Subs  Cartwright, Eisa, Pyke, Khan, Gnhoua, Andrews, Hunt

Happy with that team. Town 6/1 today.

3-5-2. Might I be right in saying that that’s the formation with which Hurst has his best PPG record?

Town are the longest price of any L2 club today.
Looks like 5-3-2 so if we keep getting done easily behind our full backs then there’ll be anger no doubt.  Can’t really disagree with that. Bench looks decent. Expect us to lose, but really hoping for an improvement, obviously. And no more f*cking soft goals please!

Quoted from Poojah

3-5-2. Might I be right in saying that that’s the formation with which Hurst has his best PPG record?

It's the formation we were forced into and got out of our slump with if I remember right.

One day it would be lovely to go into a match feeling positive and full of expectation, rather than dreading kick off and fearing a drubbing
Come on boys, cheer me up

I'm glad he's tweaking the formation. Today is a big test and if we can put a decent performance in you never know.

Discreetly in the home end ..

Quoted from AdamHaddock

Discreetly in the home end ..

So when score do discreetly say it's lucky or       Come On Town Your Brilliant.

Decisions, decisions

Can’t complain with that selection

Quoted from buckstown

One day it would be lovely to go into a match feeling positive and full of expectation, rather than dreading kick off and fearing a drubbing
Come on boys, cheer me up

This is the best team he has picked for a long time and IT DOES make me feel positive and full of expectation

Maher in the warm up recognised the Young's peering out from my coat  ;D

Win today! :)

We may not win today, but that's a much more credible starting eleven..

Danny Rose on RH says they have not been playing badly the last few games. I beg to differ and a win today would be great.

Quoted from chaos33

Town are the longest price of any L2 club today.
Looks like 5-3-2 so if we keep getting done easily behind our full backs then there’ll be anger no doubt.  Can’t really disagree with that. Bench looks decent. Expect us to lose, but really hoping for an improvement, obviously. And no more f*cking soft goals please!

Let's hope the bookies are crying at the final whistle.

Quoted from GrimPol

Let's hope the bookies are crying at the final whistle.

Bookies never cry.

Mariners in good voice so far. We've looked threatening

But Stockport have a corner

Penno  ??)

Oh FFS

Never a penalty, shame there's no VAR

1  0 down

It looks a long way back from here.

Never in a million years is that a penalty

2-0

game over

This is bad.

We're going to get absolutely copulated here

2-0. We are fúcked. We’re into damage limitation territory already.

FFSx2

3:10. Game done. Turning off. FFS.

Horrific from Rogers

2  0 down and looking hopeless

Well I thought we might have put up a bit of a fight  :-/

We were doing ok until they got that penno

Good Bye Mr Hurst. Get your coat and clear your desk.
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OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFS

Quoted from chaos33

3:10. Game done. Turning off. FFS.

What stream have you got mate

Bye bye Hurst!

I thought the cricket was bad

Sorry Paul, it’s time

We’re flipping shite hahaha

What happened with the goals? Just out of interest 🙈

This Grimsby team is one of the worst sides in modern times. Something has seriously gone wrong here

Quoted from HerveJosse

I thought the cricket was bad

At this rate I don't think I'll bother putting the rugby on. And I fully expect all British drivers to dnf in the F1 too!

That's all me bets down

Make no bones about it, we’re in a relegation battle.

Quoted from Hagrid

What happened with the goals? Just out of interest 🙈

Maher bundled over the Stockport striker as ball was coming to feet for a pen.

Rodgers cocks up and played stockport player clean through on goal for easy finish

I knew we were gonna have a shite day but didn't expect to be 2 down this quickly.

So basically our players are doing better assists for the opposition than for our own strikers

That's because we are a relaxation standard team with a useless manager

Triple spanking day then - Town, England, England…

Just hope we somehow stay up that's all this season can give us

2 - 0 after 9 mins. that equates to 20 - 0 after 90 mins. C'mon Town 20 - 1  wouldn't be so bad

Can see Clifton getting sent-off unfortunately.

OK, I can't be arsed with this excrement.  

Quite how the new owners have mucked up the promotion and the vibes around the club and town is simply staggering.

Town’s playing style is the footballing equivalent of taking a spoon to a gunfight.

Quoted from promotion plaice

Can see Clifton getting sent-off unfortunately.

Just before his 1st talking to there was a horrible challenge from a Stockport player that got completely ignored. Just don’t get how the ref misses it.

