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Am I right in thinking that the issue with Diaz's goal yesterday was that the officials in VAR came to the conclusion that the goal should stand, but they didn't communicate this to the referee? Who when told check complete he went with the on field decision as he wasn't told by VAR to over rule it?

Staggeringly incompetent

Premier league problems, don’t think we will be worrying about that for a while

Quoted from Davec

Am I right in thinking that the issue with Diaz's goal yesterday was that the officials in VAR came to the conclusion that the goal should stand, but they didn't communicate this to the referee? Who when told check complete he went with the on field decision as he wasn't told by VAR to over rule it?

Staggeringly incompetent

They say that’s what happened but the caption came up ‘onside’ , surely the VAR issues that

It's just embarrassing. There are no excuses. But this was (and is) always going to happen.

As long as humans are operating technology, there will be human error.

To some degree, football society needs to accept that we'll never achieve 100% accuracy. It's no bad thing to aim for it, or at least improve what we have, but to also set realistic expectations.

I think the aim should be to get more of the big decisions right each season. It doesn't need to be more complicated than that. At the moment, it doesn't seem like that's the case, which will be a worry for Howard Webb and the rest of the football community.

VAR definitely means that more decisions are correct.

BUT it takes so much away from the excitement of the game, I think that has got to be looked at.

As for that farce yesterday the goal would've been ruled out without VAR, then people would be asking for it lol.

I prefer it how we have it tbh......

Didn't effect my FPL or Grimsby so I don't care. But it is a shambles!

VAR ...League 2 & Grimsby so far down the food chain does'nt affect our way of life.
Premier League to much telly time IMO.

The red card was very harsh as well. Looked bad in slow-mo or freeze-frame but it was just unfortunate that a tackle turned into a foul as he stood on the ball. It wasn't a dangerous high-speed lunge or at all malicious, but the VAR referees were just itching to give it. A pity that the on-pitch referees don't have the balls to stand by their original decisions more often. Goals have always been scored due to good or bad luck, but it doesn't help the game when players are sent off for bad luck. Wouldn't even have been a foul a few years ago, but they seem determined to ban tackling altogether.

Quoted from CSLM

VAR definitely means that more decisions are correct.

BUT it takes so much away from the excitement of the game, I think that has got to be looked at.

As for that farce yesterday the goal would've been ruled out without VAR, then people would be asking for it lol.

I prefer it how we have it tbh......

Not sure about that , the linesman puts his flag up as a matter of course these days, it’s the easy option knowing it will be checked

Quoted from Maringer

The red card was very harsh as well. Looked bad in slow-mo or freeze-frame but it was just unfortunate that a tackle turned into a foul as he stood on the ball. It wasn't a dangerous high-speed lunge or at all malicious, but the VAR referees were just itching to give it. A pity that the on-pitch referees don't have the balls to stand by their original decisions more often. Goals have always been scored due to good or bad luck, but it doesn't help the game when players are sent off for bad luck. Wouldn't even have been a foul a few years ago, but they seem determined to ban tackling altogether.

As was the first yellow for Jota, he didn’t touch him

Quoted from The Caterham Mariner

VAR ...League 2 & Grimsby so far down the food chain does'nt affect our way of life.
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People have short memories sometimes.
Crystal Palace and Southampton cup matches spring to mind !!

Quoted from supertown

As was the first yellow for Jota, he didn’t touch him

I haven't seen the first yellow card, but where in the rules does it say there has to be contact for it to be a yellow card?

And I have no sympathy whatsoever for him because whether the first card was fair or not Jota knew he was on a card and the second yellow card was a nasty challenge and deserved a card.

Quoted from promotion plaice

I'm all for VAR but what a shambles yesterday when Luis Diaz had a perfectly good goal disallowed.

Klopp must be fuming.

If they didn't have VAR the goal would still have been disallowed and Klopp would still be crying about an injustice.

I can't understand how VAR got it so wrong though and the statements from Howard Webb don't explain how the wrong button was pressed.

Did the VAR look at it thinking the goal had been awarded and pressed "continue" thinking they didn't have to intervene. I mean you didn't even need lines to see it was a significant margin onside. That would make more sense than what the statement seemed to suggest as the decision was so quick that they clearly didn't draw lines before issuing their decision which they would have 100% had to do to overrule an on field decision for a standard offside ruling.

Oh and the Curtis Jones red card was 100% correct. It doesn't matter if he skimmed the top of the ball. Red card every day of the week..

Quoted from supertown

Not sure about that , the linesman puts his flag up as a matter of course these days, it’s the easy option knowing it will be checked

Surely that can be argued both ways?

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I haven't seen the first yellow card, but where in the rules does it say there has to be contact for it to be a yellow card?

And I have no sympathy whatsoever for him because whether the first card was fair or not Jota knew he was on a card and the second yellow card was a nasty challenge and deserved a card.

Like you say you haven’t seen it 🤷🏼‍♂️. He was running behind the player and he fell over his own feet . The ref thought it was jota catching him

I didn't see the second Jota yellow, but he was incredibly unlucky for the first. The opponent ran across in front of him, he didn't make an attempt to foul the player and I don't think there was even any contact. The referee just guessed he had tripped him.

Quoted from Maringer

I didn't see the second Jota yellow, but he was incredibly unlucky for the first. The opponent ran across in front of him, he didn't make an attempt to foul the player and I don't think there was even any contact. The referee just guessed he had tripped him.

The second was a yellow ,all day long that’s it . It wasn’t nasty at all, mis timed and silly but certainly not nasty

Quoted from supertown

Like you say you haven’t seen it 🤷🏼‍♂️. He was running behind the player and he fell over his own feet . The ref thought it was jota catching him

But like I said, he knew he was on a yellow card (whether justified or not) and then put in a tackle like the second one. Idiot (Jota not you).

Our old friend Darren England was the ref in charge of VAR. Seems he can't get a decision right even after watching several replays

Quoted from GollyGTFC

If they didn't have VAR the goal would still have been disallowed and Klopp would still be crying about an injustice.

I can't understand how VAR got it so wrong though and the statements from Howard Webb don't explain how the wrong button was pressed.

Did the VAR look at it thinking the goal had been awarded and pressed "continue" thinking they didn't have to intervene. I mean you didn't even need lines to see it was a significant margin onside. That would make more sense than what the statement seemed to suggest as the decision was so quick that they clearly didn't draw lines before issuing their decision which they would have 100% had to do to overrule an on field decision for a standard offside ruling.

Oh and the Curtis Jones red card was 100% correct. It doesn't matter if he skimmed the top of the ball. Red card every day of the week..

Confirmed: VAR thought the on field decision was to award the goal so didn’t think they had to intervene.

Quoted from mimma

Our old friend Darren England was the ref in charge of VAR. Seems he can't get a decision right even after watching several replays

He is useless how he ever got to be prem ref is beyond me the bar must be really set low, & now messing it up in the var room