yoda, denni, son of madeley, herve

have i missed anyone?

sounds like a really good win, but nothing from these 'anti-fans'

shameful

Awwww  its nice to be missed  and stalked it seems...  On holiday  but dont worry i will be back soon. Anyway not a bad win for once. But so far its keeping the rose tints happy to have won a game. See soon   Mwaaaah

Quoted from denni266

Awwww  its nice to be missed  and stalked it seems...  On holiday  but dont worry i will be back soon. Anyway not a bad win for once. But so far its keeping the rose tints happy to have won a game. See soon   Mwaaaah

Or look at it as only 1 defeat…

Quoted from denni266

Awwww  its nice to be missed  and stalked it seems...  On holiday  but dont worry i will be back soon. Anyway not a bad win for once. But so far its keeping the rose tints happy to have won a game. See soon   Mwaaaah

Hope it’s a long holiday somewhere that you enjoy.

Is rose tints the new happy clappers?

Must be. Equally dumb. Think it means ‘pragmatic people who understand and enjoy football’.

Same on every football forum always more pages for a loss than a win , dont get it myself but hey ho it takes more than us proper football fans to make the clock tick so to speak

He's just a troll.

Quoted from forza ivano

yoda, denni, son of madeley, herve

have i missed anyone?

sounds like a really good win, but nothing from these 'anti-fans'

shameful

Not missing, just busy after the game yesterday. All I saw was another game proving my point. When Hurst fights his base instincts not to defend from the 6-yard box and instead we attack, harass, and press other teams in this league we look like and are often the better team. Thats now Salford, moments in the Notts game, first 20 minutes of Mansfield, second half at Walsall, and now the Gillingham game all proving my point.

Switching to miserable fecker mode - injury now to Danny Rose or Eisa and what do we do…?

Actually probably switch to 5-4-1, but the bench would be very weak with attacking options.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Not missing, just busy after the game yesterday. All I saw was another game proving my point. When Hurst fights his base instincts not to defend from the 6-yard box and instead we attack, harass, and press other teams in this league we look like and are often the better team. Thats now Salford, moments in the Notts game, first 20 minutes of Mansfield, second half at Walsall, and now the Gillingham game all proving my point.

You do know that teams can’t spend the entire game attacking? That other teams are good and also have effective attacking players? That L2 is ultra competitive? That we don’t have a devine right to win every game?

I’m not sure you have a point. Or, if you do, that anyone who’s watched professional football for a while would be able to assign it any credibility. What is it - Hurst is too defensive? Right. No goals conceded at home. One of the better goal differences in the division. Only lost 1 game, and that was to the top team by 1 goal. Goals spread around the team. Top half after 6. 1 point off the play off positions. 3 off top 3. Yeah it’s just not working, whatever it is. Wish we were Tranmere. Or Doncaster….etc….

I don’t even consider them as fans. They never congratulate the team or the manager when we win, they just spout constant negativity and criticism towards the management and owners.

I thought yesterday was great, nobody had a bad game and we could’ve won by more
I guess I’m generally a “happy clapper” though I feel it’s more of being a “pragmatic clapper”

As many have commented, even in Lg2 the money situation is just sad and ridiculous, and though our new owners have committed a lot in regards of finance and improvements to the club they are not mega wealthy compared to some (though they do have the club in their blood, and not sure you can put a value on that)

Back to the game, I was still nervously watching the scoreboard from 60 mins onwards as, despite being well in control, you never know what can happen, couple of mistakes, awful ref decision etc. (though should say I thought the ref yesterday was good, and I liked the way he talked calmly to the players to explain his decisions)

A very enjoyable day, and how often can you watch football in shorts at BP? (I did have my jeans in the car of course just in case 😉)

Quoted from chaos33

You do know that teams can’t spend the entire game attacking?

Man City would suggest otherwise and whilst I will concede we are not Man City, attacking doesn't just mean having a go at their goal.

What I've always said is we attack the opposition's position when they're in possession, don't let them pass the ball as they want, press and harass them, and force their hand. We all know it's rare to find a CB in this division who's composed with the ball at their feet. Notts is the perfect example of that. When we did press their CBs they just pointlessly hoofed the ball as they weren't composed enough to pick out the man on the wing as they were when we sat back, Mansfield did the same to us in the Cup game and the second half of the second game they forced us to hurry and our passing (which isn't great anyway) fell to excrement. If you put pressure on most teams in this division top of the table, bottom of it it doesn't matter you will force them to make errors, or we can do what Hurst likes to do and let teams pick out their passes and wonder why we let teams back into games.

