Subs Eastwood, Waterfall, Efete, Green, Holohan, Andrews, Pyke

First game in a long time, I'm feeling confident going into for a change. Just got that feeling in my bones or that could just be a the wind blowing through me  ;D ;D

Looks like another unchanged starting line up, 3 games on the trot now.

Something to note from Harrogates line up, not a single centre half in the matchday squad. Back 4 consists of 4 full backs.

And they are missing Sam Folarin - possibly their best attacking player. Their away form is very good though.

Harrogate have conceded 28 this season - the fewest in the bottom half. Hopefully Rose continues his recent form.

Good to see Town defending the pontoon end first.

Good to see Pyke back in the squad.

Two poor corners from Glennon.

Always nice to see Town trying to play pass and move football. Neither the passing nor the moving quite fluent enough so far though.

Harrogate pressing us high, causing a couple of problems for us playing out but when we get through the press the chances are there. Rodgers needs to be more intelligent in his passing.. firing it into people at 100 mph when they've got players up there behind expecting them to hold it.

That being said, we do look dangerous whenever we have possession of the ball in the Harrogate half.

Pitch looks good.

Another poor corner and given away by Hunt.

Whoever’s been devising the corner routines needs to lay off the crack a bit.

What a waste of a corner, put it straight in the box ffs.

Quoted from Poojah

That being said, we do look dangerous whenever we have possession of the ball in the Harrogate half.

Do you regard Harrogate as a bogey team?

I always think of having to stick my thumb right in, not quite being able to dig it out, and then getting caught out by a passing HGV driver.

FFS Glennon.

Our corners are terrible

Holohan for Hunt at half time, looks lost out there.

Plan B needed asap

This is shite. Maher or Glennon are gonna gift them a goal.

Some loose passing out the back.

Town should be 2-0 down here. We are shite.

Should have pushed the boat out to get Danny Cowley.

Said on here ages ago and got pelters but I will say it again.
January we need to new center backs.

This is dreadful, Harrogate look a league above us and not 3/4 places

Playing out is fine, but it does need refining. I'm having a heart attack.

Town are really riding their luck.  But.  Two months ago we'd been two or three down by now.

We are spending far more time fannying about at the back than attacking.

DA needs to do something at half time

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Should have pushed the boat out to get Danny Cowley.

Buffoon

Problem we've got, and it was the same at Newport. There's absolotely nothing into Rose. He must have had about 10 touches. Nobody anywhere near him to even try and create something, Hunt isn't in the game and Eisa is giving them the ball back 9 times out of 10. When we play through the press and get numbers upfield we cause them problems.

Very lucky not to be behind by at least one goal so far. We are incredibly naive at the back and playing  football in places where and when it's simply not sensible to do so. Have looked decent going forward at times but it's very clear that it's a work in progress.

Harrogate looking alot better at the moment and town far too predictable

Jesus wept!  Time someone else took the corners.

Embarrassingly poor corner "routines." What are they actually trying to do? 🙄

We’ve had what, 6/7 corners this half and they’ve all been terrible and predictable. The fact that we’ve made absolutely nothing of this is why we’re not winning.

Fuc off with those corners

Absolute excrement.

All our corners have been rubbish so far, whatever they had done in training is not working, 2 hands 1 hand so try no hands!

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Problem we've got, and it was the same at Newport. There's absolotely nothing into Rose. He must have had about 10 touches. Nobody anywhere near him to even try and create something, Hunt isn't in the game and Eisa is giving them the ball back 9 times out of 10. When we play through the press and get numbers upfield we cause them problems.

Good points.  What peed me off when Rose did get put through he should have let it roll across his body and hit it with his left.  Instead, he came inside.  Still.  It's easy for me to say that from the safety of my sofa.  FFS

This is crap

And now we’re losing. Really pi$$ poor.

1-0 Harrogate and rightly so, embarrassing corner routine that leads to them going up the other end and scoring. I'm all for innovation but the idea of lunacy is trying the same things and expecting different results. We've had 7 corners and been hit on the break on most of them.

It’s been coming . They’ve done a job on us today

There you go.  A dangerous corner. Not faffing about with short corners.

1 down and sorry to say they deserved it

Sort it out Artells

Get Hunt off. And get one of these hopeless centre backs off

Worst half of the season. Truly awful. Do people really think Mullarkey is better than Efete?

Some observations; Maher and Rodgers are "not" ball playing defenders and it will be interesting to see if we sign a couple during the transfer window.