Sound of Music on telly

I wish JT would stop going on about our "bright start." It was a couple of minutes of having an attack ffs

Conteh having a stinker so far, Efete charges down the right and looks up to find nobody in the middle.of their goal.

As I commented on another thread the opposition have pace and we don't, as confirmed by JT.

Before I sign out until next weekend, I genuinely believe our squad is as good if not better than the last couple of seasons. Problem is the tactics and formation plus the fact other teams have taken say 4 or 5 strides forward whereas we've taken 2 or 3 baby steps forward.

Anyway. Enjoy your weekend and half term if you're involved in it. I'll pop back on the fishy in a few days!

Quoted from Plankton

Quite how the new owners have mucked up the promotion and the vibes around the club and town is simply staggering.

Not sure how this is on the owners really.. though they do need to take action with the manager sooner rather than later I think.

Quoted from Plankton

Quite how the new owners have mucked up the promotion and the vibes around the club and town is simply staggering.

How on earth did you come to that conclusion?

Is Jason at left back and Andrew in centre midfield?

Think of the extra revenue generated by us playing our nearest rivals next season and the extra £5 scotch eggs we'll be selling to an osmand full of scunny fans.

They've that much space and time on the ball you'd have thought it was 9 against 11.

Mind you I suspect it'll actually be 10 soon as I can see Clifton getting another yellow.

Hurst out !!!!

Same old tactic from Eastwood, boot it high to Rose

Quoted from chicaneuk

Not sure how this is on the owners really.. though they do need to take action with the manager sooner rather than later I think.

I think his position is becoming untenable.

At the moment they’d be better then the current ones

We're not done at two-none.

Get the next goal and we're back in it.

Hope is not yet unlawful...

Town 2-0 down in 8 minutes, England 80-6 in 14 overs and someone says don't worry it's only a game!
Time for the Samaritans!

I'm going for a wee - tell me what happens

Quick turnaround with a game Tuesday, I suspect the manager will get Colchester to turn it around as it'll really upset the preparations.

Anything other than a win and I think it's inevitable.

Well, that was a good move by them nearly 3  0 but saved by Clifton. Why o why can't Town attack like that?

Stockport are rapid and their break is frightening. Unfortunately town look a team a league below.

Could be 3 or 4 now. What we're seeing is the threat actual pace creates. As others have said we are slow, slow players, slow passes, slow reactions.

I thought we were supposed to be buying power and pace ?

Someone forgot to put speed in the spreadsheet

Quoted from It Bites

I thought we were supposed to be buying power and pace ?

We ended up with Hale and Pace.

We need that lucky manager back ASAP.

Quoted from promotion plaice

We ended up with Hale and Pace.

Hahahaha this made me laugh harder than it should.

Ours wingers are arguably the strongest players we’ve recruited. Problem is now, we’ve been forced to play without them in the hope to concede less.

FFSx3 another pen

Quoted from 141269

How on earth did you come to that conclusion?

Is Jason at left back and Andrew in centre midfield?

Whose to blame? Where does the Buck stop?  If not the manager, then the owners. If not the owners, then there must be a sacrificial Tea Lady who we can sack, and problem solved.
We can, of course, blame the fans who either want too much or are not fan-ny enough (no rudey intended)

A miricle he missed. There is a football god ;D

God's a Mariner . Missed penno.

A bit of luck with that pen, perhaps things are looking up!

Quoted from HerveJosse

Someone forgot to put speed in the spreadsheet

…some of our players look like they could do with a dab of speed to perk them up a bit (*)


* obviously I’m not actually suggesting Doigy starts dealing out Class A’s at half-time. I’m really not.

Lucky manager back👍👍👍

Just heard a big old girl warming up her voice.

That's a lifeline town, grab hold of it

Has Wilson had a touch?

So for me think we have a few players that have been in a few relegation scraps and not done so well Rodgers, Mullarkey and Eastwood, other new players just lack confidence and that has crept in across the team Clifton is prime example and our LB with majority at the back it’s no wander we keep conceding.

Just need some luck and a result to go our way, would be great to come back from being behind to build that belief up again.

We are absolutely excrement.
Keep up this form we will again be relegated.

We need something realy special to pull anything out of this game.

Players have about as much fight as i do facial hair. flipping embarrssing

A second MIRICLE!