Quoted from chaos33

That we don’t have a devine right to win every game?

Obviously some games teams are just going to be better than us, individual errors happen (Walsall), and you will just lose games sometimes don't see an issue with that. My point has always been in these games we failed to win and lost so far have all come from Hurst setting us up to fail.

Quoted from chaos33

Only lost 1 game

I think you'll find it's more like 3 wins dropped from winning positions after either Hurst started with his negative 10 men in the 6-yard box or finished in the same manner. We've won the two games we attacked for 90 minutes in my argument is clearly made by the results. Heck Hurst almost won me over last time we were in the conference, we played high-pressing attack football most of that season, I thought he'd seen the light, then last season happened and it was a return to Hurst ball.

Quoted from MANCMARINER

I don’t even consider them as fans. They never congratulate the team or the manager when we win, they just spout constant negativity and criticism towards the management and owners.

Dont give a monkeys left one what you think If your happy with dull defencive football thats ok with me . But dont say i am not a fan . I grew up under the old lights ,Helped put bolts and things in bags ready to be pulled up the ones we have now . Played kick ball in the ground nearly every day with players like Charli wright Jimmy pennington  Graham Taylor etc. Junior club member for years back in the 60s. Had more season tickets than i can remember. Seen it all and we are better as a club than where we are now. And if i dont like what i see i will say so and alwase have done. If pepole are happy with what is put in front of them thats ok with me but dont expect things to improve . This is a forum everyone thinks different  and has a right to do so. I am away on holiday not missing in action . Thanks for your comment tho

Quoted from MANCMARINER

I don’t even consider them as fans. They never congratulate the team or the manager when we win, they just spout constant negativity and criticism towards the management and owners.

Far from it, I'm often praising the players and ownership (and often get red crosses when I do what does that say about the fan base), I just don't see the rainbows shining out of Hurst's behind that most on here seem to believe

Quoted from denni266

Awwww  its nice to be missed  and stalked it seems...  On holiday  but dont worry i will be back soon. Anyway not a bad win for once. But so far its keeping the rose tints happy to have won a game. See soon   Mwaaaah

Jesus. I dread to think what you get up to on holiday.

Days 1 and 2 - lock yourself in your travel tavern, with GB News on loop, plucking out pubes. Store the little curlies in a mini leather coin pouch.

Days 3-7 - terrorise local hoteliers and restaurateurs by dipping into your pube pouch and sprinkling the little curlies into every dish and shower cubicle you can find. Moan and whine until you get a discount. Rinse (pluck, sprinkle), repeat.

Return home moaning the locals are dirty and don’t like it up ‘em.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Man City would suggest otherwise and whilst I will concede we are not Man City, attacking doesn't just mean having a go at their goal.

What I've always said is we attack the opposition's position when they're in possession, don't let them pass the ball as they want, press and harass them, and force their hand. We all know it's rare to find a CB in this division who's composed with the ball at their feet. Notts is the perfect example of that. When we did press their CBs they just pointlessly hoofed the ball as they weren't composed enough to pick out the man on the wing as they were when we sat back, Mansfield did the same to us in the Cup game and the second half of the second game they forced us to hurry and our passing (which isn't great anyway) fell to excrement. If you put pressure on most teams in this division top of the table, bottom of it it doesn't matter you will force them to make errors, or we can do what Hurst likes to do and let teams pick out their passes and wonder why we let teams back into games.



Obviously some games teams are just going to be better than us, individual errors happen (Walsall), and you will just lose games sometimes don't see an issue with that. My point has always been in these games we failed to win and lost so far have all come from Hurst setting us up to fail.



I think you'll find it's more like 3 wins dropped from winning positions after either Hurst started with his negative 10 men in the 6-yard box or finished in the same manner. We've won the two games we attacked for 90 minutes in my argument is clearly made by the results. Heck Hurst almost won me over last time we were in the conference, we played high-pressing attack football most of that season, I thought he'd seen the light, then last season happened and it was a return to Hurst ball.

