he expect DA to say 'Yes it was flipping dreadful by Glennon for the first goal and I do regret saying we won't be relegated because it looked decidedly possible today'. Would have been interesting to see the reaction to that on here.
Posted by: forza ivano, January 28, 2024, 2:56pm; Reply: 35
my impression from listening to it, is that he might be taking a more hurst-like approach from tomorrow, inasmuch that there will be far less discussions and conversations, more like Hurst's 'this is what you do, now go and do what i've told you' approach
Posted by: Mappers, January 28, 2024, 3:41pm; Reply: 36
Quoted from Rodley Mariner
I like Matt Dean but what did he expect DA to say 'Yes it was flipping dreadful by Glennon for the first goal and I do regret saying we won't be relegated because it looked decidedly possible today'. Would have been interesting to see the reaction to that on here.


I thought after that roasting from Nemane at Notts early in the piece and being dragged off we wouldn't see Glennon  in a Town shirt again.

He was roasted again yesterday , it's a shame he's a liability as a defender because his attributes going forward are useful
Posted by: GrimRob, January 28, 2024, 4:00pm; Reply: 37
For all that he was saying he was unhappy with the players I don't remember noticing him communicating with them much during the many breaks in play. I think the Tranmere manager was more active. I may be wrong because I was the other side of the pitch and not always looking at the benches. Be interesting to get main stand views as to any pitch side instructions.
Posted by: ska face, January 28, 2024, 4:07pm; Reply: 38
Quoted from HertsGTFC
I just wonder if Artell was holding back from going full Troy Deeney.


Yeah probably Troy Deeney of 2012 who got jailed for booting someone’s head in. Sure he’d like to do that to some of this squad.

Anyway, Artell would benefit from watching some politicians and other managers if he’s so thin skinned. Just answer the question you wish you’d been asked rather than giving one word answers & being obtuse. I’m not really bothered about his interview style but you can’t act like an ąrsehole and then get the hump when someone tries to get more than one word out of you.
Posted by: ginnywings, January 28, 2024, 5:09pm; Reply: 39
I like Matt Dean; he usually does good interviews, but I felt he just drifted slightly beyond the impartiality a journalist is supposed to maintain, and slipped a little bit into disgruntled fan mode.

Can't say I blame him after that performance.
Posted by: 1mickylyons, January 28, 2024, 5:12pm; Reply: 40
Quoted from ginnywings
I like Matt Dean; he usually does good interviews, but I felt he just drifted slightly beyond the impartiality a journalist is supposed to maintain, and slipped a little bit into disgruntled fan mode.

Can't say I blame him after that performance.


We need a fans forum so the Manager and board can set about him then he will pipe down for a bit.
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, January 28, 2024, 5:18pm; Reply: 41
I was actually cringing at the radio tbh, not the questions he asked
they were fine, more MDs tone, thought he was just overly aggressive and Artell did well not to cut him short in all honesty.
Posted by: The Dogs Testicles, January 28, 2024, 6:41pm; Reply: 42
Matt Dean was bang on with his questioning and had every right to ask what most of us fans were thinking/wanted answers too!

Matt has always been 💯 and not afraid to pose difficult questions, equally, he will be the first to praise when it’s all gone to plan.

D.A. was quite salty tbf and I don’t think Matt was trying to provoke him for one minute!
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, January 28, 2024, 6:58pm; Reply: 43
Quoted from The Dogs Testicles
Matt Dean was bang on with his questioning and had every right to ask what most of us fans were thinking/wanted answers too!

Matt has always been 💯 and not afraid to pose difficult questions, equally, he will be the first to praise when it’s all gone to plan.

D.A. was quite salty tbf and I don’t think Matt was trying to provoke him for one minute!


But MD should know, or at least expect, that a Manager is not going to be critical of an individual player in public nor is he going to say Christ we face relegation with this group. Ask the questions once, just in case you get a scoup, but once DA has rebuffed it move on.
Posted by: Croxton, January 28, 2024, 7:26pm; Reply: 44
Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56


But MD should know, or at least expect, that a Manager is not going to be critical of an individual player in public nor is he going to say Christ we face relegation with this group. Ask the questions once, just in case you get a scoup, but once DA has rebuffed it move on.