Harrogate look a tidy little side who are better at pressing us than we are at playing out from the back.

Who sets up our atrocious corner routines.........appalling !

Worst half of the season absolutely embarrassing for professional footballers

Worst performance of the season so far?

Quoted from Plankton

Absolute excrement.

Yep, spending far too much time pissing around at the back, and poorly taken corners

Love watching us getting outplayed on our own pitch by fooking Harrogate.

Today, we are different kind of awful. Trying to be the Man City of league 2 and failing spectacularly.

Goall been coming all half.

The worst thing is, the wind is blowing towards the osmond. Lift it in and stick it on the keeper and let the wind play havoc. Hunt and Eisa off, Holohan and Pyke on.

A very simplistic overview of the first half is this..............................They are better than us !!!!!!!!

Holohan for Hunt please.

Eisa got a decent centre but there were no black 'n' white shirts in there. About twenty blue ones though.

As the half went on it looked like they had better players in almost every position. They've done a job on us and it will be interesting to see what Artell does to improve it.

Tiktok Toby having another dreadful performance where he can't defend or cross a ball. We urgently need massive upgrades at CB and RB in January.

Defence looking all over the place, Maher scares me with his habit of putting his keeper under pressure for no reason whenever he has the ball in his own box. I'm not sure what this corner routine is supposed to be, they clearly have it scouted but we persist, why? Goal kick routine is the same, what is this little pass about to achieve what could be done in one kick?

We looked threatening at times earlier but again lacked a quality ball and we won tons of corners only to waste them, we are behind at half-time and they only have themselves to blame. Outplayed in the half and looking out of ideas playing ping pong at the back.

We created nothing at home against a team just above us

Couldn't go today but watching it, it's bad , everyones first touch seems off . Cartwright has done well a couple of very good saves .

Big second half required or Big D will be getting his first Main Stand Regulars send off in 45 minutes .

Good first 10 mins, excrement the next 35.

Its very simple what they're doing. Muldoon drops in deep and 1 of two things happens. Both our CBs mark the same striker, Arthur comes inside to pick him up, Maularky is pulled inside by the winger and the leftback is open for the overlap or Arthur doesn't go and pick up Muldoon and they have a free man in thenl middle who draws people out of position.

Hope it turns out to be a classic game of two halves.

Harrogate have been excellent to be fair to them.

Come on Town!.  I went to watch Ho Chi Minh City last night and that was urine poor. Only highlight was this quality own goal from the half way line.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=336703032629225

Unfortunately, the passing from our defenders has been rubbish in general and the movement from our midfielders has been terrible in general. Hunt has lost possession 75% of the time he has received the ball (as has Eisa), Conteh is jogging around neither defending or attacking and only Gnahoua looks like he is able to keep hold of the ball.

What do you do when half the team is playing crap?

I've seen some bad corners in my time, but rarely so many of them from the same player on the same side and in the same half.

Quoted from Maringer

Unfortunately, the passing from our defenders has been rubbish in general and the movement from our midfielders has been terrible in general. Hunt has lost possession 75% of the time he has received the ball (as has Eisa), Conteh is jogging around neither defending or attacking and only Gnahoua looks like he is able to keep hold of the ball.

What do you do when half the team is playing crap?

I've seen some bad corners in my time, but rarely so many of them from the same player on the same side and in the same half.

All i can think is get Pyke on.

Don't worry. -  Holohan  Pyke and Green will be on soon.-

Please make this a good corner.

Quoted from chaos33

Please make this a good corner.

;D ;D

Jesus Christ. These corners

For the sake of the sweet f***ing lord!!!!! It’s not that difficult!!!😫

Artell trying to be too clever? I think he mentioned when he came about Notts County being the most successful team from short corners in the division. There is a time and a place, today we look so amateurish doing it.

Quoted from GtfcGarner

Artell trying to be too clever? I think he mentioned when he came about Notts County being the most successful team from short corners in the division. There is a time and a place, today we look so amateurish doing it.

Well no, because we've had success with it and there's reasons to try it, See Eisas goal against Crewe for example. Today it's just Glennon and Hunt both being unable to deliver a decent set piece. Can't blame Artell for Alex Hunt trying to take on his man and losing the ball, or scuffing the ball straight to a Harrogate player.

Definition of madness is doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.

It’s not working today so needs more work on the training ground to get it right.

I'm sorry.. but JT's scratchy whiny moaning negative commentary is getting worse.. Bad enough watching this without having it drummed home every second..