You should be in the dugout Pep.

Quoted from denni266

Dont give a monkeys left one what you think If your happy with dull defencive football thats ok with me . But dont say i am not a fan . I grew up under the old lights ,Helped put bolts and things in bags ready to be pulled up the ones we have now . Played kick ball in the ground nearly every day with players like Charli wright Jimmy pennington  Graham Taylor etc. Junior club member for years back in the 60s. Had more season tickets than i can remember. Seen it all and we are better as a club than where we are now. And if i dont like what i see i will say so and alwase have done. If pepole are happy with what is put in front of them thats ok with me but dont expect things to improve . This is a forum everyone thinks different  and has a right to do so. I am away on holiday not missing in action . Thanks for your comment tho

I think you’re in danger of abusing the phrase ‘critical friend’ in that you place too much emphasis on the word critical.

Nothing is perfect nor is anything as imperfect as you claim. We’re a work in progress with several new players. I think we might have the best centre back pairing in the league, in Clifton and Rose we’ve got two of the hardest working players in the league and Conteh could arguably turn into a proper gold mine for us but we’re still going to hit bumps in the road.

I was frustrated by our lack of transfer activity on Friday and our lack of depth worries me but I’m glad we’re not chucking money at sub standard players. For the first time in a very long time, there’s no passengers in our squad and that’s very good news.

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

Jesus. I dread to think what you get up to on holiday.

Days 1 and 2 - lock yourself in your travel tavern, with GB News on loop, plucking out pubes. Store the little curlies in a mini leather coin pouch.

Days 3-7 - terrorise local hoteliers and restaurateurs by dipping into your pube pouch and sprinkling the little curlies into every dish and shower cubicle you can find. Moan and whine until you get a discount. Rinse (pluck, sprinkle), repeat.

Return home moaning the locals are dirty and don’t like it up ‘em.

I don't think this post is appropriate--- What Chaos gets up to on holiday is nobody else's business

Quoted from golfer

I don't think this post is appropriate--- What Chaos gets up to on holiday is nobody else's business

😂

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Far from it, I'm often praising the players and ownership (and often get red crosses when I do what does that say about the fan base), I just don't see the rainbows shining out of Hurst's behind that most on here seem to believe

No we don’t, we are realistic rather than just unrelentingly negative. And notice you were too busy to post a positive comment after the match yesterday and yet as soon as there is some criticism you are straight on writing lengthy posts to try and defend your negativity.

Quoted from MANCMARINER

No we don’t, we are realistic rather than just unrelentingly negative. And notice you were too busy to post a positive comment after the match yesterday and yet as soon as there is some criticism you are straight on writing lengthy posts to try and defend your negativity.

Whether it be football or whatever else in life, people who use the terms "snowflake", "rose tinted glasses", "happy clappers" or "woke" tend to be extremely fragile to criticism. Bless! But don't worry...they'll soon recover after the next defeat.

True

Great win for Town over the moon for a 90 minute performance for a change.
I do think it suits Hursts style playing a better side like the fa cup.
It’s when lesser teams come here and park the bus he struggles.
Now let’s see if we can back it up with another win.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Not missing, just busy after the game yesterday. All I saw was another game proving my point. When Hurst fights his base instincts not to defend from the 6-yard box and instead we attack, harass, and press other teams in this league we look like and are often the better team. Thats now Salford, moments in the Notts game, first 20 minutes of Mansfield, second half at Walsall, and now the Gillingham game all proving my point.

I reckon I’ve seen 100s of games where Paul Hurst has managed one of the teams and I can categorically say that at no point has he set them up to defend the six yard box from the start. Or ever in fact.

People on here seem entrenched in one camp or the other. Either they’re a “happy clapper” who will relentlessly look at the positives or they’re consistently negative who refuse to acknowledge anything good that the team/management/club do.

The real truth, as I’m sure we all know lies in the middle. Football, sport … hell life is more complicated, more nuanced than that. To coin a phrase perhaps that shouldn’t be used “it’s not black and white” (I mean it is black and white in our case isn’t it?).