Half time subs ?   Cartwright, Eisa, Pyke, Khan, Gnhoua, Andrews, Hunt

God is a town fan

Quoted from out of town

Has Wilson had a touch?

Right on cue..

Wilson scores 2  1 down and in with a chance

Wilson get in! Come on Town there's still a game here

Good finish that

These players are flipping useless and sadly are a bunch of losers. The performances and results are their fault rather than Hurst’s, though clearly he’s copulated up on recruitment.

Hurst must be in line for Knighthood

I've just introduced the inhabitants of Krakow to the football genius that is Donovan Wilson. Come on you Mighty Mariners!

Quoted from out of town

Has Wilson had a touch?

He has now

How were only losing 2-1 I have no idea but we can't play worse Come on Town big second half you can win this

If we pull this one back we will see a massive turnaround, see PH point we have decent players just need that one bit of good fortune and we will kick on.

Somehow we’re just about still in this. Time for one of Hurst’s famous back to the wall pep talks, if ever there was one.

Good news is Wilson is currently averaging 2 goals per 90 minutes, so he’s due another if we can keep him on the pitch.

Great finish by Wilson.
Scores just as frankie dettori passes the post to win on his final ride in the UK

Quoted from davmariner

These players are flipping useless and sadly are a bunch of losers. The performances and results are their fault rather than Hurst’s, though clearly he’s copulated up on recruitment.

Another one who has no idea how recruitment works.

Great half Town - all that there is between us and the league leaders on a record winning run is a dodgy pen…

…it’s all about voter turnout, when it comes to a general election the people of Tamworth and Mid Beds will be back returning Tory MPs…

We just need the right PR spin and we’ll rise up the table again.

Quoted from golfer

2 - 0 after 9 mins. that equates to 20 - 0 after 90 mins. C'mon Town 20 - 1  wouldn't be so bad

Well we got the 1 you wanted

It’s the hope that kills you.

At 2-0 I was hoping for 6 or 7 & a P45.

Now I’m having visions of a 3-2 last minute turnaround.

Stockport will be the ones getting the rollicking at half time. Funny old game

Quoted from ska face

It’s the hope that kills you.

At 2-0 I was hoping for 6 or 7 & a P45.

Now I’m having visions of a 3-2 last minute turnaround.

What about a 6/7- 1?

Could have easily been 3-0 or more -0 at half time, but its 2-1 and hope.

Funny old game as a certain England striker used to say.

3rd miricle, a penalty. Almost identicle to the one they missed

Gav makes it 2-2

Town penalty

You know what, I take it back this team does have heart

Absolutely massive - this game could end up being huge for our season

Didn’t expect this but good stuff

I predicted this exact thing would happen but forgot to click post.

Never in doubt, never in doubt.

I feel like I need to have a word with myself. I should have learned to never write us off!

Well roger me with a moist cactus. Miracles do happen

Get in super gav

Gobsmacked by this. I genuinely didn’t see this comeback coming from this group of players at this moment in time, but credit’s where it’s due.

We absolutely have to take something from this now. Absolutely vital.

Hurst must have given them a right bollocking at half-time because we have started the 2nd half really well.

Town are playing well at the moment and look on top.

Quoted from promotion plaice

Hurst must have given them a right bollocking at half-time because we have started the 2nd half really well.

That’ll have been the speed

The players and staff will be grinding those teeth back over Saddleworth Moor

Regardless of the final result today I said it early. We have a decent squad. Formations make a big difference. If Wilson can stay fit him and Rose upfront will cause problems, especially with Cliftons energy behind. I just hope Hurst sticks with this formation moving forward.

Quoted from lukeo

Regardless of the final result today I said it early. We have a decent squad. Formations make a big difference. If Wilson can stay fit him and Rose upfront will cause problems, especially with Cliftons energy behind. I just hope Hurst sticks with this formation moving forward.

You also said you were logging off at 2-0 🤔

Quoted from golfer

Hurst must be in line for Knighthood

I don't like repeating myself

Town 9-1 to win with bet365

Chester 2-0 Scunny

Wilson off for Pyke

Khan for Holohan

Quoted from promotion plaice

Chester 2-0 Scunny

But they said they were going to pi$$ that league!!

FFSx4

Clifton own goal

Feck off

Another poor, preventable goal. We will not get anywhere for as long as we keep doing this.