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Well no, because we've had success with it and there's reasons to try it, See Eisas goal against Crewe for example. Today it's just Glennon and Hunt both being unable to deliver a decent set piece. Can't blame Artell for Alex Hunt trying to take on his man and losing the ball, or scuffing the ball straight to a Harrogate player.

Well you can if the lads can't do what Artell wants. You need to work with the team you have

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Well no, because we've had success with it and there's reasons to try it, See Eisas goal against Crewe for example. Today it's just Glennon and Hunt both being unable to deliver a decent set piece. Can't blame Artell for Alex Hunt trying to take on his man and losing the ball, or scuffing the ball straight to a Harrogate player.

Yet Harrogate scored from their second corner when hit straight into the 6 yard area.

Quoted from Bigdog

I'm sorry.. but JT's whiny moaning negative commentary is getting worse.. Bad enough watching this without having it drummed home every second..

What do you expect? This is a pile of excrement.

Quoted from Plankton

Well you can if the lads can't do what Artell wants. You need to work with the team you have

Well they've shown they can do it, we've done it in every game he's been here and only today has it been this bad. Players have to take responbility and work out among themselves that it's not working, DA isn't at the corner flag with them telling them what to do.

Quoted from Bigdog

I'm sorry.. but JT's scratchy whiny moaning negative commentary is getting worse.. Bad enough watching this without having it drummed home every second..

I agree, he comes out with some right rubbish at times.

Whys he taken our best player off?

Quoted from Bigdog

I'm sorry.. but JT's scratchy whiny moaning negative commentary is getting worse.. Bad enough watching this without having it drummed home every second..

It's awful to watch, I'm not sure what you want him to do?

Blatant time wasting by them already, boils my pi$$.

Quoted from 123614

I agree, he comes out with some right rubbish at times.

He should remember he's a commentator. He's becoming the constantly moaning negative know it all fan we all dread sitting next to..his voice is so grating when he's in this mood..

The reason our defence is so bad is because the midfield stinks 💩

Playing out the back just doesn't work, we might as well just kick it into touch.

0-2

Quoted from Bigdog

He should remember he's a commentator. He's becoming the constantly moaning negative know it all fan we all dread sitting next to..

Him and Crofty make quite a pair, negative even when we are doing well., constantly siding with decisions against us.

Thats the bubble burst

Oh well the Honeymoons over.

0-2 urine poor. Quite possibly the worst performance of the season. Shite.

In the words of Artell....."Meh"

Better than us all over the park.

Why are we still playing Clifton in central midfield.. He is absolutely male masturbation and has no awareness and has just spent the last five minutes giving the ball away because he doesn't understand where the danger is until they finally took the invitation and scored. He's a liability unless played out wide where he can see what's happening in front of him at all times.

Terrible, terrible performance.

A performance like this from so many of these players so close to the window opening tells you all you need to know about the attitudes of some of them.

Get this lot in for Christmas Eve a full session of training on the fundamentals of defence, set pieces and passing because they don't understand any of this apparently. If you can't do your job then you don't get to spend time with your family having a nice rest.

This out from the back is pure nonsense.

A dismal game highlighted by a 2nd goal for them.

Looking like we need more than a couple of players in this window

Just when you think things are improving, Betty's bun factory come and give us a footballing lesson on our own patch !

Getting done at home by a tin pot mid table club.

This is our reality.  It’s sickening.

Quoted from RonMariner

Getting done at home by a tin pot mid table club.

This is our reality.  It’s sickening.

Grimsby has been shite for 17 of the past 20 years. We're about as tin pot as it gets nowadays.

You can't polish a turd. Artell's total football isn't working. The players don't have the skillset.

Quoted from RonMariner

Getting done at home by a tin pot mid table club.

This is our reality.  It’s sickening.

We are a tin pot mid table club at best, relegation fodder most of the time until we go down and we are one of the "bigger" clubs in non-league, though that's changing as bigger clubs are falling down the leagues.

[quote=137776]You can't polish a turd. Artell's total football isn't working. The players don't have the skillset. [/

Looks like the honeymoon is over then,

The worst thing is, I reckon our youth lads are better than our first team. I've had more enjoyment watching them play this season than our first 11.

Quoted from RonMariner

[quote=137776]You can't polish a turd. Artell's total football isn't working. The players don't have the skillset. [/

Looks like the honeymoon is over then,

Trying to be to clever. Over and out the job begins now

Quoted from Mayaman

You can't polish a turd. Artell's total football isn't working. The players don't have the skillset.