But perhaps it’s a snapshot of our divided society where you have to draw a line and pick a side and never, ever deviate from that. … no matter what.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Not missing, just busy after the game yesterday. All I saw was another game proving my point. When Hurst fights his base instincts not to defend from the 6-yard box and instead we attack, harass, and press other teams in this league we look like and are often the better team. Thats now Salford, moments in the Notts game, first 20 minutes of Mansfield, second half at Walsall, and now the Gillingham game all proving my point.

Wow.

"Proving my point". ..being that you make grand self-important negative statements constantly, and appear to be lacking a Happiness gene, deriving zero enjoyment from following Town?

C'mon, cheer up. Life is short. Clap happily now and then.

There's a lot of self blinkered bullies on here, if opinion, agenda or a certain username isn't right  then bang your getting it both barrels! hard to believe we all support the same team, and always will do. Bit pathetic really all the bickering, some see black some see white it's human nature and your opinion is no more valid than there's

Quoted from Blundellite

There's a lot of self blinkered bullies on here, if opinion, agenda or a certain username isn't right  then bang your getting it both barrels! hard to believe we all support the same team, and always will do. Bit pathetic really all the bickering, some see black some see white it's human nature and your opinion is no more valid than there's

Then whats the point of a forum? Its hardly bullying either. The original poster made the rather valid point that you only see some on here waxing lyrical when we lose but hardly when we win. At the same token there are many valid posters who do both. Same as most forums i guess.
If you use constant tones like "Hurstball" or "the usual Hurst shitshow" on defeat because you dont like him then you are open to be challenged when your rather quiet when we win. I hardly call that bullying.

Quoted from darren9

People on here seem entrenched in one camp or the other. Either they’re a “happy clapper” who will relentlessly look at the positives or they’re consistently negative who refuse to acknowledge anything good that the team/management/club do.

Exactly!  If we had lost on Saturday, the same people raving about the win would have said "It's no disgrace losing to Gillingham, as they are top of the table".

Let's wait until we've played Bradford, Wrexham and Swindon before going OTT with praise or criticism.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Not missing, just busy after the game yesterday. All I saw was another game proving my point. When Hurst fights his base instincts not to defend from the 6-yard box and instead we attack, harass, and press other teams in this league we look like and are often the better team. Thats now Salford, moments in the Notts game, first 20 minutes of Mansfield, second half at Walsall, and now the Gillingham game all proving my point.

You really don't understand football at all do you .

Quoted from White_shorts

Exactly!  If we had lost on Saturday, the same people raving about the win would have said "It's no disgrace losing to Gillingham, as they are top of the table".

Let's wait until we've played Bradford, Wrexham and Swindon before going OTT with praise or criticism.

I think the point is more - let’s not go OTT with praise or criticism at all, but get some pragmatic sense of realism and perspective and fuse that with positivity and faith and patience.

I love a good moan after a defeat  , it’s part of my football experience. I’m usually over a defeat a couple of hours after a game unless it’s a disaster. I think it’s important not to take posts too seriously on here .

I also love a good moan after a defeat or stagnant draw BUT when I enjoy a win it makes all the pain and suffering worth it. I was fortunate enough to see Kerr and Buckley teams romp to victory at home more often than not and I still struggle to accept watching players unable to pass a ball 10yds or take a throw in or put a cross in .Towns 2nd goal v Gillingham was as good as anything from Kerr or Buckley teams so it's in there somewhere and I want more.Feed me Hurst

Quoted from chaos33

I think the point is more - let’s not go OTT with praise or criticism at all, but get some pragmatic sense of realism and perspective and fuse that with positivity and faith and patience.

Dreamer 😉

It's too early in the season to be overly excited or depressed.

We are only 6 points off relegation but as I like to have an optimistic outlook, if we had beaten Notts County, and we were in front twice in that game, we would be top of the league.

Quoted from Posh Harry

Dreamer 😉

🙂
I’m not saying that there isn’t a natural place for disappointment, criticism, anger etc. Totally there is. Its the OTT bit that, by definition, is daft/irritating.

Get the tin hats out, they'll be here soon

Quoted from buckstown

Get the tin hats out, they'll be here soon

We never left  ;)

We had 59% possession so we should OF won if Hurst was a better manager…

Quoted from buckstown

Get the tin hats out, they'll be here soon

Why so antagonistic? 🙂

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