3  2 down . Another goal conceded immediately after we make subs

Normal service resumed

intercourse fuckie intercourse

flipping Pyke comes on, which was unnecessary since Wilson looked absolutely fine after his knock, and immediately ruins our defensive line by running backwards about half an hour before the free kick was taken and plays everyone onside. Just brilliant Hurst, well done

It's the hope that kills you  :o

Quoted from Chrisblor

flipping Pyke comes on, which was unnecessary since Wilson looked absolutely fine after his knock, and immediately ruins our defensive line by running backwards about half an hour before the free kick was taken and plays everyone onside. Just brilliant Hurst, well done

Wilson hasn't started many (any?). If he doesn't look after him, and he aggravates, we are screwed. This one will be on Pyke, and as someone who played full back, he needs to do better.

Rodgers suspended for next match

Why does Hurst always make substitutions in the 70-somethingth minute.

The changes have ruined our shape

Quoted from chicaneuk

Why does Hurst always make substitutions in the 70-somethingth minute.

Mr Consistent

Quoted from chicaneuk

Why does Hurst always make substitutions in the 70-somethingth minute.

Probably when some are starting to flag after an intense 90. Our first 11 still is stronger than our subs, so taking off players is a risk.

Quoted from Dodorondon

Rodgers suspended for next match

Only his 4th booking to my knowledge.

Quoted from supertown

You also said you were logging off at 2-0 🤔

Assuming it was going to be embarrassing as I didn't want to log in to just see loads of negative posts saying the same thing over and over. For what it's worth I think we've done well today but yes I will log off for a few days if it becomes negative and toxic on here

Anybody know the away gate?

Dilemma here is - great fight back - but no points (unless something very welcome happens very shortly).
Can Town start on the front foot against Colchester and be successful ?

Quoted from Dodorondon

Rodgers suspended for next match

Good. He’s been shite recently.

Quoted from lukeo

Assuming it was going to be embarrassing as I didn't want to log in to just see loads of negative posts saying the same thing over and over. For what it's worth I think we've done well today but yes I will log off for a few days if it becomes negative and toxic on here

Oh for God's sake grow up

Eisa for Clifton whos probably had his best game for a while today

Quoted from DB

Anybody know the away gate?

No they didn't announce it, just the total attendance

Quoted from Chrisblor

No they didn't announce it, just the total attendance

Think they said 905

Quoted from Chrisblor

No they didn't announce it, just the total attendance

Thank You

Such a basic oversight that we don’t have a big man to launch it up to in the dying moments of the game like this. Eastwood can kick the ball about a million miles with almost zero effort, but it shouldn’t be Rose’s responsibility to win the flick ons.

Time for a change, I am afraid. We're in a relegation fight by the looks of it.

With or without Hurst, is it too early to say we are in a relegation battle this season  ?

Gave it a go but we're simply not good enough and every game we give away a stupid goal :'(

Quoted from Mappers

With or without Hurst, is it too early to say we are in a relegation battle this season  ?

Of course it is.

Well, that was a game that I expected us to lose and lose heavily, but that’s galling. We deserved something on the balance of play but you cannot consistently defend like that and expect to get away with it.

If there’s a positive, that system looked an improvement.

Beyond poor it’s just a joke

Like it or not we are in a relagation battle .And we need to start picking up points very quickley .

Quoted from Mappers

With or without Hurst, is it too early to say we are in a relegation battle this season  ?

We are looking a bit Hartlepool second season aren’t we. Didn’t they also have a decent cup run in their first season after promotion?

Quoted from Mappers

With or without Hurst, is it too early to say we are in a relegation battle this season  ?

4 points outside the relegation places and 2 of the 4 teams below us have a game in hand, believe me we are already in a relegation battle.

Another defeat by one goal, which most of them have been.

Fecking frustrating, but we are leaky as hell at the back. We can now score against good sides, but we can't keep 'em out. Bit of a switch around from previous iterations of a Hurst team.

Did better than I hoped.

Quoted from Poojah

Well, that was a game that I expected us to lose and lose heavily, but that’s galling. We deserved something on the balance of play but you cannot consistently defend like that and expect to get away with it.

If there’s a positive, that system looked an improvement.

Looked better but left us with no defenders on the bench. This season feels misjudged in so many ways.

Winning goal looked suspiciously offside?

Ultimately we seemed to struggle when Wilson and Holohan went off, still trying to figure out what Khan offers, looked leaky at the back, but was the Stockport goals offside ? Waa hard to tell, but the linesman that side seemed to be have a bit of a mare, along with a truly shocking ref....again.