His first choice eleven probably just about do but teams now know how they set up and by being physical with their pressing as Harrogate and Newport have they mostly nullify it.

What I don't understand is why after technical players like Conteh, Gnahoua and Hunt go off we continue to play in the same manner with a side full of technically inept players who struggle to play pass and move football, and in Mullarkey's case can't even cross a ball. We should have just reverted tactics entirely and started going direct, it would at least give them something different to think about.

I don't remember the last time I sat through a more inept performance. They look like a team of amateurs that was thrown together that had one training session to play in a charity game. Clumsy, confused, unable to kick a football....

When does the transfer window open? Can’t come soon enough. We need players that can at least master the basics.

Artell Out!!

Harrogate have defended well.

It's bad enough watching it on the box , feel for everyone at BP - I'm not sure whether it's a one off or something more worrying we were excellent against Morecambe , Crewe and at MK so so against Newport .

But today it's been dross no two ways about it Harrogate's young lad on the left looks a player better than any winger we have ; maybe it's a one off or he is a very good player.

Good job some of Harrogates best players are missing. Could have been even more embarrassing, if that is possible.

Green gets us a goal 1 2

Seen enough, going to have a drink. I'll toast to all the poor souls who paid to sit and watch that rubbish, here's to the next game bringing a much improved performance.

Effette has done more in his 5 minutes than the rest of the shite in 90

Have I just seen Abo Eisa voted MOTM? May aswell of not turned up today he's done f☼ck all.

Quoted from GtfcGarner

Have I just seen Abo Eisa voted MOTM? May aswell of not turned up today he's done f☼ck all.

I'd give it to Harry and that ain't saying much.  Green possibly for having a shot when there was nothing on.

Complete and utter rubbish, get them in on Christmas eve and Christmas day, they don't deserve any time off.

After that pathetic performance they would be in Xmas eve and Xmas day they deserve it ! I really hope they are in Xmas day utter embarrassment

I was thinking today was the day we could stop looking over our shoulder to the drop zone.

But no. There is much work to do.

A lot of these players won’t be here next season

Quoted from DB

Complete and utter rubbish, get them in on Christmas eve and Christmas day, they don't deserve any time off.

Absurd. It's only a game of football. Christmas is the time for family. Deprive kids of their Dads over Xmas because DB is upset you lost a game? You sound delightful. Besides, you want them completely knackered for Boxing Day?

Think we still lack a bit of strength and mobility in heavy conditions against workmanlike sides. The manager won't change his principles, so it looks like he'll be changing a few players over the next couple of windows..

Terrible performance worst in years
That is a relegation performance

We certainly came crashing back down to earth

If there's one thing to take, it's that Efete should be starting against Mansfield. Physically he's more of a handful than Mullarkey, gives you an outball if your pinned in and better going forward imo.

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

A lot of these players won’t be here next season

Here's hoping

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

A lot of these players won’t be here next season

Yes - But a lot will \

ROSE - what has he got to do to get some decent passes or service, runs his heart out all game for very little reward.

Usual, lousy set pieces where even the commentators know which type of corner is coming in!

This passing around the back was sussed inside 10 minutes and we were closed down so effectively !

No Plan B ! Or.. is it the way to move players not capable out in January??

Passing, hit the ball in front for players to keep running forward, not back tracking.

Not a good watch today !!3

The players are thick.  I get the playing out the back stuff but:

Players:  Mr Artell said. "play it out the back."
Fans: It ain't working
Players:  But Mr Artell said, "play it out the back".
Fans: It still ain't working.
Players but...
Players: Mr Artell said play the short convoluted corner.
Fans, JY, Crofty anybody else that is listening / watching / intuiting
Players but...

I blame myself for that performance, it’s my first game this season and I’ve always been a total jinx.
You’ll be happy to know I won’t be at Mansfield and might only get to one game on March or April .

I’m actually struggling to remember the last time I’ve seen them win at Blundell park 😫

DA will stick to his principles, but might become pragmatic for next three games till we get players in he needs.

Can’t afford to lose to Salford and Walsall.

Anything better than a one goal defeat at Mansfield will be a bonus.

Quoted from Bigdog

Absurd. It's only a game of football. Christmas is the time for family. Deprive kids of their Dads over Xmas because DB is upset you lost a game? You sound delightful. Besides, you want them completely knackered for Boxing Day?