Ideally a manager/ football club and the Press should aim for a symbiotic relationship where the beneficial ratio is as near to 50/50 as possible. The reality is that the power / dependency relationship fluctuates and one party feels they are the weaker and try to achieve parity at least. It seemed that either Dean was trying to assert himself a little, Artell picked up on it and stimied by  rambling about ''throwing it down the line'' etc.

Knowledge is power apparently and perhaps RH no longer get a heads up on transfer matters or some such micro aggression. Don't really care, but there was an undercurrent. Bet Crofty knows all about it but 'could not possibly comment.'
Posted by: 123614 (Guest), January 28, 2024, 9:41pm; Reply: 45
Quoted from friskneymariner


He was in full Selwyn mode,very rattled underneath and totally out of his depth.


Disagree.

Posted by: AncientExiledMariner, January 28, 2024, 9:46pm; Reply: 46
Looks here like there is people that expect an interview to be professional, and ask questions, not try to make headlines and there are those that are angry and want to see DA punished because they need someone to blame. This is the not the first manager this year baffled by what some of these players are doing on the pitch. Football intelligence seems to be lacking. You could see clearly DA was upset, and didn't try to defend that display. He clearly gives a excrement.

An interviewer pushing for the word relegation, pushing for trial information that cannot be given without scuppering the deal, weakening the club or putting the club in a bad light, and trying to push for the boss to criticise players, is just poor class. This new BS school of journalism where the interviewers feel they're the stars needs to die.

I think there is valid criticism of MD to be had, but in a respectful manner.
Posted by: HerveJosse, January 28, 2024, 9:48pm; Reply: 47
Quoted from The Dogs Testicles
Matt Dean was bang on with his questioning and had every right to ask what most of us fans were thinking/wanted answers too!

Matt has always been 💯 and not afraid to pose difficult questions, equally, he will be the first to praise when it’s all gone to plan.

D.A. was quite salty tbf and I don’t think Matt was trying to provoke him for one minute!


I don’t think MD would have asked the question about Glennon or been so aggresive if he was still interviewing PH. I thought be was bordering on out of order.
Posted by: 123614 (Guest), January 28, 2024, 9:48pm; Reply: 48
Looks here like there is people that expect an interview to be professional, and ask questions, not try to make headlines and there are those that are angry and want to see DA punished because they need someone to blame. This is the not the first manager this year baffled by what some of these players are doing on the pitch. Football intelligence seems to be lacking. You could see clearly DA was upset, and didn't try to defend that display. He clearly gives a excrement.

An interviewer pushing for the word relegation, pushing for trial information that cannot be given without scuppering the deal, weakening the club or putting the club in a bad light, and trying to push for the boss to criticise players, is just poor class. This new BS school of journalism where the interviewers feel they're the stars needs to die

I think there is valid criticism of MD to be had, but in a respectful manner.


I agree, and think Dean was out of order.

Posted by: diehardmariner, January 29, 2024, 9:22am; Reply: 49
Shock horror - Football manager is a bit short when getting questions thrust in front of him minutes after his weeks work has gone down the pisser. We're all drunk off after a performance like that, you only have to look at here or social media to see how people instantly react.  Imagine that when it's your job and then you get a microphone shoved under your chin straight away.

He's upset, he's emotional and he's probably trying to stop himself from screaming that if he had his way he would sack all the useless fornicators.

Matt Dean's doing his job but it was, slightly, unexpected owing to his and Humberside's usual quite chummy style of questions.   Didn't think it was fair or expected for Artell to dig Glennon out and I actually think he responded well to that.  Dean couldn't have grumbled if he found himself ignored with the trialists questions, there has to be an element of accepting when the interviewee doesn't want to proceed down that path.  There's clearly reasons for it.

As with a lot of media that comes out or through the club, there's a massive overreaction and over analysing of it.  I don't particularly care too much about what Artell says before or after games and I imagine it holds little relevance to what is said behind closed doors.  It's more about what happens on the pitch, of which Saturday was utter shite.
Posted by: RonMariner, January 29, 2024, 6:52pm; Reply: 50
Having watched the interview I though Artell handled it well. He is clearly very angry about the performance but maintained a calm and professional demeanor.

He mentioned that there are several irons in the fire regarding incoming players. Let's hope he gets several of them over the line this week.    
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