Colchester in the bottom two now so Tuesday's game is a must win.

Can we do it ?

Of course we can don't give up hope yet .

Win and we are seven points better off than them. with better goal average.

Lose and we are only one point better off.

Take a buddy to the game and cheer the lads on .

Me old man messaged saying good fight shown but we just cannot keep the ball out the net. Tuesday is the last one, If we dont win, i think thats it for Paul. And im sure he probably knows himself

Looking at the next 5 games, i would want at least 9 pts or Hurst goes. Let's start with 3 pts on Tuesday and 2 up front.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Colchester in the bottom two now so Tuesday's game is a must win.

Can we do it ?

Of course we can don't give up hope yet .

Win and we are seven points better off than them. with better goal average.

Lose and we are only one point better off.

Take a buddy to the game and cheer the lads on .

"Take a buddy to the game and cheer the lads on"  I think I'll take my Teddy, I'll need some emotional support.

Watched on Mariners TV (as abroad)

Great effort to get back in it and boss the start of the 2nd half, but last 20 mins just a long punt with half the time nobody competing for the header.

Oh for a mobile “lump” like their 25 or even Wootton

Don’t know what’s happened to Rodgers, but decision making looking suspect and looks like he’s lost confidence in his own ability

Quoted from 123614

Of course it is.

It just feels like it is.

Quoted from DB

Anybody know the away gate?

Yeh, it's in the far corner near the Town fans   ;)

Quoted from Poojah

Such a basic oversight that we don’t have a big man to launch it up to in the dying moments of the game like this. Eastwood can kick the ball about a million miles with almost zero effort, but it shouldn’t be Rose’s responsibility to win the flick ons.

It's not just the dying moments of this game but every game.

Quoted from Hagrid

Me old man messaged saying good fight shown but we just cannot keep the ball out the net. Tuesday is the last one, If we dont win, i think thats it for Paul. And im sure he probably knows himself

Absolute madness. Narrow away defeat to hotshots and now manager has to win Tuesday or he's out.

902 Mariners supporters

Although a loss is never good it shows that Town are still up the big games,no shame in todays result

Quoted from Yarborough Vaults

Absolute madness. Narrow away defeat to hotshots and now manager has to win Tuesday or he's out.

But it's about the last several games where we lost, with nothing to show. 2-2 up against the league leaders and we failed to park the bus.Our defence is shot and howlers from various defenders costing us goals and points.

Quoted from Hagrid

Me old man messaged saying good fight shown but we just cannot keep the ball out the net. Tuesday is the last one, If we dont win, i think thats it for Paul. And im sure he probably knows himself

Today was always going to be a free hit - no sane board is going to sack a manager for losing away to the league leaders who had won their last 7 games, provided it was not an embarrassment.

There were crumbs of encouragement out there today that I didn’t see against Accrington. If, and it remains a big if, we can play with a system the players understand and we stop conceding amateurish goals then things may not be quite as bad as they look on the surface.

That said, a defeat on Tuesday, in front of a poor and toxic crowd, would have to be bordering on untenable territory.

Quoted from Poojah

Today was always going to be a free hit - no sane board is going to sack a manager for losing away to the league leaders who had won their last 7 games, provided it was not an embarrassment.

There were crumbs of encouragement out there today that I didn’t see against Accrington. If, and it remains a big if, we can play with a system the players understand and we stop conceding amateurish goals then things may not be quite as bad as they look on the surface.

That said, a defeat on Tuesday, in front of a poor and toxic crowd, would have to be bordering on untenable territory.

Anything but a win Tuesday followed by defeat at Doncaster will see a Halifax like backlash from the fans.

Quoted from Yarborough Vaults

Absolute madness. Narrow away defeat to hotshots and now manager has to win Tuesday or he's out.

I dont think anyone is suggesting that PH should be sacked  purely for a narrow defeat at the league leaders,
more to the point is 3 wins in 18 games with an inability to protect points and a plummet down the league, i have nothing
against PH, but protecting the future of this club is more important than 1 man, the thought of falling out of the league
for a third time in a matter of a few years makes me feel physically sick.