The absurd thing is the way the FA plans fixtures at this time of year. Yes, they've done it for Donkey's years but it doesn't mean it's right. I said get them in not run the life out of them, show them the mistakes from today, a bit of light training in taking corners and one hell of a bollocking for dishing up sh!t like today's performance.

It's not the fact we lost but the manner in which we lost. Many people, like my late father, worked in a continuous process industry where the work was continuous with no breaks for any bank holiday. It was part of the job so he and hundreds more had to work Christmas if it was their shift, and it's still the same today in these industries.

Just admit today's performance was rubbish, the paying fans deserved better.

Another disappointing day in another disappointing season in another disappointing decade.

You could say I’m disappointed.

It’s depressing.

Quoted from GtfcGarner

Have I just seen Abo Eisa voted MOTM? May aswell of not turned up today he's done f☼ck all.

You have got to be joking, personally I would have played him on the bench and not brought him on.

Quoted from DB

The absurd thing is the way the FA plans fixtures at this time of year. Yes, they've done it for Donkey's years but it doesn't mean it's right. I said get them in not run the life out of them, show them the mistakes from today, a bit of light training in taking corners and one hell of a bollocking for dishing up sh!t like today's performance.

It's not the fact we lost but the manner in which we lost. Many people, like my late father, worked in a continuous process industry where the work was continuous with no breaks for any bank holiday. It was part of the job so he and hundreds more had to work Christmas if it was their shift, and it's still the same today in these industries.

Just admit today's performance was rubbish, the paying fans deserved better.

Same as me. And I wouldn't wish working over Xmas on anyone else, but that's me, and that's you I guess. All over a game of football, and you being that upset about it. Borderline sadism from a self-confessed happy go lucky kinda guy..

Quoted from Bigdog

Same as me. And I wouldn't wish working over Xmas on anyone else, but that's me, and that's you I guess. All ove a game of football, and you being that upset about it. Borderline sadism from a self-confessed happy go lucky kinda guy..

Chill out BigDog and have a good Christmas.

PS I didn't give you a red cross

Quoted from DB

Chill out BigDog and have a good Christmas.

PS I didn't give you a red cross

That's more like it. You too..

Now say the same to our players, even though they were shite today..

Quoted from Chrisblor

His first choice eleven probably just about do but teams now know how they set up and by being physical with their pressing as Harrogate and Newport have they mostly nullify it.

What I don't understand is why after technical players like Conteh, Gnahoua and Hunt go off we continue to play in the same manner with a side full of technically inept players who struggle to play pass and move football, and in Mullarkey's case can't even cross a ball. We should have just reverted tactics entirely and started going direct, it would at least give them something different to think about.

This is spot on for me. Just a glaring absence of method in both halves, and especially after the changes in the second half. To have that many corners and for all of them to be f***ing sh*t is really completely unacceptable for professional footballers. In reality, an easy win for Harrogate, which is a stark reminder that we are, as a squad, basically sub par in this league, and, what’s most disappointing, is that Artell was tactically defeated and outthought by Grayson. Comfortably.

Yes how to knock a thousand fans off the Walsall game in 90 minutes.

Quoted from Yoda

Yes how to knock a thousand fans off the Walsall game in 90 minutes.

Isn’t it past your bedtime?🥱

Quoted from chaos33

This is spot on for me. Just a glaring absence of method in both halves, and especially after the changes in the second half. To have that many corners and for all of them to be f***ing sh*t is really completely unacceptable for professional footballers. In reality, an easy win for Harrogate, which is a stark reminder that we are, as a squad, basically sub par in this league, and, what’s most disappointing, is that Artell was tactically defeated and outthought by Grayson. Comfortably.

Weaver*. Not Grayson

Quoted from chaos33

This is spot on for me. Just a glaring absence of method in both halves, and especially after the changes in the second half. To have that many corners and for all of them to be f***ing sh*t is really completely unacceptable for professional footballers. In reality, an easy win for Harrogate, which is a stark reminder that we are, as a squad, basically sub par in this league, and, what’s most disappointing, is that Artell was tactically defeated and outthought by Grayson. Comfortably.

I’m pretty sure the head coach will be doing something about that.

Quoted from Hagrid

Weaver*. Not Grayson

Of course - Weaver. You’re quite right.

Yes i cannot understand if the tactics are wrong surely you can still pass and take a decent corner.

The corner routine was an embarrassment