Hurst on Humberside moaning about the officials claiming they were influenced by the home crowd (lol really?), saying we deserved something from that and that his subs had nothing to do with their winner. Nonsense, we defended poorly, Pyke messed up the defending for the winner by dropping deep far too early, we rarely troubled their keeper (who stupidly rushed miles out to clatter Clifton for our penalty) and the officials were rubbish for both sides. Don't forget they also missed a penalty at 2-0. Very tired of the excuses.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Hurst on Humberside moaning about the officials claiming they were influenced by the home crowd (lol really?), saying we deserved something from that and that his subs had nothing to do with their winner. Nonsense, we defended poorly, Pyke messed up the defending for the winner by dropping deep far too early, we rarely troubled their keeper (who stupidly rushed miles out to clatter Clifton for our penalty) and the officials were rubbish for both sides. Don't forget they also missed a penalty at 2-0. Very tired of the excuses.

The buck stops with Hurst on recruitment but a different manager is stuck with the same squad, which patently unbalanced and lacking depth. No defender on the bench, Hunt not trusted, Pyke not good enough as a third striker, three wide players but none have real pace. We failed to use the loan market in the last week of the window despite the injury to Wilson.

Disappointed with our sh1t defending (again) our decision making, quality and slowness of our passing, our lack of pace, our screaming lack of physical presence and strength at centre back and at centre forward, and embarrassed at the general quality of our crossing - especially from the same two or three, who are consistently cr•p at it.

I would add though…..to those few posting…’we’re in a relegation battle’; we’re not. Not yet. Nobody is in a relegation battle in October when the season ends in May and a window to come. That said…..our current league position is probably now reasonably regarded as an indication of our relative quality in this league. I can’t see anyone being satisfied with being 20th best out of 24; especially not with those glaring and costly sub par aspects listed above.
Got to win Tuesday.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Hurst on Humberside moaning about the officials claiming they were influenced by the home crowd (lol really?), saying we deserved something from that and that his subs had nothing to do with their winner. Nonsense, we defended poorly, Pyke messed up the defending for the winner by dropping deep far too early, we rarely troubled their keeper (who stupidly rushed miles out to clatter Clifton for our penalty) and the officials were rubbish for both sides. Don't forget they also missed a penalty at 2-0. Very tired of the excuses.

[quote=230]Hurst on Humberside moaning about the officials claiming they were influenced by the home crowd (lol really? They don't seem that influenced at BP

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

The buck stops with Hurst on recruitment but a different manager is stuck with the same squad, which patently unbalanced and lacking depth. No defender on the bench, Hunt not trusted, Pyke not good enough as a third striker, three wide players but none have real pace. We failed to use the loan market in the last week of the window despite the injury to Wilson.

Agree with most  of your points LM, but despite  the  'unbalance' of the squad it still has players  easily capable  of being top half
of the bottom EFL league, i just feel they are confused and frustrated by the  limited 'style' of play they are instructed to play,
with very limited ideas in  the final third, constant team changes  and players being seemingly frozen out, everything at the club just
seems worryingly so negative again, just as it did in our last relegation season.
I hope PH can turn this around, but to be honest  i worry he cannot.

I loved our fight back today to get to 2-2 but it hides the fact it should have been 3 or 4 nil by ht , some stupid mistakes every game

Left that feeling more hopeful than I expected after the opening 10 mins

Showed fight and urgency

Not saying all is rosy but that was, overall, a decent fight against the league leaders and we could have came away with a draw which I'd have taken before the match started... Their 3rd was never a foul and the resulting free kick, they were offside before it got bundled in.

I think the time has come and indeed passed for us to part ways with Hurst, it is still relatively early in the season but we should not delay any longer in making a decision and allowing freah ideas and an assement of the current squad by a incoming managment team before Christmas.

Time and time again we give away soft goals, which is odd given that the manager and all the coaching staff are former defenders.

In Wilson, Eisa and Rose we have players that can score quality goals, but it's no good if we can't keep a clean sheet. It needs sorting. quickly. Otherwise we will drop into the relegation dog fight pretty soon.  

We are in it now I'm sorry to say.

Quoted from chaos33

3:10. Game done. Turning off. FFS.

Toss,r

Quoted from golfer

We are in it now I'm sorry to say.

Lets see where we are in 7 months time!

Tuesday is critical. Anything other than a win and we are in trouble.

That said, I have seen Stockport fans saying that we are one of the best sides they have seen at home. The only away games I have seen were at Bradford and Wallsall and we looked really good in places in both games, though we didn't win either. So this team has potential. We have some good players. We just need to firm up at the back and we are overdue the rub of the green to turn our fortunes round.    

Quoted from MarinerWY

Left that feeling more hopeful than I expected after the opening 10 mins

Showed fight and urgency

Not saying all is rosy but that was, overall, a decent fight against the league leaders and we could have came away with a draw which I'd have taken before the match started... Their 3rd was never a foul and the resulting free kick, they were offside before it got bundled in.

The question is why can't we replicate it at will.?  Other teams would have been pushed aside by Town if they played like the last 60mins at Stocky, but we normally play like first 30 minutes, It's a mystery.

Quoted from 123614

Lets see where we are in 7 months time!

You have to explain that statement.

All a bit contrasting though isn’t it..didn’t we have the highest number of points lost after leading in games recently? And now it’s a case of go behind and we can’t overturn it..

Still maintain confidence and injuries/rotation are main factors..some self inflicted you could argue? Playing devils advocate you could argue we’ve been a bit unfortunate in Wilson being injured..as he does look like a striker who’ll cause problems..but counteract that with loss of form from a few, maybe some not performing as expected etc ??

Do genuinely think we have some players, not entirely convinced we have the better ‘team’ atm - guess there’s potential, but there’s also weakness.

Don’t think we’ll go down, could finish anywhere from 12th to 20th imho (that’s allowing for an improvement) - but I guess the question really is whether the ‘improvement’ that’s been asked for is enough, or indeed if it’s there at all?

Completely understand the calls for calm, back Hurst etc - as much as I completely understand those who want change and reasons why.  Don’t see them getting rid of Hurst personally but if it comes to Christmas and results are of a pattern like they have been - then I think it’s a situation those in charge can’t really ignore/trust it’ll change.

I'm starting to think regardless of manager, we'll need to change things in January. Hurst has been one to change things mid-season if it isn't working. I think he'll be wanting to bring in another CB, LB, and maybe CM or striker if Pyke hasn't fully found.

I don't think the left back situation was too predictable, but I think the CB shortage was an oversight, and the more we go on, the more apparent it is that maybe Waterfall isn't best placed to be our first choice backup.

Quoted from AncientExiledMariner

I'm starting to think regardless of manager, we'll need to change things in January. Hurst has been one to change things mid-season if it isn't working. I think he'll be wanting to bring in another CB, LB, and maybe CM or striker if Pyke hasn't fully found.

I don't think the left back situation was too predictable, but I think the CB shortage was an oversight, and the more we go on, the more apparent it is that maybe Waterfall isn't best placed to be our first choice backup.

Basically what you are saying is that he has drunk up the wall one of our biggest player budgets for years.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Basically what you are saying is that he has drunk up the wall one of our biggest player budgets for years.

None of the positions that Ancient suggests strengthening are as a result of ‘pïssing away’ funds in the summer transfer window.

For instance, we need a new LB because we didn’t sign anyone for there in the summer. That’s a different problem and has been well discussed on here, but it wasn’t the result of pïssing the budget up the wall.

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

None of the positions that Ancient suggests strengthening are as a result of ‘pïssing away’ funds in the summer transfer window.

For instance, we need a new LB because we didn’t sign anyone for there in the summer. That’s a different problem and has been well discussed on here, but it wasn’t the result of pïssing the budget up the wall.

We got exploited down the left almost every game last season. If the budget is basically spent, as has been suggested, then the budget has been drunk up the wall. Not to mention shortages up front, centre back and not sorting out CM which was obviously weak last season too.

We're short of quality and have no depth at all. Doesn't exactly scream big budget, so if is is then it's definitely been spunked away

Quoted from pen penfras

We got exploited down the left almost every game last season. If the budget is basically spent, as has been suggested, then the budget has been drunk up the wall. Not to mention shortages up front, centre back and not sorting out CM which was obviously weak last season too.

We're short of quality and have no depth at all. Doesn't exactly scream big budget, so if is is then it's definitely been spunked away

I don’t think we have spent all of the budget.

That’s why we tried to sign a LB on loan at the end of window. It was too late - a decision which was poor, I agree.

I also agree with you that we targeted and exploited down our left flank most of last season. Presumably, Hurst hoped that Glennon would improve with a full summer’s training. Based on the evidence so far, and the late move for a LB, that hasn’t happened.

Quoted from GrimPol

You have to explain that statement.

Seriously!  Are you still at primary school?